Chelsea Transfers

[Special Juan 28,141]

Really well done Chelsea what a fucking blinder you have played here....Fought like fuck and paid the best lawyers in the land thousands and thousands to win a case and not to act on it.

This clubs naivety knows no fucking boundaries what so ever, really well done.

[Pizy 18,909]

Well oiled machine we are!

[Special Juan 28,141]

Feel fucking sorry for Giroud, poor fucker is now going to spend the next months sitting around doing nothing.

[LAM09 7,054]

I didn't think we'd have a window worse than those before it.

Forcing someone to stay because Marina & Co are inept.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

And some on here and around will still say we will be fine.

I don't think anyone doesn't feel like the team needs improvement, that is quite clear that we need 3 or 4 quality additions and our younger players (and manager) to gain more experience and development before we're in any position to start pushing the top 2.

But if we've identified targets that both the club and Lampard agree on moving for and they're impossible to pull off this window then I don't see why you'd move away from that just because it's an opportunity to bring someone in.

If we went and brought Zaha for £80m now, people would be losing their shit that we've done that just because he was attainable and questioned why we haven't waited to try and get Sancho, or looked at a better option than Zaha who could move in the summer (say a Grealish for example).

It's a small sample size to be able to draw conclusions from but after the horrendous 2017 summer window (and the following January not much better) with a scattergun mentality that we're still suffering from, the 2018 summer window was done in a much better and thoughtful manner. Obviously no player is a guaranteed success (we could buy Sancho and he flops playing in England) as we've found with Kepa but the club over the last 18 months seems to have realised that the better way is to buy quality over quantity with our budgets and our stance in this window, for me, can only be seen as further proof of that.

The Higuain deal last January was a temporary measure. In prior years we would have ended up buying a player like him and been lumbered with him for the next couple of seasons thereafter. From what it appears we've tried to find a similar option this window to help us for the rest of the season and it's not happened. If the only way of picking up a Mertens or Cavani was to buy them for £15-20m and give them an 18 month or 30 month deal then I can fully see why the club decided against it.

[shrenshah 186]

We should sell giroud

 

No point keeping him forcefully even if there is no replacement

[Special Juan 28,141]

1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I don't think anyone doesn't feel like the team needs improvement, that is quite clear that we need 3 or 4 quality additions and our younger players (and manager) to gain more experience and development before we're in any position to start pushing the top 2.

But if we've identified targets that both the club and Lampard agree on moving for and they're impossible to pull off this window then I don't see why you'd move away from that just because it's an opportunity to bring someone in.

If we went and brought Zaha for £80m now, people would be losing their shit that we've done that just because he was attainable and questioned why we haven't waited to try and get Sancho, or looked at a better option than Zaha who could move in the summer (say a Grealish for example).

It's a small sample size to be able to draw conclusions from but after the horrendous 2017 summer window (and the following January not much better) with a scattergun mentality that we're still suffering from, the 2018 summer window was done in a much better and thoughtful manner. Obviously no player is a guaranteed success (we could buy Sancho and he flops playing in England) as we've found with Kepa but the club over the last 18 months seems to have realised that the better way is to buy quality over quantity with our budgets and our stance in this window, for me, can only be seen as further proof of that.

The Higuain deal last January was a temporary measure. In prior years we would have ended up buying a player like him and been lumbered with him for the next couple of seasons thereafter. From what it appears we've tried to find a similar option this window to help us for the rest of the season and it's not happened. If the only way of picking up a Mertens or Cavani was to buy them for £15-20m and give them an 18 month or 30 month deal then I can fully see why the club decided against it.

When I have calmed down I will respond to this correctly. I have also bookmarked it for when things go wrong in the coming months and injuries to Tammy and Co surface.

[Vesper 30,179]

19 minutes ago, Rapkun said:

I don't think anyone likes seeing Azpi play LB nor is anyone satisfied with that position. We haven't had anyone good enough to play there since Ashley Cole. The club spent a lot of money but never got it right(Luis, Baba, Alonso, Emerson). The least we need is yet another failure. The other problem we face is that you need to offload players in order to sign others. Selling either Alonso or Emerson for a decent fee in january would be very difficult. The club no doubt wants Chilwell, and I wouldn't mind it.

Regarding Dembele, Lyon was never going to sell him. he's their main source of goals and they're trying really hard to qualify for UCL. They never sell their top players in january anyway. They didn't even allow Tousart to leave before the summmer window and he's average.

The club spent way too much money over the years on third and fourt choices, panic buys etc. We need to get it right not add more deadweight. Buying in january will do just that. Also I don't think we need to toss out 400 millions. the squad isn't that bad but some positions are in a dire need to be fixed especially LB and GK.

Obviously, it all depends on UCL qualification. It's going to be nearly impossible to land our top targets if we don't make top 4 but I don't feel there were many players available this month that could improve us. 

(Luis, Baba, Alonso, Emerson).

I never rated any of them

Marina cocked up on Alex Sandro, then Telles over multiple windows

there are others out there we could have made a serious effort with

Gosens (and we had Emerson or Alonso as makeweight)

or Grimaldo

thsi summer we really need to try and prise Theo Hernandez away from Milan as well as pick one of the other s and finally dump the dregs

we are already losing valuation quick on Alonso, soon he will be worth less than half of the £45m we turned down from RM on him in 2018

Inter offered 35m for him, which was our public price, then Marina said 45m or no deal, which is the same shit she pulled in 2018 with RM, wen they met our 45m price, then she said 44m or no deal

she can fuck right off

but I am sure we will go all out for the £80m Chilwell (who is not worth 80m IMHO) and if we fail there will give up and keep what we have

same old bullshit

as for Dembele, Lyon DID buy another decent striker (Karl Toko Ekambi), and we also had 2 to offer as makeweight if they wanted another

money talks, bullshit walks

colour me utterly sick of this clownish board

 

 

[whats happening 1,615]

so i just woke up after one month sleep, who did we bought this transfer window? 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Just now, whats happening said:

so i just woke up after one month sleep, who did we bought this transfer window? 

What have Spurs won lately?

[Vesper 30,179]

7 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I didn't think we'd have a window worse than those before it.

Forcing someone to stay because Marina & Co are inept.

not just inept

they took it out on Giroud

over Conte besting them

Inter were literally the only team who rates Moses, so that was a no brainer

but Giroud is another creature

plus there is a strong hatred of Deschamps too because of Kante

so I see this as a cheapshot at him as well (not that the fuckstick doesn't deserve it)

[Jase 43,479]

56 minutes ago, Vesper said:

good luck coaching Bats, Giroud (a very pissed off Giroud), Alonso, Emerson, Azpi-as-LB, Pedro, and a declino, contract sulking, walking on a free Willian, plus a very out-of-sorts Kante, AND invent creativity where it doesn't exist, all up to a level to win against equal or better teams plus not cock-up against dire desperate low block clawers

You're right but how about making sure we don't look vulnerable at defending set pieces? How about making sure we don't look like conceding every time a cross comes in? How about making sure our attacking play amounts to something more than dumping crosses into the box via James? How about making better use of whatever resources we have? Inconsistency was to be expected of this side given what we had to begin the season with but we went through a good period earlier this season where we played good stuff and were winning games. So, how about Lampard try to use his management skills to get us right back on track? Our problems won't be solved entirely with signings if, for example, we continue to look vulnerable in defensive situations. 

[Marvin123 534]

Just watched the presser. He dodge the cavani question like the plague. Holding on to tiny hope I think 😂

[Abreu03 292]

FUCKING SHIT BOARD.

What a SHAME.

[Vytis33 1,270]

It'd be nice if one window we identified a need, a player to solve it and were decisive about signing him.  We come across as unprepared almost as if we're caught by surprise the transfer window is even open.  Do we not have a scouting department watching players in other leagues, specifically players that are signable and would be a fit for the managers system?  This one is even funnier since we fought to overturn the ban to ultimately do nothing. 

If we had brought in a CF or a LB in January I would've been happy.  Shift Giroud or Alonso in the process.  There's a wide margin between not overpaying for a player and being complete penny pinchers.  Like in the scheme of things if we paid an extra 10-15M for Dembele and he helps us achieve CL that's money well spent.  We had a need, missed the summer window and there's a January 'tax' of doing business.  But we need CL football.  Ok that's it for me on this. 

 

Big fixture tomorrow...come on you Blues!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vesper 30,179]

Just now, Jason said:

You're right but how about making sure we don't look vulnerable at defending set pieces? How about making sure we don't look like conceding every time a cross comes in? How about making sure our attacking play amounts to something more than dumping crosses into the box via James? How about making better use of whatever resources we have? Inconsistency was to be expected of this side given what we had to begin the season with but we went through a good period earlier this season where we played good stuff and were winning games. So, how about Lampard try to use his management skills to get us right back on track? Our problems won't be solved entirely with signings if, for example, we continue to look vulnerable in defensive situations. 

I agree on all that you just said, that is on Lampard to sort out

I just hate to see him not get proper tools in the only 2 positions I desperately wanted for this window

I was not asking for anything much, and yet we failed on that even

I do think he needs to use Giroud a lot more, as we are now stuck with him

Bats is pure pants

[Jase 43,479]

22 minutes ago, Mana said:

Most of the players aren’t coachable. That was obvious in the first part of the season.

You're right. Some players are just bad. But I'm talking about our problems in general. I mean, every time we have to defend, we look like conceding especially with crosses. Every time we attack, it amounts to nothing more than dumping crosses to Abraham or god knows which other short player on the far side to score these days. Why? Lampard needs to re-evaluate things during the upcoming break because while we have some bad players in the team, like half of the problems we have comes down to coaching. 

26 minutes ago, Mana said:

And more problems will creep up. I don’t expect these kids to maintain this level of fitness throughout the season especially when CL returns. In fact they are slipping right now.

If we're being honest, who expects us to beat Bayern? Get knocked out early and we can solely concentrate on the Premier League and maybe the FA Cup as well. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I agree on all that you just said, that is on Lampard to sort out

I just hate to see him not get proper tools in the only 2 positions I desperately wanted for this window

I was not asking for anything much, and yet we failed on that even

I do think he needs to use Giroud a lot more, as we are now stuck with him

Bats is pure pants

His use of Giroud and Pedro really. For example, since a lot of teams sit back against us, why don't we try to use Giroud upfront and have the others play off him? As you said, Batshuayi is so USELESS as a backup. Doesn't do anything apart from scoring!

I hope he re-evaluates the squad again and try to make better use of them, although I'm not holding out much hope after his response about Giroud earlier.

[Jase 43,479]

We never had a chance with Cavani, did we? 

Best start praying we have a 2014/15 summer... 

[Superblue 6,372]

8 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

When I have calmed down I will respond to this correctly. I have also bookmarked it for when things go wrong in the coming months and injuries to Tammy and Co surface.

The injury to Tammy would be an issue if we let Giroud leave without bringing in another option. That would be pure madness and I would be raging then.

I'm sure once the options for Cavani and Mertens weren't happening, we still could have secured a loan deal for another striker, but would we have found one as good as Giroud or Batshuayi? There's been links to us, Spurs and United for Slimani! If we're talking this level then you might as well stick with what you've got. Like I've said before, Lampard needs to find a way or have more confidence in giving opportunities to Giroud for the rest of the season.

Or we go and buy a striker who we maybe could get this window but Lampard and the club aren't 100% on. That's the recipe for long term pain over short term gain when we're stuck with another striker come the summer that we'd probably rather move on than keep alongside Batshuayi, and potentially hindering any other pursuits. I'd rather we're buying a player challenging Tammy for the number 1 spot, not Batshuayi for the number 2 spot.