Vesper 30,164 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Speaking about pace, Lacroix is the fastest centre back in Bundesliga and ran the fastest 4th top speed last season with 35.8kmh. Imagine him and Rüdiger in our defence we probably could push the defensive 20 m into the opposition's half and still not get catch a counter attack lol If we cannot get Bastoni then I am in for Lacroix although I SO rate the monster that is Sven Botman too Imagine if in 3 years or so Mbuyamba comes good and Botman is playing with him 1.95m twin tanks Edited May 31, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Vesper said: If we cannot get Bastoni then I am in for Lacroix although I SO rate the monster that is Sven Botman too Imagine if in 3 years or so Mbuyamba comes good and Botman is playing with him 1.95m twin tanks They are both not exactly rapid are they? Currently I think pace is more important for CBs atm (esp in our playing style ) than a few cms more height. If i have to choose between a 1,90 defender with lightning pace and 1,95 one with decent pace, i woud always go for the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, Vesper said: Lukaku was a teen when we bought him, and we would be paying £50 to £60 MORE than what we sold him for for. All for only one full sub 30yo season. He turns 30 towards the end of the season after this coming season. I truly wonder whether the club will just go for Lukaku now, despite his age as you mentioned, and not being in it for Haaland next year when Haaland will provide a longer term of success (yes, I know there will be a lot of clubs in for him next summer but still). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jas said: I truly wonder whether the club will just go for Lukaku now, despite his age as you mentioned, and not being in it for Haaland next year when Haaland will provide a longer term of success (yes, I know there will be a lot of clubs in for him next summer but still). Haaland wouldn't be 'long term' either, Raiola will make sure of that. After all, the pizza man will need new agent commissions every few years.. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 - new ST ( Giroud leave , Abraham probably loan or permanent transfer ) - new backup GK ( Kepa probably will leave too , Caballero 3th choice is ok ) - CB if sold Zouma - maybe midfielder or winger if someone of CHO , Zieych leave - LB/LWB Backup if both Alonso and Emerson leave too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jype said: Haaland wouldn't be 'long term' either, Raiola will make sure of that. After all, the pizza man will need new agent commissions every few years.. Hard to disagree but it still screams long term more than with Lukaku. And who knows...if we can keep being successful with Haaland, maybe he'll stay for the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 368 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Jas said: Hard to disagree but it still screams long term more than with Lukaku. And who knows...if we can keep being successful with Haaland, maybe he'll stay for the long term. Even if he doesn't stay long term we will still get all our money back when he gets sold and reinvest in someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: They are both not exactly rapid are they? Currently I think pace is more important for CBs atm (esp in our playing style ) than a few cms more height. If i have to choose between a 1,90 defender with lightning pace and 1,95 one with decent pace, i woud always go for the former. They are both far from slow, but yes, not Lacroix FoN pace. Solution. Buy them both, as combined they would cost what Bastoni or Marquinhos or De Ligt would alone, lolol. Sell Zouma FFS. Tomori is likely sold. Sarr is not good enough, but was free, so will generate funds no matter what. Thiago Silva leaves after June 2022. I am not yet sold on Guehi. Certainly not sold at all on Ampadu as a CB. Azpi will be done in a couple years or so. Mbuyamba is so not a guaranteed star yet, not at all. Plenty of room for both Lacroix and Botman. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, R2D2 said: Even if he doesn't stay long term we will still get all our money back when he gets sold and reinvest in someone else. True. Forgot about that. That would certainly fit into the club's approach of buying young players and then maybe selling them for a higher value later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) Absolute wild card CF (if we shit the bed on all the big names) today (it is June 1st now here) is his 24th B-day Youssef En-Nesyri Big, pace and stamina are both high, scored 24 goals for Sevilla in less than 3000 minutes, plus 2 for Morocco 20 goals in the last 5 months or so of the season including 2 league hat tricks, and a brace v Dortmund in the CL MONSTER in the air Edited May 31, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 who the fuck is going to buy kepa. cant see that. btw im happy if he stays our second keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jas said: I truly wonder whether the club will just go for Lukaku now, despite his age as you mentioned, and not being in it for Haaland next year when Haaland will provide a longer term of success (yes, I know there will be a lot of clubs in for him next summer but still). we all are just pure guessing hopefully educated guesses, but guessing nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, whats happening said: who the fuck is going to buy kepa. cant see that. btw im happy if he stays our second keeper. I am also happy with Kepa as 2nd keeper but Sarri is close to Lazio so he may go for him. Maybe even RLC? Jorginho is too good for Lazio I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 28 minutes ago, Vesper said: They are both far from slow, but yes, not Lacroix FoN pace. Solution. Buy them both, as combined they would cost what Bastoni or Marquinhos or De Ligt would alone, lolol. Sell Zouma FFS. Tomori is likely sold. Sarr is not good enough, but was free, so will generate funds no matter what. Thiago Silva leaves after June 2022. I am not yet sold on Guehi. Certainly not sold at all on Ampadu as a CB. Azpi will be done in a couple years or so. Mbuyamba is so not a guaranteed star yet, not at all. Plenty of room for both Lacroix and Botman. I like that solution but unfortunately we both know this is not gonna happen. The club is so prudently managed that we are unlikely to dish 30m out on a player who has just had 1 season in a first tier league. I personally think on this one it would be well worth the gamble. Lacroix tactical awareness, pace, height and stamina are characteristics that will help him make an impression anywhere. Moreover we are in a perfect position to make a gamble on a young defender like the uncapped Frenchman (read: he would have the summer to work with TT) or Botman. We have a settled core of CBs, so no risk signing an extraone, two of which are ageing so a genuine perspective to integrate a new prospect. We obviously woudl get him. Wolfsburg to RBL is literally almost the smallest step up you can make 4th to 2nd. They obviously can offer him being first XI but working with TT, Silva, Azpi should trump that everyday. Blooding in a new young cb next season is the perfect time with all those legendary defenders in our squad right now about to play a mammoth 60 games season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I am also happy with Kepa as 2nd keeper but Sarri is close to Lazio so he may go for him. Maybe even RLC? Jorginho is too good for Lazio I guess. whats going on with strakosha? also, why are we always go after these not proven cb-s. just go after varane or laporte if they really want to leave. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, whats happening said: who the fuck is going to buy kepa. cant see that. btw im happy if he stays our second keeper. he cannot be our keeper for a month when Mendy goes to AFCON hell NO we should buy Sam Johnstone West Brom will come down from that £20m they told Manure they are fucked financially now that they are relegated and Gallagher and Ainsley Maitland-Niles are gone Matheus Pereira is their only other player worth anything much Karlan Grant and Grady Diangana were huge, disastrous busts (almost £30m down the shitter, which is around 40% of what their entire side is worth now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I am also happy with Kepa as 2nd keeper but Sarri is close to Lazio so he may go for him. Maybe even RLC? Jorginho is too good for Lazio I guess. I do not see Tuchel letting Jorginho go, unless you hand him a Manuel Locatelli, Rúben Neves, Ismaël Bennacer, Bruno Guimarães, or Marcelo Brozovic type deep holder/regista (all of those would be an upgrade btw) who can soak up massive pressure (which Jorginho is sometimes insanely good at, but FAR too often fucks up and does something maddeningly stupid) or Rice, which at £80 to 90m, is not happening maybe Kalvin Phillips or Douglas Luiz, but good luck getting them for fair value, Leeds and Villa have ZERO reason to sell outside shot is that Tuchel sees Julian Weigl as a Jorginho replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jype said: Haaland wouldn't be 'long term' either, Raiola will make sure of that. After all, the pizza man will need new agent commissions every few years.. he is the biggest cunt, agent wise, in football history a real pig-fucker of a human he would make a great Tory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 49 minutes ago, whats happening said: whats going on with strakosha? also, why are we always go after these not proven cb-s. just go after varane or laporte if they really want to leave. Pep would NEVER sell us Laporte Varane, yes, absolutely, if we fail on Bastoni (I think we have no shot at Marquinhos, and Pep wants Bastoni so so bad, he likely will toss Laporte in on a swap + cash deal, which I think is stupid, as in theory, I think Laporte is still superb,, and they would have 3 of the top 6, 7, or 8 CBs on the planet of they bring in Bastoni and keep Laporte) My top 10 CB's atm (not for targets, but overall) Rúben Dias Virgil van Dijk (unless his knee is perma-fucked) Alessandro Bastoni Matthijs de Ligt Marquinhos Raphaël Varane Aymeric Laporte José María Giménez Kalidou Koulibaly Milan Skriniar Thomas Strakosha https://thelaziali.com/2021/05/14/strakosha-will-start-one-more-game-for-lazio-ahead-of-probable-summer-move/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, Vesper said: I do not see Tuchel letting Jorginho go, unless you hand him a Manuel Locatelli, Rúben Neves, Ismaël Bennacer, Bruno Guimarães, or Marcelo Brozovic type deep holder/regista (all of those would be an upgrade btw) who can soak up massive pressure (which Jorginho is sometimes insanely good at, but FAR too often fucks up and does something maddeningly stupid) or Rice, which at £80 to 90m, is not happening maybe Kalvin Phillips or Douglas Luiz, but good luck getting them for fair value, Leeds and Villa have ZERO reason to sell outside shot is that Tuchel sees Julian Weigl as a Jorginho replacement Not sure any of those would work as 1 on 1 Jorginho replacements due to different playing style but i would take Locatelli (been a big advocate of him for months and i think one of the first who brought this name up here, really happy most who checked him out since joined me), Neves and maybe Guimaraes. I think Brozovic is too old and I don't rate Kalvin Phillips, Bennacer or Douglas Luiz. All three are guilty of letting the game pass them by too often. Weigl would probably the closest to a 1 for 1 Jorginho replacement but I actually don't want a 1 for 1 replacement. What Jorginho does is simply not enough. The ideal player to take his place would be someone who has the same composure, passing and tempo control ability and tactical discipline but is less error prone, physically stronger, better tackler, can play line breaking balls from deep and also can roam from box to box if necessary to support the attack. That player probably does not exist but I think Locatelli and Rice come closest. I have not seen enough of Tchouameni but whilst some liken him to Bakayoko some say he is exactly what we need. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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