Atomiswave 6,118 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Puliiszola said: Tbf to them, they have a net spend on 10mil. Did sell sane for 55m They did but watch them spend like a mad man before the season starts again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Why ain't we after Sergio Reguilon of Real Madrid...for the centre back position in my opinion I would like us to go after Ibrahima Konate...that guy will be a beast very soon...though young but combination of Kante Ibrahima Zouma... That's French wall of Jericho... killer1257 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, Alabama said: Why ain't we after Sergio Reguilon of Real Madrid...for the centre back position in my opinion I would like us to go after Ibrahima Konate...that guy will be a beast very soon...though young but combination of Kante Ibrahima Zouma... That's French wall of Jericho... I have listed him as a LB many times I have zero clue what we are going to do anywhere atm, especially LB (and the way the teams who want Emerson are apparently spending on other players makes me leery of being able to sell him for a fair price) CB as well GK as well DMF as well hell, even winger, IF the Havertz deal falls though and Willian bounces out on a free we can still cockup the window badly, despite Ziyech and Werner coming in but I am nowhere near that level of paranoia yet Alabama and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Vesper said: I have listed him as a LB many times I have zero clue what we are going to do anywhere atm, especially LB (and the way the teams who want Emerson are apparently spending on other players makes me leery of being able to sell him for a fair price) CB as well GK as well DMF as well hell even winger, IF Havertz deal falls though we can still cockup the window badly, despite Ziyech and Werner coming in but I am nowhere near that level of paranoia yet Theo and Sergio are millions miles ahead of other LB link with us though I will prefer Telles...in lieu of going after overpriced English targets Rice and Chillwell....Sergio or Theo and Ibrahima are great options that suppose to be front of the positions we are prominently targeting in the transfer market... I believe Marina can very well negotiate Ibrahima fee with RB after Werner with the way we deal with them or even offer them Christensen plus cash....Reguilon would gladly accept our move as well he is not displacing Ferland Mendy at time soon and there is Marcelo as well he can also go the way of Hakimi... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Alabama said: Theo and Sergio are millions miles ahead of other LB link with us though I will prefer Telles...in lieu of going after overpriced English targets Rice and Chillwell....Sergio or Theo and Ibrahima are great options that suppose to be front of the positions we are prominently targeting in the transfer market... I believe Marina can very well negotiate Ibrahima fee with RB after Werner with the way we deal with them or even offer them Christensen plus cash....Reguilon would gladly accept our move as well he is not displacing Ferland Mendy at time soon and there is Marcelo as well he can also go the way of Hakimi... agree other than Marcelo he turns 33yo in 9 months and has been relative shit for well over a year now he will probably go cash in in the USA either this year or next so maybe Sergio sees that as his opportunity, although I think he will be sold to Sevilla on a perm basis at the the of the day I am 1000000% all in for Theo, but I am unfortunately starting to think it will not happen, the more I read, the more I see is at his number one club of choice in the world (for now) Hopefully I am dead wrong. Telles for me after Theo, I give up on predicting CB's, as every one I put forward as an option gets chopped down (Konate has been slated for his injury and thus uncertainty) for some reason or another I mean every one too. Literally. AC is probably the one most agree needs to go from our end. Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I was against the Rice and Chilwell deals initially so I've been doing a bit of soul searching in recent weeks with the links to both just not going away. I'm starting to come round to the idea of Rice given his leadership qualities, recent improvement and obvious passion for the club but Chilwell? Still don't want under any circumstances. Muzchap and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 From a business and cash outlay based don what LCFC want it does not make sense. We are padding out money and the squad is getting stronger, someone like Tagliafoco makes so much more sense, him or Telles. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tomo said: I was against the Rice and Chilwell deals initially so I've been doing a bit of soul searching in recent weeks with the links to both just not going away. I'm starting to come round to the idea of Rice given his leadership qualities, recent improvement and obvious passion for the club but Chilwell? Still don't want under any circumstances. Soul searching? Are you okay, Tomo? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Soul searching? Are you okay, Tomo? He means he was sat rocking in a corner, near his sock draw hugging his knees in a cold sweat thinking about tomorrow. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, Tomo said: I was against the Rice and Chilwell deals initially so I've been doing a bit of soul searching in recent weeks with the links to both just not going away. I'm starting to come round to the idea of Rice given his leadership qualities, recent improvement and obvious passion for the club but Chilwell? Still don't want under any circumstances. Plus Rice is Mount's best friend and we need to keep Mason happy Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, Tomo said: I was against the Rice and Chilwell deals initially so I've been doing a bit of soul searching in recent weeks with the links to both just not going away. I'm starting to come round to the idea of Rice given his leadership qualities, recent improvement and obvious passion for the club but Chilwell? Still don't want under any circumstances. I have wanted Rice for months now (and took stick for it) and have always been against Chilwell (due to both the price and also Theo simply existing, lol) so we are on the same page it terms of the two Muzchap and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Ray 'I am the most irritating presenter in the world' Hudson has just been straight slating Moussa Dembélé all game (Ligue 1 Cup on now) he has been brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Bernd Leno has been Arse's player of the season from what I've heard on AFTV. If that backup keeper of theirs plays a blinder tomorrow against us surely it would be hard to sit him back on the bench for next season? We should be in for Leno in that case. I'm sure he'd be happy to stay in London and play for the bigger, better club. I see he's back fit again after his bad injury. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 14 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Summary: Improving the backline is a priority, Rice is the number one target for centre back and Chilwell left back Chelsea hope that CL football and an increase in salary will tempt Rice to push for a move Barkley, Batshuayi, Emerson, Kepa, Jorginho and Zouma could all potentially leave to raise funds or be used in part exchange (particular note of Moyes at West Ham wrt Barkley) We enquired about Alaba earlier in the year but he wasn't interested Leicester missing out on CL has made Chilwell much more likely Several names have been discussed for goalkeeper, the situation will definitely be resolved, Oblak's price and wages seem too steep, United wouldn't want to let go of Henderson, Onana seems easiest (£30m) Only Chelsea are in a strong position to sign Havertz, but Bayer Leverkuzen want around 90m Euros, whereas Chelsea don't want to pay that upfront A deal for Havertz isn't as close as other people have suggested and the negotiations could drag on Suggests Rajkovic for GK Simon Johnson doesnt seem as in the loop as some journos re. Chelsea Never gets the exclusives, or breaking news. Always one of the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Bernd Leno has been Arse's player of the season from what I've heard on AFTV. If that backup keeper of theirs plays a blinder tomorrow against us surely it would be hard to sit him back on the bench for next season? We should be in for Leno in that case. I'm sure he'd be happy to stay in London and play for the bigger, better club. I see he's back fit again after his bad injury. Doesn't he also make many mistakes? Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Doesn't he also make many mistakes? Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST.Arsenal fans claim that. That is why many of them want Martinez as their no. 1Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 14 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Summary: Improving the backline is a priority, Rice is the number one target for centre back and Chilwell left back Chelsea hope that CL football and an increase in salary will tempt Rice to push for a move Barkley, Batshuayi, Emerson, Kepa, Jorginho and Zouma could all potentially leave to raise funds or be used in part exchange (particular note of Moyes at West Ham wrt Barkley) We enquired about Alaba earlier in the year but he wasn't interested Leicester missing out on CL has made Chilwell much more likely Several names have been discussed for goalkeeper, the situation will definitely be resolved, Oblak's price and wages seem too steep, United wouldn't want to let go of Henderson, Onana seems easiest (£30m) Only Chelsea are in a strong position to sign Havertz, but Bayer Leverkuzen want around 90m Euros, whereas Chelsea don't want to pay that upfront A deal for Havertz isn't as close as other people have suggested and the negotiations could drag on Suggests Rajkovic for GK Sensible Transfers: Chelsea hope fourth place will help Rice and Chilwell deals https://theathletic.com/1962382/2020/07/31/chelsea-transfers-summer-premier-league-rice-chilwell/ Nobody can accuse Chelsea of being dull this season and the entertainment is only going to continue now the summer transfer window is officially open. Hakim Ziyech and Timo Werner are already training with their new team-mates, having completed their moves from Ajax and RB Leipzig respectively, but plans are in place to make sure Chelsea remain very busy in the market over the coming weeks. There are a lot of positives to take from a season that saw the club finish fourth in the Premier League. Christian Pulisic is showing signs his £57 million move from Borussia Dortmund could be a bargain, while young academy graduates such as Mason Mount and Reece James look like being mainstays of the squad for years to come. Frank Lampard has primarily used the 4-3-3 system during his first season in charge, with a high press, ensuring Chelsea are taking the attack to the opposition in most games. But they haven’t been ruthless, as their total of 69 goals from 38 league games suggests. Their style has made them very vulnerable to the counter-attack, plus their weakness in the defence, especially from set pieces, was regularly exposed. They ended up conceding 54 times — joint 11th in the division. Improving that back line is a priority. The Athletic explained in December how Leicester City’s England international Ben Chilwell is their first choice to play at left-back and discussed at the beginning of July why Declan Rice is the main target to play at centre-half, despite being employed as a defensive midfielder at current club West Ham United. West Ham manager David Moyes has warned Chelsea it will take “Bank of England” money — aka, a fee in the region of £80 million — to get Rice to make the same trip across London his boss Lampard did in 2001. This will be a difficult transfer to conclude: it is understood Chelsea have no interest in paying such a large sum; West Ham are in a strong position after staying in the Premier League and are under less pressure financially to sell a key player; and there are four years of Rice’s contract left to run. But The Athletic has been assured that Chelsea are still keen on the idea and have high hopes something can be done. For starters, they are confident Rice, who was released by their academy at the age of 14, can be persuaded to return — especially as they can offer him Champions League football. Chelsea are also one of the biggest payers in the Premier League. Their wage bill for the financial year ending 2018-19 was at £314 million, trailing only Manchester United (£352 million) and Manchester City (£315 million). New acquisition Werner is believed to have been given a deal that will rise to £170,000 a week, plus bonuses. The club are willing to pay Rice significantly more than the salary he agreed with West Ham in 2018, which is thought to be way below £100,000 per week. It has been reported that Chelsea could offer players as part of the negotiations, and this is a possibility. Moyes remains an admirer of their England midfielder Ross Barkley, who made his professional debut under him for Everton in 2011. It should be highlighted that an inquiry was made for Bayern Munich defender David Alaba earlier in the year, but he wasn’t interested. The pursuit of Chilwell has taken a positive twist with Leicester, who spent much of the season in the Champions League places, ending up in fifth and dropping into next season’s Europa League. Chelsea were already optimistic about luring the England international away from the King Power Stadium and he is regarded as one of the key potential signings on Lampard’s shopping list. Like Rice, the valuation provides a potential stumbling block. Leicester regard him at a similar level to former team-mate Harry Maguire, who they sold to Manchester United last summer for £85 million. Chelsea are not going to pay that sort of money, which is why Ajax’s Nicolas Tagliafico has been lined up as an alternative due to his price of £22.4 million. However, sources say Leicester missing out on the vast sums that come with Champions League qualification has made a deal for Chilwell much more likely. The goalkeeping situation is also going to be resolved. With Kepa Arrizabalaga struggling for form and confidence, Chelsea are looking to bring someone else in. Several names have been discussed. Atletico Madrid’s Jan Oblak is much admired but he has a release clause of £109 million and a salary that has been estimated in some quarters to be £300,000 a week. Dean Henderson is another possibility, following a second impressive season on loan at Sheffield United. However, his parent club Manchester United will be unwilling to strengthen a direct rival. There is talk of Burnley’s Nick Pope, after he finished runner-up to Ederson of Manchester City for the Golden Glove (with 15 clean sheets) this season, but a move for Ajax’s Andre Onana would be the easiest deal to complete. The clubs are on good terms following the Ziyech negotiations and Ajax are willing to let him go for £30 million. Ziyech’s presence would help his team-mate of the past four seasons to settle quickly at Chelsea and the playmaker can also talk about his qualities to add to the scouting reports already collated. There is still a desire to improve the attack. The pursuit of Kai Havertz is well documented. At 21 years old, the Germany international is one of the most highly rated emerging players in Europe. Chelsea are in a strong position to sign him. Other interested parties, such as Bayern and Real Madrid, do not have the funds to buy him this year — the former prioritised a deal for Manchester City’s Leroy Sane instead. A five-year deal has been proposed and Havertz is keen to move to London. The question is the fee, with Bayer Leverkusen demanding around €90 million (£81.3 million). After Werner cost them £47 million, albeit due to the terms of a release clause, Chelsea are thinking of a much lower price. A deal isn’t as close to being finalised as suggested elsewhere and the process could drag on. Chelsea still have a lot of money to spend, thanks to the sales of Eden Hazard to Real Madrid and Alvaro Morata to neighbours Atletico. And due to their UEFA transfer ban, they didn’t spend on anyone last summer. But Lampard will have to raise funds by offloading players too and up to six or seven squad members, possibly including Kepa and Barkley, are set to depart. To make room for Chilwell or Tagliafico, Emerson is the man earmarked to make way, with Inter Milan and Juventus possible destinations. Striker Michy Batshuayi knows he is not part of Lampard’s plans and Chelsea are also prepared to listen to offers for Jorginho, who is another drawing interest from Serie A clubs, most notably Juventus. One centre-back will need to be sold to make room for someone like Rice. Kurt Zouma was one Chelsea were looking to cash in on, but he started the most games (25) this season out of the four main choices. At 25, though, he could command a good fee and Everton were keen to turn his 2018-19 season’s loan into a permanent move last year. Chelsea finished 33 points behind champions Liverpool, with runners-up Manchester City 15 ahead of them. Should the club complete all the business they have in mind, they will surely be a lot closer next May. Tifo’s goalkeeper suggestion: Predrag Rajkovic (Reims) Sometimes, you spend too much; sometimes you spend on the wrong player. In Chelsea’s case, they managed both with Kepa. While Levante’s Aitor Fernandez has been the best goalkeeper in Europe’s top five leagues, according to StatsBomb’s post-shot expected goals model, Tifo’s suggestion for Frank Lampard’s side is Predrag Rajkovic. The goalkeeper at French club Reims is fourth in that model, conceding around eight and a half goals fewer than expected. Rajkovic is in the top 15 per cent for crosses stopped and his distribution is generally short and accurate. Importantly, he’s robust, aggressive, reliable, and has been integral to Reims’ surprisingly good season as they finished fifth in Ligue 1. He’s a clear upgrade on Kepa and would be considerably less expensive than some other top-tier options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 43 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Doesn't he also make many mistakes? Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk I'm not sure since I haven't paid close attention to him. I remember he started off kind of shaky, but as I said those guys on AFTV like Troopz are always raving about him saying he's been their best player this season and they'd have finished even further down the table if he hadn't bailed them out a bunch of times. God knows Arse need the money desperately. And it's not like they'd refuse to do business with us since we sold them Luiz last summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 7:10 PM, Rapkun said: I like Aké but I don't think he's an upgrade on either Rudiger or Zouma. City absolutely need to sign 1 or 2 new CBs. Christensen would get into their team playing next to Laporte. That's how badly they need a CB. we should sell AC to them too LOLOLOL Agent AC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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