Superblue 6,372 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, DDA said: He has bigger concerns. He also said he learned things today that he will never forget. Bye bye Christensen. Bye bye Rudiger. Bye bye Zouma. Bye bye Kepa. That one sentence spoke volumes. Whether Lampard is the right manager to take us forward long term can be debated on here until the end of time. But I hope that the club back Lampard this summer to re-shape this team. One of the biggest drawbacks to our record of changing managers at a regular rate is that it has allowed too many players (past and present) to remain at the club for longer than they deserved to. The chopping and changing this season, particularly in our defence has shown that Lampard trusts very few of them. What he has shown though I think this season is a low level of tolerance with them that has seen most of them pulled off or dropped for poor performances or mistakes. I think if he's given the opportunity and is backed, he will be ruthless trying to re-shape this squad and a number could go. Getting a couple of signings done early and an extended transfer window this summer/autumn may actually be a blessing for us to try and sort a lot of these problems out. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: LOL So its either he knows he is fucked or he is saying he is done with some of them players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Hopefully he learnt a lot from not just the defeat but how gutless and lifeless some of these fuckers are. When I think back to JT, Lampas himself, Drogba, Ashley Cole and I could go on we have nobody compatible in this current team, nobody even close. The Mak and xPetrCechx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: LOL Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: If they are violating the EU laws how in the fuck did they get it activated in the first place? How have clubs played under such rules? Well they came up with a system that all the big boys thought was glorious as it essentially kept them in power forever. PSG and City broke the rules in 2011-14 and UEFA just gave them a fine instead of taking it to court as they got a lovely chunk of money and then could pretend that they punished them. The problem however is some then hacked City to call BS and UEFA had to act. FFP has not been tested legally yet because teams have either paid off UEFA (PSG/City) and/or gone along with it as long term the FFP rules favour them (AC). I am not here saying City getting off is going to be wonderful, it is going to be sh*t. However, there are a lot of people on here who think there ban is a forgone conclusion when it is not. I personally hope I am wrong but I see a lot of holes in both UEFA's case and FFP in general. kc_blue and Atomiswave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, King Kante said: Well they came up with a system that all the big boys thought was glorious as it essentially kept them in power forever. PSG and City broke the rules in 2011-14 and UEFA just gave them a fine instead of taking it to court as they got a lovely chunk of money and then could pretend that they punished them. The problem however is some then hacked City to call BS and UEFA had to act. FFP has not been tested legally yet because teams have either paid off UEFA (PSG/City) and/or gone along with it as long term the FFP rules favour them (AC). I am not here saying City getting off is going to be wonderful, it is going to be sh*t. However, there are a lot of people on here who think there ban is a forgone conclusion when it is not. I personally hope I am wrong but I see a lot of holes in both UEFA's case and FFP in general. Then the rest should not have played ball if its in violation of EU rules....fuck the so called historic clubs as if they are more special or have higher rights. But I still feel they will get punished, they simply cooked the books for too long and in a huge way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Just watch how City deal with Brighton here... Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Then the rest should not have played ball if its in violation of EU rules....fuck the so called historic clubs as if they are more special or have higher rights. But I still feel they will get punished, they simply cooked the books for too long and in a huge way. City have cooked the books according to FFP. However, if FFP does break EU competition law then they have technically not done anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Critique is fine but there are 11 professional footballers out there who are paid a kind ransom, making mistakes that my wee fellas team would be utterly ashamed of. Sounds to me like you agree with most of us lol Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Wtf? I go to the beach and come home to this shit? Why the fuck did he start Abraham? FFS, we will be very lucky to finish top 4 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 LEICESTER LAST 3 FIXTURES * Spurs * Liverpool * Manchester United ok we have a chance IF we beat Wolves and Liverpool This is my top 4 * Liverpool * City * Manchester United * Chelsea Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Then the rest should not have played ball if its in violation of EU rules....fuck the so called historic clubs as if they are more special or have higher rights. But I still feel they will get punished, they simply cooked the books for too long and in a huge way. FFP was put into place to protect 5 clubs after Roman went wild his first two years (and they foresaw PSG and Shitty as well coming over the horizon, and if not them, some other club bought by a multi-billionaire) the big 5 for decades (I deal with the 6th big one below and how it really fucked them) Real Madrid (4th biggest driver) Barca (the 5th biggest driver) Manure (3rd biggest driver and terrified of Roman) Bayern (2nd biggest driver as they knew they could not compete with the other big 6 (counting AC Milan) nor us nor Shitty, nor PSG) due to lower revenues if they could all spend at will Juve the biggest driver overall, as the Agnelli dynastic family (true villainous scum) HATED that AC Milan, the 6th of the Big 6 old boys, with multi-billionaire Silvio Berlusconi dropping insane cash for years, was able to outspend them and ellipse them at European level by the mid noughties) the other old school Euro giant, Ajax, was already well fucked for years due to shit revenues from a shit league Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Usual story. Pathetic performance again. Cant believe with the amount of stories there was about OGS being mooted for an exit Lampard hasnt had the same pressure/stories this season. If this keeps happening to end of season I would very much like to see if the club consider approaching Max Allegri or Mauricio Pochettino who are out there and available. You can put it down to the players at times but the naive management in certain games we have seen throughout this season hasnt filled me with confidence that Frank is going to get it right on a consistent enough basis. For instance, beating City only to get beat by West Ham and Sheffield United on top of the amount of dropped points throughout this season is a huge red flag for me. Yes some of the players aren't good enough but it isn't all just down to them also: we have been over things time and time again this season about consistency, organisation, defensive set plays, being caught on transitions etc far too often. Plus if he cannot motivate these guys to get top 4, how is he going to motivate a group of these guys who will stay to compete for a title? Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Sheffield, West Ham, Bournemouth - 6 games, 2 points, 12 goals conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: FFP was put into place to protect 5 clubs after Roman went wild his first two years (and they foresaw PSG and Shitty as well coming over the horizon, and if not them, some other club bought by a multi-billionaire) the big 5 for decades (I deal with the 6th big one below and how it really fucked them) Real Madrid (4th biggest driver) Barca (the 5th biggest driver) Manure (3rd biggest driver and terrified of Roman) Bayern (2nd biggest driver as they knew they could not compete with the other big 6 (counting AC Milan) nor us nor Shitty, nor PSG) due to lower revenues if they could all spend at will Juve the biggest driver overall, as the Agnelli dynastic family (true villainous scum) HATED that AC Milan, the 6th of the Big 6 old boys, with multi-billionaire Silvio Berlusconi dropping insane cash for years, was able to outspend them and ellipse them at European level by the mid noughties) the other old school Euro giant, Ajax, was already well fucked for years due to shit revenues from a shit league Scum the lot of them....cant wait to see what happens monday morning. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Usual story. Pathetic performance again. Cant believe with the amount of stories there was about OGS being mooted for an exit Lampard hasnt had the same pressure/stories this season. If this keeps happening to end of season I would very much like to see if the club consider approaching Max Allegri or Mauricio Pochettino who are out there and available. You can put it down to the players at times but the naive management in certain games we have seen throughout this season hasnt filled me with confidence that Frank is going to get it right on a consistent enough basis. For instance, beating City only to get beat by West Ham and Sheffield United on top of the amount of dropped points throughout this season is a huge red flag for me. Yes some of the players aren't good enough but it isn't all just down to them also: we have been over things time and time again this season about consistency, organisation, defensive set plays, being caught on transitions etc far too often. Plus if he cannot motivate these guys to get top 4, how is he going to motivate a group of these guys who will stay to compete for a title? Allegri is Inter-bound if Conte tosses his toys out the pram over transfer expenditures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Usual story. Pathetic performance again. Cant believe with the amount of stories there was about OGS being mooted for an exit Lampard hasnt had the same pressure/stories this season. If this keeps happening to end of season I would very much like to see if the club consider approaching Max Allegri or Mauricio Pochettino who are out there and available. You can put it down to the players at times but the naive management in certain games we have seen throughout this season hasnt filled me with confidence that Frank is going to get it right on a consistent enough basis. For instance, beating City only to get beat by West Ham and Sheffield United on top of the amount of dropped points throughout this season is a huge red flag for me. Yes some of the players aren't good enough but it isn't all just down to them also: we have been over things time and time again this season about consistency, organisation, defensive set plays, being caught on transitions etc far too often. Plus if he cannot motivate these guys to get top 4, how is he going to motivate a group of these guys who will stay to compete for a title? I doubt Marina or RA will go for Poch or Max, they will give FL another go. We have a few red flags that are not player associated sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Scum the lot of them....cant wait to see what happens monday morning. its a rigged game, no doubt, there is nothing else like it in world sport Atomiswave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Just now, Vesper said: its a rigged game, no doubt Most def, even a blind person should be able to see it. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Its not a time to be talking of replacing FL, it's the shite players he has to pick. He's got Werner, Ziyech and more to come....hopefully they can displace the shite in this team now. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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