Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Manchester United refuse to raise Mason Mount bid to focus on £80m Moises Caicedo exclusive https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/manchester-united-to-drop-mason-mount-bid-to-focus-on-moises-caicedo-nhnd00jfs Manchester United are focusing on other midfield targets, with Brighton & Hove Albion’s Moises Caicedo top of their list, after reaching an impasse in their attempts to sign Mason Mount. The decision to pursue other options was taken after Chelsea rejected their third offer for Mount, worth £55 million. Chelsea are insisting on £65 million, a price United consider unrealistic given that the player, 24, has only one year left on his contract. With negotiations having dragged on for a matter of weeks after Mount made clear his desire to swap Stamford Bridge for Old Trafford, United now want to move on to other business. As well as preparing a bid for Caicedo, they will also step up attempts to sign a new centre forward, with Atalanta’s Rasmus Hojlund and Eintracht Frankfurt’s Randal Kolo Muani the primary options being looked at. Ajax forward Mohammed Kudus is another who could come under consideration. Brighton are believed to value Caicedo at about £80 million — considerably more than the £58 million plus £7 million add-ons Chelsea are demanding for Mount — but United are prepared to take into account the Ecuadorean’s younger age (21) and radically different contract situation. He is effectively tied to Brighton until 2028, after agreeing a new four-year contract, with a further one-year option held by the club, in March. Caicedo is also being pursued by Chelsea and has admirers at Arsenal, but United have a longstanding interest in the player, have been maintaining a dialogue with his representatives while going for Mount and will now intensify efforts to explore a deal. There is sympathy at Old Trafford for Mount, with whom personal terms have been agreed, and who is greatly admired by United’s manager, Erik ten Hag. The offer of £55 million will be left on the table and there could still be room for a compromise with Chelsea, if the west London club are willing to enter talks about closing out a deal at around that mark. However, having pulled out of a pursuit of Harry Kane after the Tottenham Hotspur chairman, Daniel Levy, offered no encouragement he was prepared to sell Spurs’ talisman, United have already demonstrated a determination not to get involved in long chases for players when the potential selling club is not prepared to negotiate realistically. There is a belief at Old Trafford that Chelsea are trying to apply a “Manchester United tax” to the Mount deal. It has been noted there that Chelsea were willing to deal swiftly with Manchester City over Mateo Kovacic, and agreed to sell the Croatian World Cup semi-finalist for only £30 million. Set against that fee the asking price for Mount looks especially high, United believe. Though English players tend to move at a premium, especially in the Premier League, United see £55 million for Mount as a very strong offer compared with the £47.5 million Chelsea paid City for Raheem Sterling last summer — when he had one year left on his contract. Ten Hag is thought to be on board with the decision to switch midfield targets because United’s budget is limited by Financial Fair Play concerns and their high transfer outlay last summer. Despite being keen on Mount, the manager wants to use that budget efficiently and not overpay for players. Caicedo has been outstanding since joining Brighton from Independiente del Valle in 2021 and was the subject of a £70 million bid by Arsenal – rejected by Brighton – on deadline day in the January transfer window. Able to play in both defensive and attacking midfield roles, and at right back, he offers more positional flexibility than Mount, though a modest scoring record means he would not fit quite so well with one of Ten Hag’s desires which is for United to score more from midfield. Hojlund, 20, shot to prominence last season with nine goals in Serie A and six in six senior appearances for Denmark, scoring most recently in the Danes’ Euro 2024 qualifying draw in Slovenia last week. Kolo Muani, 24, scored 23 times for Eintracht Frankfurt last season and made important cameo appearances for France at the World Cup in Qatar, scoring 44 seconds after coming on as a substitute in their semi-final victory over Morocco. Edited June 25, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Chelsea lay down the law to Lukaku – €40m the key figure https://www.Chelsea-news.co/2023/06/Chelsea-lay-down-the-lay-to-lukaku-e40m-the-key-figure/ Saudi Arabian teams have been interested in signing Romelu Lukaku in recent weeks, and quite respectably he’s decided he wants to stay in Europe. In fact, more than that, he wants one thing – to play for Inter Milan again. The problem is, they can’t afford him. They had him on loan last season and Chelsea were happy to make it happen just to rid themselves of one major problem for the season. But loaning him out year after year only guarantees this issue returning every summer. Chelsea want a permanent solution, and according to today’s Gazzetta they’ve laid down the law to Lukaku, who is still trying to get his way. He can leave on a permanent deal for €40m. If that means going to AC Milan, Inter’s rivals and perhaps the only team out there currently thinking about paying that sum, so be it. Lukaku had his way last season, but he’s going to have to get very creative if he wants to get it again this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: Poll of the board: IF Nicolas Jackson is not going to be the main CF we buy this window, then between the two primary choices still on the board, which one do you prefer, and why? A: Lautaro Martínez B: Dušan Vlahović Note: Please do not put out names we simply are not going to pay the demanded price for, like Højlund (€100m) or Kolo Muani (€100m) or Osimhen (€180). Gonçalo Ramos (€80-90m) is likely in that category too, as he is too much of a risk for that type of cash IMHO. If we are talking €50-60m, then sure, he is a viable target. Ivan Toney is not an option (he maybe would have been my first choice, all things considered) atm due to his gambling ban. Really sucks, as next summer, we would be buying a player who turns 29yo in the winter of that season. This year was his last prime age (we would likely get 4 prime years) buying window for me. Finally, no, Kane, Mbappe (not even a true CF), and Julián Álvarez are NOT coming here, so let's end that silliness now. I'd rather save the money than spend on Martinez/Vlahovic, feel like both will be underwhelming in the Premier League. Better off spending that money on Caicedo + another midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 40m for Lukaku would be a bargain for a top Serie A team. In the right environment, he can be the best striker in the Italian league. bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Newcastle United not in for Dusan Vlahovic https://caughtoffside.substack.com/i/130881744/newcastle-united-not-in-for-dusan-vlahovic Despite working hard on the Italian market in recent times, one player Newcastle United are not currently looking at is Juventus striker Dusan Vlahovic. I don’t know if Eddie Howe appreciates the Serbian or not, but as of right now, there is nothing concrete to these links. All of Newcastle’s focus is on their deal to sign Sandro Tonali from AC Milan. The midfielder will be officially unveiled as a new Magpie in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Bayern Munich set to swoop for Mason Mount after Man Utd end transfer pursuit - and Thomas Tuchel could arrange reunion with Chelsea star for cut-price fee https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/bayern-munich-swoop-mason-mount-man-utd-end-pursuit-thomas-tuchel-reunion-cut-price-fee/bltda282e564a8c67e4 Bayern Munich are reportedly set to swoop for Mason Mount, after Manchester United's decision to end their pursuit of the Chelsea midfielder. Bayern ready to hijack Man Utd's move for Mount Manchester club could pull out of the race United now eyeing move for Caicedo WHAT HAPPENED? The Red Devils were the favourites to land the English international this summer but they have had three bids rejected by the Blues, the latest one being £50m plus £5m in add-ons. After the latest rejected bid, United have reportedly stepped back from Mount, as they feel that Chelsea's valuation of £65m for the player is too high. Manchester United's stance has alerted Bayern Munich, who are reportedly set to swoop in and sign the player for a reduced fee as the Blues could lower their demands for a foreign club, according to The Guardian. THE BIGGER PICTURE: Bayern boss Thomas Tuchel is reportedly keen on reuniting with Mount, who played some of his best football under the German coach during his time at Chelsea. Edited June 25, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Maybe Bayern trolls decided to bother United instead of us this time, but somehow I doubt they'd be keen to splash this kind of money for Chelsea player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Maybe Bayern trolls decided to bother United instead of us this time, but somehow I doubt they'd be keen to splash this kind of money for Chelsea player. 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: Bayern Munich, who are reportedly set to swoop in and sign the player for a reduced fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Mount ......... the boy who had a dream of Bavarian farmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 have to laugh at the dumb as a fucking rock press using 'Manure's hands are tied financially' to claim that is why they are refusing to go over 55m BUT then, in the next sentence, they claim, 'whelp, Manure is moving on to the 80 to 100m rated Caicedo' as a a replacement for Mount Norfolkblue1961, Reddish-Blue, Fernando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Poll of the board: IF Nicolas Jackson is not going to be the main CF we buy this window, then between the two primary choices still on the board, which one do you prefer, and why? A: Lautaro Martínez B: Dušan Vlahović Note: Please do not put out names we simply are not going to pay the demanded price for, like Højlund (€100m) or Kolo Muani (€100m) or Osimhen (€180). Gonçalo Ramos (€80-90m) is likely in that category too, as he is too much of a risk for that type of cash IMHO. If we are talking €50-60m, then sure, he is a viable target. Ivan Toney is not an option (he maybe would have been my first choice, all things considered) atm due to his gambling ban. Really sucks, as next summer, we would be buying a player who turns 29yo in the winter of that season. This year was his last prime age (we would likely get 4 prime years) buying window for me. Finally, no, Kane, Mbappe (not even a true CF), and Julián Álvarez are NOT coming here, so let's end that silliness now. Vlahovic bc more complete. Lautaro is a flat track bully but when the stakes are stakes are high he is absolutely useless and looks he forgot how to play football. But ideally just save the money. Trust the process with Nkunku and Jackson i think something like Caicedo————-Enzo madueke———-Nkunku———Sterling/mud ————————-Jackson ——— would be worth a try Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) more Raphinha bullshit from Spanish Barca asslickers https://www.caughtoffside.com/2023/05/19/newcastle-could-offer-e80-million-for-26-year-old-south-american-ace/ The 26-year-old has had a mixed season with the Spanish club and Barcelona prepared to cash in on him for the right price. A report from the Spanish publication Sport (h/t SportWitness) claims that Newcastle United are willing to spend €80 million on the Brazilian international. It seems that Barcelona are willing to accept the offer when it is presented. roflmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Edited June 25, 2023 by Vesper bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: But ideally just save the money I deffo tend to agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, Vesper said: But reduced from what? 🤪 From 75 we were trying to push, fine, but selling him below 50 would be quite ridiculous imo and 50 still doesn't smell like kind of money that Bayern likes to spend… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vegetable said: But reduced from what? 🤪 From 75 we were trying to push, fine, but selling him below 50 would be quite ridiculous imo and 50 still doesn't smell like kind of money that Bayern likes to spend… below £50m for sure would be funny if we took it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Vegetable said: But reduced from what? 🤪 From 75 we were trying to push, fine, but selling him below 50 would be quite ridiculous imo and 50 still doesn't smell like kind of money that Bayern likes to spend… I'd rather sell to Bayern for 45 than man utd for 70 Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 It’s unlikely Bayern are moving for mount there is absolutely no place for him to play there. He is not gonna be their no 10 before musiala, cm they are packed, and wings he is meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: It’s unlikely Bayern are moving for mount there is absolutely no place for him to play there. He is not gonna be their no 10 before musiala, cm they are packed, and wings he is meh. your basic facts are wrong these are their entire (from DMF to CMF to AMF) set of midfielders all FOUR of them, lolol, plus the so overrated Sabitzer coming back, who they REALLY want to dump and they are thinking about selling Gravenberch 6 Joshua Kimmich Defensive Midfield Feb 8, 1995 (28) €75.00m 8 Leon Goretzka Central Midfield Feb 6, 1995 (28) €45.00m 38 Ryan Gravenberch Central Midfield May 16, 2002 (21) €30.00m 42 Jamal Musiala Attacking Midfield Feb 26, 2003 (20) €110.00m coming back from loan Marcel Sabitzer Central Midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: your basic facts are wrong these are their entire (from DMF to CMF to AMF) set of midfielders all FOUR of them, lolol, plus the so overrated Sabitzer coming back, who they REALLY want to dump and they are thinking about selling Gravenberch 6 Joshua Kimmich Defensive Midfield Feb 8, 1995 (28) €75.00m 8 Leon Goretzka Central Midfield Feb 6, 1995 (28) €45.00m 38 Ryan Gravenberch Central Midfield May 16, 2002 (21) €30.00m 42 Jamal Musiala Attacking Midfield Feb 26, 2003 (20) €110.00m coming back from loan Marcel Sabitzer Central Midfield Not quite right. Müller is back up to Musiala but listed as SS on tm. That's why I think no.10 is out of the question. Then there is AMF talent Paul Wanner who will get more of a role next season. Then your forgot Laimer who is coming on a free. Not sure they are selling Gravenberch either. they usually play with a double pivot. So goretzka, kimmich and Laimer will be sharing the minutes there. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Just now, Magic Lamps said: Not quite right. Müller is back up to Musiala but listed as SS on tm. That's why I think no.10 is out of the question. Then there is AMF talent Paul Wanner who will get more of a role next season. Then your forgot Laimer who is coming on a free. Not sure they are selling Gravenberch either. they usually play with a double pivot. So goretzka, kimmich and Laimer will be sharing the minutes there. I am still not convinced that he would be frozen out there at all Konrad Laimer has meh written all over him as well, a typical free transfer who they never would have dropped real money on he was poor in most of the RB games I watched I hate Bayern, so I hope the cleverclogs choke on a bag of dicks don't give a tinker's that Tuchel is there, other than I do hope he demands Mount if the Manc's buying him is indeed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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