TheHulk 2,437 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, TheHulk said: just make it 45m to 50m euros (£39-43m) IF he blows up and becomes great at Inter, then for an HG CB, its fair market value for the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Clockwork said: I think someone like Diogo Costa is likely a GK we consider. I'm a little cautious. I like his characteristics as a player but bursting into tears over his near mistake at the world cup is a massive red flag for me. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Superblue 6,372 Posted June 21, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted June 21, 2023 Disappointed in the likes of Mount and Havertz who seem to be bailing on the club at the first sign of struggle. It's pretty clear that there is a longer term plot at the club to build a younger squad to grow and develop together, and in both circumstances they could have fallen into the bracket of still young and long term, but two of the more experienced players within the group that could have assumed more leadership and direction on the squad. The press briefings from both player's camps that they will not be signing new contracts whilst the club are in the middle of transfer negotiations is very poor in my opinion but unfortunately the way things are nowadays. I'm just glad the club is sticking to its guns with both players to get a valuation deemed acceptable and not take a feeling of being short changed. If we can get anything like £60m upwards for each then I think both will overall represent good deals for the club. On one hand I'd have had no problem keeping either within the squad next season, but on the other hand I don't believe either is a "game changer". They are completely different circumstances to the likes of Salah and De Bruyne who never got the opportunities here before both left. Mount and Havertz have had 4 and 3 years respectively in the Chelsea first team and whilst both have produced moments, neither has been able to find a consistency to their game and as a result, a regular and healthy output of an end product. If either goes on to be a bigger success somewhere else then so be it because I'm unsure if that would happen here. Ultimately both are part of a wider problem at the club in recent years of inconsistency which has prevented us getting anywhere near a title challenge lasting past Xmas. LAM09, Johnnyeye, Norfolkblue1961 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Superblue said: Disappointed in the likes of Mount and Havertz who seem to be bailing on the club at the first sign of struggle. It's pretty clear that there is a longer term plot at the club to build a younger squad to grow and develop together, and in both circumstances they could have fallen into the bracket of still young and long term, but two of the more experienced players within the group that could have assumed more leadership and direction on the squad. The press briefings from both player's camps that they will not be signing new contracts whilst the club are in the middle of transfer negotiations is very poor in my opinion but unfortunately the way things are nowadays. I'm just glad the club is sticking to its guns with both players to get a valuation deemed acceptable and not take a feeling of being short changed. If we can get anything like £60m upwards for each then I think both will overall represent good deals for the club. On one hand I'd have had no problem keeping either within the squad next season, but on the other hand I don't believe either is a "game changer". They are completely different circumstances to the likes of Salah and De Bruyne who never got the opportunities here before both left. Mount and Havertz have had 4 and 3 years respectively in the Chelsea first team and whilst both have produced moments, neither has been able to find a consistency to their game and as a result, a regular and healthy output of an end product. If either goes on to be a bigger success somewhere else then so be it because I'm unsure if that would happen here. Ultimately both are part of a wider problem at the club in recent years of inconsistency which has prevented us getting anywhere near a title challenge lasting past Xmas. While I mostly agree, I wonder how much fault the club has. It's easy for us to judge, but I for one learned (from former direct manager) to take action and not wait for things to happen to you as a professional. If you think things aren't working out, seek out asap... reach out to your contacts and work on it. You can always change your mind in case things turn around, but it gives you options. Yes, it can be different in football, because there are a lot of money to be made by people around the players and clubs. Agents love transfer fees and will push for them. I hardly think Mount thinks he's moving up that much to United atm. I think they are also in poor state as a club atm... I also think Mount has been more consistent than Kai. One can, and apparently one does, incessantly complain about things Mount cannot do as a footballer, but I think his game is pretty rounded. Kai is the one who goes from hero to nothing from game to game. Edited June 21, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Hope this is a joke. hell NO! I would take EVERY one of these over him (bold are actually doable) he is right footed (same as KK) as are all of these Rúben Dias Matthijs de Ligt Ronald Araújo (arrrrf, we cocked that one up, love him!) Éder Militão Marquinhos William Saliba Min-jae Kim Milan Skriniar (arrrrf, we cocked that one up, love him!) António Silva (downside is he has a €100m release clause and it's......... Benfica) Jurrien Timber Giorgio Scalvini Bremer Robin Le Normand José María Giménez (injuries though, and he is almost off my lists due to age) Jean-Clair Todibo Mohamed Simakan Adam Webster Nathan Collins Ilya Zabarnyi Malick Thiaw (MOTM for Germany) Taylor Harwood-Bellis then 3 maybes: Anel Ahmedhodzic (asshole for choosing Bosnia over Sweden for international footie, lololol) Merih Demiral Josip Sutalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Tomo said: I'm a little cautious. I like his characteristics as a player but bursting into tears over his near mistake at the world cup is a massive red flag for me. and his lack of height same height as Kepa (but longer arms) but I still rate him would rather Oblak or Mamar though but won't wet the bed if we bought hm Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I knew it was too good to be true. CUNT Johnnyeye, xPetrCechx and Norfolkblue1961 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 hours ago, bluesman2610 said: Or he could terminate his contract via mutual consent if he pays us £50m he can go Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Yeaaaaaa, NO poison dwarf swinging his tiny old todger once again Johnnyeye, ZAPHOD2319 and SinineUltra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,161 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Arteta is either a moron or a genius. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Getting £60-65m for Mount in the last year of his contract is INSANE. Even crazier than the £65-70m we’re getting for Havertz. Two players that weren’t even set to start for us and we’re going to receive ~ £120m combined for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, Vesper said: CUNT we kinda forget that Inter didn’t pick up the second year on Lukaku loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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