Stats 7,142 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I am sick of waiting for mikel to improve , his learning curve is so slow , he has been with us for 7 years and Ramires learned in 1 year more than him .I am sorry but that is rubbish. Mikel was not a DM when we bought him, he wanted to play as an attacking mid so obviously the tranisition will be longer and playing a DM role and getting adjusted to it and being told you can not go forward will take time to learn and over the years has learned this brilliantly. He has improved every season for us and is a key player now for us. I think we have developed him into one of the best holding-mids in the premiership IMO. How else you want him to improve, I do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just had a look for Mikels stats on EPLindexThey are actually incredibly good for a defensive mid. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just had a look for Mikels stats on EPLindexThey are actually incredibly good for a defensive mid.Impossible, Mikel is just some random guy playing for us because we have no one else to play I said it last season and I'll continue to say it until it becomes untrue: Along with Song, Mikel is the best DM in the league. capriccioso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 What do you want from him? Do you expect him to be some sort of Hollywood wanker? Running 20km per game and winning 100 tackles a game, scoring three 30 yarders a match and pinging spectacular 80 yard through balls?Mikel's detractors should stick to playing FIFA orr watching those Goal! films, where they can realise their delusions of average players like Tiote and Parker somehow being fit to lace the shoes of a European champion. Jusek, OneMoSalah, Ramzi and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Ivanovic is probably going to get all the blame and rightfully so.But this guy Mikel is hopeless to say the least, to say he is shit is actually complimenting him.He is just an useless body on the pitch which (sadly) is playing for us.Got caught out of position countless times, overran just as many and lost all the 50/50 battles.No passion, no drive, no agression.This guy offers absolutely nothing offensively and is just as bad in defending, really.He is just a blank page, pathetic player, never been good enough and never will.Fuking pathetic wussy.And if Robbie can't see that, then I feel sorry for him, cuz he will get his head axed sooner rather then later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Ivanovic is probably going to get all the blame and rightfully so.But this guy Mikel is hopeless to say the least, to say he is shit is actually complimenting him.He is just an useless body on the pitch which (sadly) is playing for us.Got caught out of position countless times, overran just as many and lost all the 50/50 battles.No passion, no drive, no agression.This guy offers absolutely nothing offensively and is just as bad in defending, really.He is just a blank page, pathetic player, never been good enough and never will.Fuking pathetic wussy.And if Robbie can't see that, then I feel sorry for him, cuz he will get his head axed sooner rather then later.If Mikel were even remotely Offensive then we would have lost this by 3 goals. He is being exposed because the other side of the pivot is spending more time in the attacking box than our actual striker. It is no mistake he looked better in the second half when we were a man down, and Lampard was practically forced to stay back in the pivot next to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 What do you want from him? Do you expect him to be some sort of Hollywood wanker? Running 20km per game and winning 100 tackles a game, scoring three 30 yarders a match and pinging spectacular 80 yard through balls?Mikel's detractors should stick to playing FIFA orr watching those Goal! films, where they can realise their delusions of average players like Tiote and Parker somehow being fit to lace the shoes of a European champion.I love how your thoughts have now all changed...Yeah and as for those stats, Leon Britton is the best english midfielder at the moment if that's the case.Fuck stats, they show only a little bit and even then they are misguided, watch how a player does on the pitch, that's the only true way you can know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I love how your thoughts have now all changed...Yeah and as for those stats, Leon Britton is the best english midfielder at the moment if that's the case.Fuck stats, they show only a little bit and even then they are misguided, watch how a player does on the pitch, that's the only true way you can know.of course you were a DM until you retired from football ...a while ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 of course you were a DM until you retired from football ...a while agoAnd you where... oh no i can't say anything as I'll get banned. Peace. and Justin_3d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I love how your thoughts have now all changed...Yeah and as for those stats, Leon Britton is the best english midfielder at the moment if that's the case.Fuck stats, they show only a little bit and even then they are misguided, watch how a player does on the pitch, that's the only true way you can know.Hardly.I back Mikel to the hilt. One bad game won't change that. I want him starting against Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hardly.I back Mikel to the hilt. One bad game won't change that. I want him starting against Wigan.One bad game?, he's been average for a while now. He will never flourish and he's like what coming up 26?, he can only get more experienced and that will not turn him into a world beater, or sadly even a 'good player'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 He is a good player but I don't think he fits the attacking and controlling football. In defensive football he is very good at what he does. He likes to spend time on the ball which in turn allows players to nick the ball off him and so I believe he needs cover in the midfield which is very lacking when Lamps is his only partner. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I would love to have Tiote.The best DM to solve all our problems. RamiCFC9 and Kojo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 He is a good player but I don't think he fits the attacking and controlling football. In defensive football he is very good at what he does. He likes to spend time on the ball which in turn allows players to nick the ball off him and so I believe he needs cover in the midfield which is very lacking when Lamps is his only partner.To be honest i don't think he fits anything.Probably defensive football, when we where holding out our own last season under RDM, he was pretty decent then. But as our new starting XI and we are to be the new Chelsea to try and win things, he is not good enough to be our DM, especially starting DM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 He had his worst game in years.He lost the ball 6 times already, last season he only lost it 20 times in total. Huge drop. But he'll get it together, I'm sure of that. You don't just go to shit overnight, especially if you're don't get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 He had his worst game in years.He lost the ball 6 times already, last season he only lost it 20 times in total. Huge drop. But he'll get it together, I'm sure of that. You don't just go to shit overnight, especially if you're don't get injured.No, Oriol Romeu put in better performances than Mikel has ever put in ever for this club. Romeu was class when he was under AVB, just class.Where as for Mikel he is always average and will never be... good enough.Fair enough lets keep him if you all love him that much for rotation, but please you all should accept we need a new DM, even Essien unfortunately is not even a good replacement for him. RamiCFC9 and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 From what I can remember Mikel always does bad against City.I guess he don't like their high tempo pressing game, and big guys like Yaya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 From what I can remember Mikel always does bad against City.I guess he don't like their high tempo pressing game, and big guys like Yaya!You're going to get that in the premier league, Mikel might do well in Serie A as it's a different type of league, but this leagues much more aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 You're going to get that in the premier league, Mikel might do well in Serie A as it's a different type of league, but this leagues much more aggressive.Yeah we don't have that aggressiveness any more.Is so slow and dull! Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Noodle 9 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Don't see how a player like mikel fits into a team that is planning on playing expansive, attacking, free-flowing football. francozola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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