Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 29,012]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

What left backs out there are currently an upgrade over Emerson?

Chillwell stats wise isn't even that much of an upgrade when you consider how much he will cost. 

lol, watch Chilwell play and tell me again he is not even that much of an upgrade over our LB's

did you even see the England game? Hat trick of assists and was all over the pitch like a demon, which is also how he play for Leicester

on a full seasons minutes, he would track to 3 or 4 goals and 13 or 14 assists

 

Emerson has zero and zero in over 700 minutes worth of play this season

Alonso has 1 goal and 2 assists in almost 1000 minutes of play

combine the two, and you get 3 goals and 6 assist in over 5000 minutes (a full season, Azpi style), plus shit defence and horrid forward offensive flow

 

it is not a coincidence that the top 3 teams in the table have by FAR the best sets of fullbacks in the EPL

we are absolutely insane if we roll with Emerson and Alonso at LB for next season

it is by far the worst position on the squad

 

you asked who would be upgrades

 

Alaba (if he was available, which he will not be more than likely, and summer 2020 is the last year I would buy him, due to his age)

Chilwell

José Gayà (100m euro release clause, though)

Alex Sandro (too old to buy now he turns 30 in the middle of next season, so that ship has sailed)

Alex Telles (same issue as Alaba, summer 2020 is the last go-round to buy, due to his age)

Malang Sarr (IF we swing and miss disastrously on Chilwell, and IF he plays well the full year at his new position (he just switched to LB from CB) he is who I would go for, he is pretty big for a LB (1.82m), so fast, only will be 21yo, and is strong as  bull, plus Kante can mentor him (both are French)

Alejandro Grimaldo

Lucas Digne (not saying to buy him but he is an upgrade over both of our LB's and is a proven EPL-level player)

Sergio Reguilón (but Real gets him back from a loan to Sevilla and they will not sell him)

Nicolás Tagliafico (same age as Alaba and only a little older than Telles, so the same thing applies)

Aarón Martín (22yo Spanish version of a poor man's Chilwell, plays on Mainz)

complete wild card:

Lloyd Kelly (very tall (1.90m), just turned 21, Bristol-born, now on Bournemouth, England U-21 starter)  we have scouted the shit out of him, could not buy him due to the bans, Victimpool wanted him bad, but he wanted more playing time, he is soon healthy again, need to watch his progress

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Fernando said:

It's foolish to make a decision after one game. It has to be taken as a whole in general. 

That being said striker, Lb and cb are ones that I prioritize for a while because I never felt that Tammy, zouma and Emerson where top class players. 

But other then that one match should not be used as reason to decide on one player. 

It's not an overreaction to one match but it really reinforced the fact that we need more from those positions. 

Regarding Abraham, I'd cut him some slack. He's still young and it's his first season in our first team. But we need better options than Batshuayi and Giroud. 

[Fernando 6,484]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's not an overreaction to one match but it really reinforced the fact that we need more from those positions. 

Regarding Abraham, I'd cut him some slack. He's still young and it's his first season in our first team. But we need better options than Batshuayi and Giroud. 

I agree, giroud to be sold and hopefully replaced by someone else. Bats let's sell him to Crystal palace, they wanted him. And get a top striker and a cf like zaha.... If zaha was cheap I would take him. But at his age and the money being asked.... I much rather get cavani as a third striker. 

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

The big downside to Ziyech is that we will only get 2 full sub 30yo seasons out of him. He turns 28 next season so it is not a truly future forward-looking buy. He also has never played outside of the Eredivisie. I have seen articles saying he has yet to even enter his prime years, which unless you count prime years as only 2 or at most, 3, is just silly and ignores all  overall data on wingers.

He is deffo a dice roll. I do love his style of play though.

Said it before, buying players from Eredivisie is a huge risk. So many have come to the Premier League from there and failed over the years. Tadic, for example, was bang average in the PL but looked like a world beater all of a sudden in that Ajax side. 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Fernando said:

I agreed, giroud to be sold and hopefully replaced by someone else. Bats let's sell him to Crystal palace, they wanted him. And get a top striker and a cf like zaha.... If zaha was cheap I would take him. But at his age and the money being asked.... I much rather get cavani as a third striker. 

Zaha is not a striker! And god please, no. He's overrated. Stay far away as possible!

[Vesper 29,012]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Said it before, buying players from Eredivisie is a huge risk. So many have come to the Premier League from there and failed over the years. Tadic, for example, was bang average in the PL but looked like a world beater all of a sudden in that Ajax side. 

yes, I have said this too in arguing against Ziyech, and just used Tadic as an example as well

[Fernando 6,484]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Zaha is not a striker! And god please, no. He's overrated. Stay far away as possible!

Well someone like Timo werner and a back up like cavani will do. 

Top strikers today are a rare thing as compare to a decade or two ago. 

[Jase 43,479]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/nov/24/roman-abramovich-no-plan-sell-chelsea-bruce-buck

Responding to the suggestion that the club appears to be on hold given Abramovich’s absence and the mothballed stadium plans, Buck said: “I understand what you are saying and it is hard to disprove it, except to say: ‘Let’s see what happens in the next transfer window.’ The point I am making – it’s a glib one – if we go out in the next window and spend a zillion, it’s pretty hard to argue that things are on hold.”

[Vesper 29,012]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/nov/24/roman-abramovich-no-plan-sell-chelsea-bruce-buck

 

 

and if we spend jack shit? what does that mean?

btw, I am NOT saying we will spend jack shit

[Vesper 29,012]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well someone like Timo werner and a back up like cavani will do. 

Top strikers today are a rare thing as compare to a decade or two ago. 

Werner is perfect as he is cheap as fuck (£25m release clause) and can play winger too

he is built for the EPL

[NikkiCFC 8,049]

We all agree on positions we should be looking for but it's hard to pick targets. We fans think we know everything but tbh most desirable players among fans over the last couple of years here have been SMS, Belotti, Bailey, Zaha, Icardi, Piatek, Lukaku... Now we wouldn't take any of them for half the price! 

[MoroccanBlue 5,318]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

lol, watch Chilwell play and tell me again he is not even that much of an upgrade over our LB's

did you even see the England game? Hat trick of assists and was all over the pitch like a demon, which is also how he play for Leicester

on a full seasons minutes, he would track to 3 or 4 goals and 13 or 14 assists

I have, and I repeat, for 70+ million (rumored to be triple digits now) I don't value him as an upgrade over Emerson. Chilwell performed well against Montenegro.  Emerson was the bollocks against Greece just a few months ago and before his injury, now people's perception of him has changed after one game. 

Give me Grimaldo. Who is reported to only be 35-40 million

 

[Vesper 29,012]

2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I have, and I repeat, for 70+ million (rumored to be triple digits now) I don't value him as an upgrade over Emerson. Chilwell performed well against Montenegro.  Emerson was the bollocks against Greece just a few months ago and before his injury, now people's perception of him has changed after one game. 

Give me Grimaldo. Who is reported to only be 35-40 million

 

Leicester will not get £100m plus for Chilwell (nor would I pay that)

IF he does well the full year at LB, and we fail on Chilwell and we refuse to buy Alex Telles, I would go for Malang Sarr

as for Grimaldo his release clause WAS 60m euro, it is now likely closer to 80m or even 100m (Jose Gaya's just went up to 100m a few months back)

as per breaking news

Grimaldo signs contract extension with Benfica until 2023
24/11/2019 22:56 CET

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/11/24/5ddafbdaca47413a278b458b.html

[Vesper 29,012]

3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We all agree on positions we should be looking for but it's hard to pick targets. We fans think we know everything but tbh most desirable players among fans over the last couple of years here have been SMS, Belotti, Bailey, Zaha, Icardi, Piatek, Lukaku... Now we wouldn't take any of them for half the price! 

SMS   was never a huge fan, that was MJ

Belotti was before my time here, he does look a beast again but doubt we make a move and Torino will ask for silly money

Bailey was (we probably dodged a bullet) more than likely a one season transfer frenzy wonder (I have been sketchy on him since his Jamaican clingers-on crew started with their bullshit)

Zaha has never really interested me, and I am a dead set NO

Icardi, now here you have me I still would take hm in a flash, but PSG (he has been insanely good for them) is so so going to snap him up, plus his wife is nutz

Piatek, yes, I think we fucked up badly by pissing away 16m for 6 months of that cunt Higs with zero ownership versus spending 15m more and outright owning Piatek, even if he has fallen off the pace. We still could have sold him on if he did not work out and made most of our cash back or even turned a profit as opposed to a flat out 16m loo shitter we took on Higs

Lukaku? HELL NO, lololol Thank fuck we did not buy him back (all here will notice I never bitch about him or Salah (we all had no clue how good Salah was, at least I did not, again I ws not here then) being sold, only De Bruyne <<<< mutherfoookin GRRRRRRR, never will forgive)

 

so on Icardi you have me (and also try to get him now still, lolol, he will cost a bloody fortune still, and I wanted him and Dybala both since Sampdoria and Palermo days )

Piatek was a process buy /versus Higs and I knew the bans were coming) and a worthy gamble due to low strike price

 

 

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[killer1257 3,282]

 

Sancho is quite a diva and a troublemaker. He came one day too late after an international game and got banned for the match and fined. Funny Thing is that was not even the first time that happened to him.

Also, he does not work for the team sometimes like against Bayern, where he just did not Track back and that is why he got substituted.

He will be hard to deal with. I could Imagine him leaving his next club after 3 years or so.

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[NikkiCFC 8,049]

18 hours ago, the wes said:

 

Can this lower down his price? 

[Jase 43,479]

15 hours ago, killer1257 said:

Sancho is quite a diva and a troublemaker. He came one day too late after an international game and got banned for the match and fined. Funny Thing is that was not even the first time that happened to him.

Also, he does not work for the team sometimes like against Bayern, where he just did not Track back and that is why he got substituted.

He will be hard to deal with. I could Imagine him leaving his next club after 3 years or so.

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Curious, how have the German media reacted to Sancho over all of this? Negative? Mixed reactions?