lluubbeenn 188 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 ESR is a gamble and a lot depends on the transfer fee. If it is below 35m we should go for it. Just needs an extensive check over the injuries issue. Resell value will be there. He looked great at he u21s. Probably has some kind of relationship with Madueke and Colwill already and is versatile enough to cover 2-3 positions. If he is ok to come knowing he wont be part of the first 11 with everyone healthy as it stands and does not demand crazy wages I can see a great transfer for all parties. We can add the best bit, that if he bangs and Kai flops, we will have brilliant banter ammunition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 From what I’ve been seeing the Arse fans seem almost universally against selling ESR to us and feel like he should be playing more for them. Idk, man. There’s obviously a very talented player there and for a cut price he may be worth a punt. But it would be very underwhelming compared to Cherki or Kudus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 summer 2024 AMFs Florian Wirtz (if he stays healthy) Xavi Simons Eberechi Eze Dani Olmo Emile Smith Rowe (if not this window or January) Rayan Cherki Oihan Sancet Giovanni Reyna (so many injuries though) Enzo Le Fée Álex Baena U20 youth eligibles Eliesse Ben Seghir 18 Luka Sucic 20 Désiré Doué 18 Tommaso Baldanzi 20 Georgiy Sudakov 20 Arsen Zakharyan 20 Matheus França 19 cfccrost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pizy said: From what I’ve been seeing the Arse fans seem almost universally against selling ESR to us and feel like he should be playing more for them. Idk, man. There’s obviously a very talented player there and for a cut price he may be worth a punt. But it would be very underwhelming compared to Cherki or Kudus. Fans are always against selling their academy players, especially so to rivals. Doesn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 What is the price talk tho? can’t see them entertaining bids under 50m tbh. Young, English, HG, over 100gs experience, can play everywhere in midfield and attack plus has 3 years left in his contract. He basically is their mount but with a higher ceiling and we sold mase with 1y left for a hefty fee. his profile perfectly fits the intersection of what Pochettino wants (PL experience, ready to play, versatile attacker) and the boards overall strategy (young, big upside, hungry for titles) . Not the kind of player who lifts us to a new level but he offers something no one else in the squad does, esp with the injuries to nkunku and Carney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Like Mason he is massively overrated IMO due to where he has come from and the opportunities he has had to play for them. He is worse than Carney imo. Wouldn't take him unless it is for the loan army to try to flip him for money. We need to find a first teamer who can play behind the striker (as a SS or LAM) and at a pinch play as the striker. Smithe Rowe is just more of what we've already got, except worse and injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,673 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: What is the price talk tho? can’t see them entertaining bids under 50m tbh. Young, English, HG, over 100gs experience, can play everywhere in midfield and attack plus has 3 years left in his contract. He basically is their mount but with a higher ceiling and we sold mase with 1y left for a hefty fee. his profile perfectly fits the intersection of what Pochettino wants (PL experience, ready to play, versatile attacker) and the boards overall strategy (young, big upside, hungry for titles) . Not the kind of player who lifts us to a new level but he offers something no one else in the squad does, esp with the injuries to nkunku and Carney If we're willing to pay anywhere near that, we're actually crazy and Arsenal would be huge winners. To think Kudus was available for 40ish million... Mhsc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,584 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: What is the price talk tho? can’t see them entertaining bids under 50m tbh. Young, English, HG, over 100gs experience, can play everywhere in midfield and attack plus has 3 years left in his contract. He basically is their mount but with a higher ceiling and we sold mase with 1y left for a hefty fee. his profile perfectly fits the intersection of what Pochettino wants (PL experience, ready to play, versatile attacker) and the boards overall strategy (young, big upside, hungry for titles) . Not the kind of player who lifts us to a new level but he offers something no one else in the squad does, esp with the injuries to nkunku and Carney There is some things in common with Mount but Mount played 195 games for Chels to ESR 97 for Arse and MM played a major part in winning the European Cup,also 36 caps to ESR 3 caps and played in both major international tournaments so i'd say Mount has higher status in the game.also although it was poor when both players had their injury hit season last year Mount still played 35 games. We sold Mount because we didnt want to let him walk for free next summer.Arse want to sell because they need to for FFP. So all things considered,think the fee will be a lot less than 50m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Interesting how secret it is being kept. Wonder if its one of those where the selling club wants to make a signing first and we've got to wait and keep it quiet? In which case any rumour from the last weeks might suddenly just 'happen' one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Interesting how secret it is being kept. Wonder if its one of those where the selling club wants to make a signing first and we've got to wait and keep it quiet? In which case any rumour from the last weeks might suddenly just 'happen' one day. Romano is saying they simply haven't decided who to go for yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Artandur said: Romano is saying they simply haven't decided who to go for yet Don’t think there’s any chance that the club doesn’t know who they want yet. It’s surely that they don’t want a super public back and forth that would get other clubs in a bidding war or complicate negotiations. There’s no way with mere days to go in the window that we’re scrambling around in desperation behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,725 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vesper said: the new Caicedo Those are the type of buys we should have made instead of 100 million on a player. Well anyways Caicedo and Enzo where my dream pair so can't complain much. But in the future let this be the last and let's continue to focus on buying players like that. Edited August 29, 2023 by Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Fernando said: Those are the type of buys we should have made instead of 100 million on a player. Well anyways, Caicedo and Enzo where my dream pair, so can't complain much. But in the future let this be the last and let's continue to focus on buying players like that. Well, we bought Ugochukwu (and Santos) Vesper and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Artandur said: Romano is saying they simply haven't decided who to go for yet Romano wont actually know that though. IMO he is a mouth piece for agents who use him to shop around their players and ultimately to make money. There is no way PW, LS etc or people in their team are giving him info - then he would know WAY more. Whenever he isn't saying something quite concrete, it is just noise to get views that is likely to not turn out to be totally wrong or disprovable later. Hence, he does loads of posts saying kind of nothing, and then when an agent feeds him something more concrete he publishes that and ties it into whatever generic narrative he's been selling previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Romano wont actually know that though. IMO he is a mouth piece for agents who use him to shop around their players and ultimately to make money. There is no way PW, LS etc or people in their team are giving him info - then he would know WAY more. Whenever he isn't saying something quite concrete, it is just noise to get views that is likely to not turn out to be totally wrong or disprovable later. Hence, he does loads of posts saying kind of nothing, and then when an agent feeds him something more concrete he publishes that and ties it into whatever generic narrative he's been selling previously. Sure, i don't disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I would like to believe we have a plan and are working on a concrete deal, BUT I think the one more attacking player talk started when we lost Chuku to injury and Olise deal collapsed. To our disappointment I think the board lack an unanimous decision who to go for and are on the brink of entering deadline day in panic mode. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 LIVE Transfer Talk: Chelsea eye Raphinha-Torres double deal https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38279479/transfer-talk-Chelsea-eye-raphinha-torres-double-dea Chelsea are considering an approach for Barcelona stars Raphinha and Ferran Torres, according to the Daily Mail. Blues boss Mauricio Pochettino remains on the lookout for potential options that could strengthen his attack before the transfer deadline on Friday and appears set to open talks with the reigning LaLiga champions over a deal for the duo. Torres, 23, has scored in consecutive games to open Barca's season, but both his appearances have come from the bench with Poland international Robert Lewandowski preferred ahead of him. Raphinha didn't feature in Barca's 4-3 victory over Villarreal on Sunday, and the Stamford Bridge hierarchy are said to be engaged in talks over whether to make a move for the former Leeds United flyer. Recent reports have indicated that Barcelona would need to offload a player if they are to acquire Atletico Madrid's João Félix, while they are also looking to complete a transfer for Manchester City full-back João Cancelo. Chelsea are also busy in terms of outgoings amid discussions with Bayern Munich over a deal for 24-year-old defender Trevoh Chalobah. Sky Sports Deutschland's Florian Plettenberg reports that manager Thomas Tuchel -- who used to coach Chalobah at Chelsea -- is keen to land the 24-year-old, though there is some disagreement among members on the Bundesliga champions' transfer committee. Chalobah is yet to make an appearance in the Premier League this season and has previously been linked with a move to Inter Milan. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Vesper said: he would instantly be their 3rd best winger, IMHO, and with Dembele's injury record, plus Mbappe soon gone next summer his has a huge opportunity to be a key player Depends. Can’t see this summer to PSG being a good move for him at all. I mean Lee is there also and Asensio, throw in Mbappe and Dembele nailed on starters too with Ramos an option centrally. Looks very congested and daft for him to go to Paris. But think Campos behind the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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