Vesper 30,537 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Gundalf said: Mainz is not the problem. They conceded 13 goals in their last 4 matches. The problem for Dortmund is Augsburg away - only won 1 of their last 7 games there. nil 3 Dortmund over Augsburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Vesper said: nil 3 Dortmund over Augsburg Thats the title in the bag really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,406 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Bayern's problems clearly existed before Tuchel, otherwise why would they remove Nagelsmann 2 months before the end. It's like saying that Lampard is the reason for our memorable season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, milka said: Bayern's problems clearly existed before Tuchel, otherwise why would they remove Nagelsmann 2 months before the end. It's like saying that Lampard is the reason for our memorable season. Well I heard people here saying that if we had installed a world class coach after Potter we would have turned the thing around since world class coaches like Tuchel always have an immediate impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Well I heard people here saying that if we had installed a world class coach after Potter we would have turned the thing around since world class coaches like Tuchel always have an immediate impact. Why you'd think it's not true? Sacking Tuchel was sabotage, appointing Potter was sabotage, but salvagable until certain point. Keeping him for so long only left the barren ground here. Appointing Poch will mean we are settling few levels below of what we were aiming before. Difference is, we have long lasting structure problems and our owners seem clueless, but with good intentions. Bayern on the other hand is own kind of shithousery, with having zero competition in easy league and financial handicap, yet two funny, clueless people with egos shooting to the moon behind the wheel and I'm still amazed to this day Tuchel decided to step his foot in there. The common denominator is both clubs have toxic atmosphere and internal conflicts due to clueless people in executive positions. Still, in our case, it could be patched up if mitigated early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,848 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,335 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 if this is what we are holding onto, wow OneMoSalah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,567 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Well I heard people here saying that if we had installed a world class coach after Potter we would have turned the thing around since world class coaches like Tuchel always have an immediate impact. There's a difference between having an impact and just throwing away the rest of the season. Because that's what Lampards appointment has done. Replacing Potter with an even worse manager might make Potter look better, but the fact is that they're both terrible Vegetable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Why you'd think it's not true? Sacking Tuchel was sabotage, appointing Potter was sabotage, but salvagable until certain point. Keeping him for so long only left the barren ground here. Appointing Poch will mean we are settling few levels below of what we were aiming before. Difference is, we have long lasting structure problems and our owners seem clueless, but with good intentions. Bayern on the other hand is own kind of shithousery, with having zero competition in easy league and financial handicap, yet two funny, clueless people with egos shooting to the moon behind the wheel and I'm still amazed to this day Tuchel decided to step his foot in there. The common denominator is both clubs have toxic atmosphere and internal conflicts due to clueless people in executive positions. Still, in our case, it could be patched up if mitigated early. Tuchel at Bayern just shows the opposite. They fired Nagelsmann bc their titles were in danger, Tuchel lost them all, didnt make them better a bit, even got them worse. Installing Poch instead of Lampard would have ended in tears as well. If the structure is in shambles u can appoint any manager in the world, it wont work. So appointing a Poch or someone else before they fix the structure is just pointless. The mistakes of this season have been made earlier, in the summer, u cant just fix them while the season is going. This is also the reason why they dont announce Poch before the season ends. There was nothing to save, this season was thrown away in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,537 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, milka said: Bayern's problems clearly existed before Tuchel, otherwise why would they remove Nagelsmann 2 months before the end. It's like saying that Lampard is the reason for our memorable season. Bayern is far worse under Tuchel than under Nagelsmann it isn't even close and Lampard is by far the worst manager we have had in ages Potter 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,406 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) Bayern is bad not because of Tuchel, but because of Kahn and Salihamidzic . We can bet that next year they will be champions with 10+ points difference with Tuchel anyway . Also, after 10 titles in a row, they can take a year off. Edited May 21, 2023 by milka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, milka said: Also, after 10 titles in a row, they can take a year off. U should see their forums - they moan more than us 😂 calling their players losers that can fuck off lol Edited May 21, 2023 by Gundalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,049 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Gundalf said: U should see their forums - they moan more than us 😂 calling their players losers that can fuck off lol We have good reasons to moan... they win the league every fucking year. There's a big difference between our situation and theirs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,954 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Bayern are a shambles off the pitch yes but their form had been questionable under Nagelsmann too. Maybe Tuchel should of done more but Dortmund for once have sustained a challenge as opposed to falling away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,461 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Nagelsmann had 3 defeats in 37 games this season. Tuchel 4 in 11. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,537 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Nagelsmann had 3 defeats in 37 games this season. Tuchel 4 in 11. I have no idea why they sacked Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,537 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) wrong forum Edited May 25, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,537 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 schoolboy defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,537 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Fofana has been HORRIFIC the last 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,537 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Abramovich is laughing his arse off I wager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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