Clevemayer 764 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 And you've been blocked.Don't understand why you can't get it through your thick skull that I wouldn't have selected Mikel for this game either.Yeah he wasn't needed, neither were Matic. And like I've commented he still had a pretty good game. I would've selecte Lamps and Rambo (first feeling) but after seeing Rambo today, I would've selected Lamps/Matic Lamps/Mikel, because rambo was just awfull.Oscar was anonymous bar that shot at the crossbar in de first half. Bana was awfull. But Mikel has fucked it all up... yeah right... Amblève. and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Mikel showed today we had to admit to admit we fucked up selling Matic and why we had to buy him back Obi was KARP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Mikel showed today we had to admit to admit we fucked up selling Matic and why we had to buy him back Obi was KARPJust would like you Ron to point out in which areas we've been better after MATIC came on in that spot on the field?I really like you, you're a legendary supporter but somtimes your knowledge of football ist quite awful my god old friend... nvm though I admit I like Matic comeing back and it was the right move... zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 dont patronise me kleine junge Clevemayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He should have never started this game. With WHam only sitting back, we could just as well played with no holding midfielder + started Lamps and Luiz. The latter would have come in handy, cos he is so unpredictable. When lamps came on for Mikel the game changed immediately and we actually got chances. Clevemayer and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_juan 64 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The way West ham players were not even bothering to mark him or close him down, rold you everything about how much they think of Mikel. He has started 9 PL games this season and we got 14 pointa in those 9 games. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He should have never started this game. With WHam only sitting back, we could just as well played with no holding midfielder + started Lamps and Luiz. The latter would have come in handy, cos he is so unpredictable. When lamps came on for Mikel the game changed immediately and we actually got chances. He came on for azpilicueta the question is, was it necessary to put matic on the field? He did less then mikel. Lamps for mikel would've had The Same effect, or Lamps for rambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Had a good game just like most our players today. Kept the ball well despite Caroll trying to put pressure on him from behind. Recycled possession well and won most of the clearances, especially in the second half, before moving the ball forward again which is exactly why you need a defensive midfielder against teams that will park the bus. Plus, we needed a physical presence in midfield today. So either him or Matic had to start, and judging by Nemanjas performance when he came on, I'd say he still hasn't found his feet and settled in too well so Jose made the right choice, IMO. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Had a good game just like most our players today. Kept the ball well despite Caroll trying to put pressure on him from behind. Recycled possession well and won most of the clearances, especially in the second half, before moving the ball forward again which is exactly why you need a defensive midfielder against teams that will park the bus.Plus, we needed a physical presence in midfield today. So either him or Matic had to start, and judging by Nemanjas performance when he came on, I'd say he still hasn't found his feet and settled in too well so Jose made the right choice, IMO.you are quite incredible ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 30, 2014 you are quite incredible .....yup... It's called the la la land. No physical presence was needed in midfield. Oscar could've should've played there. You only need physical presence in tight spaces where players are pressurized and can lose possession. Not in the center of the pitch where there is no opposition.Sometimes football is as simple and true as arithmetic: the number of players we committed to attacking wasn't enough. Yes, we might have scored anyway, but the odds of scoring goals would have been higher if we had more attacking players on the pitch, preferably in the starting lineup.Or perhaps we needed more rounded players who do both as opposed to specialized players like Mikel. DDA, zolayes, The only place to be and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 yup... It's called the la la land. No physical presence was needed in midfield. Oscar could've should've played there. You only need physical presence in tight spaces where players are pressurized and can lose possession. Not in the center of the pitch where there is no opposition.Sometimes football is as simple and true as arithmetic: the number of players we committed to attacking wasn't enough. Yes, we could have scored anyway, but the odds of scoring goals would have been higher if we had more attacking players on the pitch, preferably in the starting lineup.Or perhaps we needed more rounded players who do both as opposed to specialized players like Mikel.Mikel contributed NOTHING but dont worry Choulou will provide some stats to prove that without Mikel we would have been Hammered ... DDA, mediator, robsblubot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Seriously needs to stop shooting. Ainsley Harriott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Mikel contributed NOTHING but dont worry Choulou will provide some stats to prove that without Mikel we would have been Hammered ...Haha .. quality post. Could reply to most of the Mikel thread using this as a template! :-) The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 He really should be sold in summer. He has no place in our team anymore. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 GET OUUUTT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Just wasn't needed last night....in fact with the acquisition of Matic, when is he ever needed? He's such a passenger, always has been. At least when Matic came on he tried to do something to help his team win. What a novel idea huh? Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzi 233 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I think he should have a new role with the team, against low tier teams he should never see the field until we secure a lead. However, I think he will play a crucial role against the better squads across all competitions. When we secure a lead we throw in Mikel with Matic and Ramires and it becomes virtually impossible for any team to score on us. IMO this is pretty huge advantage for us, not many teams have the potential combinations that we have in our midfield now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 He played well and shrugged off many West Ham players but the truth was that we did not really require his protection in midfield. Sadly it took Jose a long time to understand that. Clevemayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 yup... It's called the la la land. No physical presence was needed in midfield. Oscar could've should've played there. You only need physical presence in tight spaces where players are pressurized and can lose possession. Not in the center of the pitch where there is no opposition.Sometimes football is as simple and true as arithmetic: the number of players we committed to attacking wasn't enough. Yes, we might have scored anyway, but the odds of scoring goals would have been higher if we had more attacking players on the pitch, preferably in the starting lineup.Or perhaps we needed more rounded players who do both as opposed to specialized players like Mikel.Funny thing is that Jose obviously thought we needed physical presence and a defensive midfielder yesterday or he would have started Rami and Lamps instead. Even when subbed Mikel off he brought Matic on to do the exact same job because Matic can (theoretically) shoot from distance.It's not really a foreign concept to play a defensive midfielder against teams that will defend deep to keep them pinned in. It's used by most top managers in the world. In fact, Italian managers used to bring on another defensive midfielder when they need a goal to win all the clearances and ensure that the opposite teams stays pinned in the final third like Mancini used to do at City.But I guess we are all in la la land... Clevemayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Funny thing is that Jose obviously thought we needed physical presence and a defensive midfielder yesterday or he would have started Rami and Lamps instead. Even when subbed Mikel off he brought Matic on to do the exact same job because Matic can (theoretically) shoot from distance.It's not really a foreign concept to play a defensive midfielder against teams that will defend deep to keep them pinned in. It's used by most top managers in the world. In fact, Italian managers used to bring on another defensive midfielder when they need a goal to win all the clearances and ensure that the opposite teams stays pinned in the final third like Mancini used to do at City.But I guess we are all in la la land... Mancini is not a great example. They were shit last year againt teams that were defending deep.And I would agree with you if we would play a team that would be good at starting counter-attacks like Basel but it's not like West Ham had defenders and midfielders who are good at that.And adding a defensive midfielder is to free up a fullback going full attack, covering for him. But we didn't use attacking fullbacks.I still don't understand why we changed so much our line-up from the Stoke game.william is doing a good job in midfield but in the final third, he's not been that great until now.Azpi offering width on the right, Schurrle making run in the box.5 different players from the stoke game and offering less in attack (Azpi because he's on the left) was way too much.We needed more progressive passing from the pivot and width from the fullbacks in this game. It was the opposite with our line-up.We needed quicker passing from the back and moving the ball from side to side before going for the openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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