Vesper 31,105 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 44 minutes ago, TheHulk said: WTF We are CLOWNS if we think that Benfica would accept only making £38.5m or so profit on Enzo (€85m minus River Plate's 25% cut from their sell-on clause, and also minus the €18m Benfica paid in fees and add-ons, and minus half a year's salary they paid) I am RAPIDLY becoming disenchanted with Boehly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Yeah Boehly and Vivell looking like bellends. Stewart is next when his signing Badiashile is just Sarr reincarnated. Club is fucked. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Badiashile is just Sarr reincarnated. that is a real stretch m8 bookmark this one of us will perhaps (if we actually buy him) have to eat our words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The worst thing about all of this, is that Enzo WANTS the move. This isn’t like De Ligt, Dembele, or Raphinha where they were waiting for Bayern/Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: The worst thing about all of this, is that Enzo WANTS the move. This isn’t like De Ligt, Dembele, or Raphinha where they were waiting for Bayern/Barcelona. Wanted you mean, after this embarrassment he probably thinks we're a laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 United will get him with their Saudi owners 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Oh god im so ready for another year of Jorginho running around in the midfield looking like he has a parachute attached to him... 🤡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 fucking CLOWNS try to short stroke Benfica for €35-€42m after saying the would pay €120-127m then tossing out only €85m on official offer YET had no problem dumping €72m (£62m) on fucking CuCu and €40m (£33.4 at the time) on the turgid KK (AND PAY HIM almost £300K (295) PW which works out to 70m fucking euros just in salary over the next 4 years!!!!!) idiots!!!! Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,666 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 this was probably 85 millions now, and with later payments which would be more than the 120m release clause...idk why is everyone calling out boehly for this. reasonable offer instead of the crazy straight up 120 million. Mhsc and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Superblue said: In fairness 85m euros is a huge amount of money whichever way you look at it. It's not a stretch that the club's enquiries have been enough to bring Benfica to the table initially, but there's too much distance between the two. Sure 85M€ is definitely a lot of money but surely everyone knew that was never going to be enough to land Enzo Fernandez in a January transfer window so if the club weren't willing to go past that figure, why even bother in the first place? Now they went in with an offer well below the valuation of Benfica and after fucking around for a couple of weeks with no developments we're once again the laughing stock of the transfer market. I'd certainly not have had any issue if the club never went after Enzo in the first place and cited him as being too expensive but now that they did and were once again embarrassed in the market, this whole fiasco just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Edited January 4, 2023 by Jype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,725 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, whats happening said: this was probably 85 millions now, and with later payments which would be more than the 120m release clause...idk why is everyone calling out boehly for this. reasonable offer instead of the crazy straight up 120 million. I think this is more the case. Let's see what happens, because 85 million upfront and the other in parts was a good as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Boehly out. Potter out. We are a joke now. No club will want to deal with us. No player will want to come to us. There is no vision. There is no plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, whats happening said: this was probably 85 millions now, and with later payments which would be more than the 120m release clause...idk why is everyone calling out boehly for this. reasonable offer instead of the crazy straight up 120 million. that is NOT what I understand to have happened I thought that we had agreed to something simlar to what you said Quote this was probably 85 millions now, and with later payments which would be more than the 120m release clause. BUT apparently it is NOT what happened the €85m offer was the total, not the initial payment @FabrizioRomano Excl: Chelsea official proposal for Enzo Fernández was never €120m or €127m. The final proposal made to Benfica was €85m fee. Edited January 4, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 to be fair 85M is perfectly normal bid for enzo pay 130M it is too much for him, no matter how good he is its a lot of money and that is the type of signings that trasnformer the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Vesper said: that is NOT what I understand to have happened I thought that we had agreed to something simlar to what you said BUT apparently it is NOT what happened the €85m offer was the total, not the initial payment @FabrizioRomano Excl: Chelsea official proposal for Enzo Fernández was never €120m or €127m. The final proposal made to Benfica was €85m fee. Our fanbase getting completely delusional at this point because they can't comprehend that owner is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mário César said: to be fair 85M is perfectly normal bid for enzo pay 130M it is too much for him, no matter how good he is its a lot of money and that is the type of signings that trasnformer the market €85m (£74m) is only £12m more than we paid for a backup LB (CuCu) and I have never heard 130m euros (let alone pounds) that is 3m to 10m more than most reports said (and were apparently massively off the the other way in terms of what our actual off was) Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,239 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 127m was a ridiculous sum if money for a holding midfielder BUT we needed him that badly. Who the fuck are they going for now?? Who?? Enzo has it all... 😭😭😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, DDA said: 127m was a ridiculous sum if money for a holding midfielder BUT we needed him that badly. Who the fuck are they going for now?? Who?? Enzo has it all... 😭😭😭 We will still get him mkh and DDA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 45 minutes ago, whats happening said: this was probably 85 millions now, and with later payments which would be more than the 120m release clause...idk why is everyone calling out boehly for this. reasonable offer instead of the crazy straight up 120 million. The negotiation between Benfica and Chelsea got stuck. There was no agreement after 3 meetings. Chelsea did not arrive at the amount with which they had started the negotiation. There is no other meeting scheduled for the next few days -for now-. FUCKING CONFIRMATION that Benfica came at the table with one offer and after Chelsea tried to lowball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: that is NOT what I understand to have happened I thought that we had agreed to something simlar to what you said BUT apparently it is NOT what happened the €85m offer was the total, not the initial payment @FabrizioRomano Excl: Chelsea official proposal for Enzo Fernández was never €120m or €127m. The final proposal made to Benfica was €85m fee. Romano was one of these pushing a couple of days ago that we were in talks for the 120-127m figure and now he's saying that was never our proposal. Let's have it out, he has a big following and he seems to have developed a niche for being someone to get in first when a deal is essentially happening but there are also a lot of transfer rumours he puts out which either amount to nothing or are lacking any real detail that allows him to sidestep away if it's not happening. I don't blame him, it's his job and it's a lucrative job being able to feed that beast. But he like many others are fed most of their information by agents who are spinning their own narrative to suit their own clients and agendas. It's why so much transfer information on the internet is complete horseshit. We used to be able to rely on Matt Law a lot more as he seemingly had a source within the club but now with Roman out, he too is on the outer (even admitted it on a podcast that it's much more of a struggle getting information from out of Chelsea now). The one person out there that I feel comfortable with being 95% confident in is David Ornstein who seems to be first with a lot of exclusives, many of which haven't even been rumoured or reported, and he generally remains very coy on a number of 'hot' transfer rumours doing the rounds, probably because he knows many are complete bollocks. Although I haven't seen anything myself yet, from what it appears on Twitter his stance has always been that Chelsea were looking at Enzo but with a price in mind that wasn't as high as the release clause. I think, like usual, this transfer report has gone into overdrive and too many people are trying to push an exclusive to be the first rather than the actual reality of the situation. Now one thing that Boehly does have to learn because it was clearly an issue in the summer, is a lot of clubs/agents/media seem to be using us at present to feed the media narrative, which was nowhere near as clear and obvious under Roman/Marina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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