🇩🇪 Timo Werner

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Death.

Taxes.

@killer1257 trying to convince everyone that Werner is bad. 

[NikkiCFC 8,320]

15 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I like him, but I think that he is not good enough. To make a comparison. I also like Willian, but I do not think that he is good enough either. That is why I criticise him

Who would be your first choice?

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9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Death.

Taxes.

@killer1257 trying to convince everyone that Werner is bad. 

You'll get fat from so much popcorn, u know?

[Special Juan 28,141]

2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Who would be your first choice?

Vardy probably.

[El P. 1,354]

Don't know if this was posted here already, but here goes:

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4 minutes ago, El P. said:

You'll get fat from so much popcorn, u know?

Fortunately/unfortunately, I'm one of those who can't get fat. 

[killer1257 3,282]

Death.
Taxes.
[mention=6611]killer1257[/mention] trying to convince everyone that Werner is bad. 

My record is not bad though. Since 2010,the only transfers that I misjudged were Bakoyoko and Kovacic. Bakoyoko was based on performances at Monaco and I misjudged Kovacic at Chelsea, so I was against signing him, but other than that, I don't really see a misjudgement from my point after rethinking all the transfers and players we been through since I am a fan of CFC.

Most people here say he is a world class finisher, which is simply not true. He may have other qualities like pace, but Walcott was also fast and it did not help him become World class either. So I am very sceptic. His passing is also not convincing, but Tammys passing is not better either lol.

We will see.


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Just now, killer1257 said:

My record is not bad though. Since 2010,the only transfers that I misjudged were Bakoyoko and Kovacic. Bakoyoko was based on performances at Monaco and I misjudged Kovacic at Chelsea, so I was against signing him, but other than that, I don't really see a misjudgement from my point after rethinking all the transfers and players we been through since I am a fan of CFC.
Most people here say he is a world class finisher, which is simply not true. He may have other qualities like pace, but Walcott was also fast and it did not help him become World class either. So I am very sceptic. His passing is also not convincing, but Tammys passing is not better either lol.
We will see.

If you say so... 

[killer1257 3,282]

Who would be your first choice?

Havertz would have been my dream CF signing. Tall and technically near world class with great passing. He can many positions just like Havertz

But with 60 mio Euros, there is not much eisk involved. Even if he does not perform. Werner still is a big name and we can get more or less the same money back

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8392303/John-Barnes-insists-Jurgen-Klopp-WONT-care-missing-Timo-Werner-Chelsea.html#comments

Disrespectful cunt.....I so hope he scores goals vs pool. What cunts these victims are really.

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He has 31 goals this season and 12 assists in 3181 minutes (equals 35 games). That is end of discussion for me.

[Special Juan 28,141]

John Barnes is a fucking gobshite, typical nose out of joint Scouse tosser.

[killer1257 3,282]

He has 31 goals this season and 12 assists in 3181 minutes (equals 35 games). That is end of discussion for me.

Immobile has 27 league goals and seven assists at Lazio. Werner has 25 goals and seven assists and he played 3 games more than Immobile. Immobile 27% Chance Conversation rate, while Werner has 23% and Tammy 20%.

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I do agree that Werner isnt as great player as his stats say. On the other hand for example Lautaro is miles better than what his stats are.

But Werner is quality still. Just a matter if he will fit into the system. I fully trust Lamps and co to build this young team, in a long time we have a manager that I believe can actualy build a squad. Conte or Mou (second time) might have been better managers but they were both short sighted. Lamps is building slowly but steadly. Mount, James, Tomori, Tammy, RLC, Odoi and all the foreign young players have a good place to develop finaly.

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40 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Immobile has 27 league goals and seven assists at Lazio. Werner has 25 goals and seven assists and he played 3 games more than Immobile. Immobile 27% Chance Conversation rate, while Werner has 23% and Tammy 20%.

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Ciro Immobile is also 6 years older than Werner who hasn't even reached his peak yet and has improved season after season at Leipzig.

Your agenda is so obvious. What happened, Timo shagged your girl or something?

[killer1257 3,282]

Ciro Immobile is also 6 years older than Werner who hasn't even reached his peak yet and has improved season after season at Leipzig.
Your agenda is so obvious. What happened, Timo shagged your girl or something?

Lol, I just care more about Chelsea. That is my agenda. I want the best of the best. I don't see that in Werner and I have given arguments for it.
Instead of giving counter arguments why Werner is a world class player, you just insult me. Most of the times I read that he is a World class finisher. I have proven that this is not the case.

By the way, I also do not want Immobile at Chelsea. Was just an example that looking just at goal stats is not the way to go. He has shown at BVB that he is not good enough either.

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Lol, I just care more about Chelsea. That is my agenda. I want the best of the best. I don't see that in Werner and I have given arguments for it.
Instead of giving counter arguments why Werner is a world class player, you just insult me. Most of the times I read that he is a World class finisher. I have proven that this is not the case.

By the way, I also do not want Immobile at Chelsea. Was just an example that looking just at goal stats is not the way to go. He has shown at BVB that he is not good enough either.

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You are allowed to be sceptical of a signing lol its not like they read the forums and our criticism dents their confidence or something

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Timo Werner – How Chelsea recruit became one of Europe's most feared strikers

In terms of goals-per-minute, Werner currently ranks higher than Lionel Messi, Mohamed Salah and Neymar

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/05/timo-werner-chelsea-recruit-became-one-europes-feared-strikers/

As a man who was once driven to dizziness by the deafening sound of a Turkish home crowd, Timo Werner could hardly have been blamed for being affected by all the noise around his future.

For months now, each week has brought a new rumour about where he might go or which club is leading the race for his signature. Through it all, though, this ruthless 24-year-old has remained focused on underlining his status as one of Europe’s most feared strikers.

Now, at last, the speculation can end. As reported by Telegraph Sport on Thursday night, Werner has agreed to join Chelsea, with Frank Lampard’s side on the brink of tying up a deal reported to be worth around £53 million. Even in these strange times, with transfer fees expected to shrink as a result of the coronavirus crisis, it feels like shrewd business. 

The move to Chelsea caps quite the turnaround for Werner, who not long ago was the most hated player at Germany’s most hated club. RB Leipzig are still widely detested in Germany, but the distaste for Werner has gradually turned into admiration for a striker who appears perfectly suited to the physical demands of the Premier League.

There is a versatility to Werner’s game that makes him such an exciting attacking player: he can run in behind with his speed but he can also operate on the wings or in a deeper forward position. 

“Timo now has a good sense not only of letting himself attack on the wing, but also of going into the No 10 position,” said Julian Nagelsmann, Werner’s coach at Leipzig, after a hat-trick against Mainz last month. “Coupled with his speed, this makes him more variable and more difficult for his opponents to get to grips with him.”

In Europe’s top five leagues, only two players ⁠— Bayern Munich’s Robert Lewandowski and Lazio’s Ciro Immobile ⁠— have scored more league goals than Werner this season. In terms of goals-per-minute, Werner currently ranks higher than Lionel Messi, Mohamed Salah and Neymar. No player in the continent’s leading divisions has scored more than his five goals from “fast breaks”, which highlights his counter-attacking potential.

“He is absolutely rapid, but that is not one of the qualities I would say sticks out the most,” Leipzig’s Tyler Adams told ESPN. “I would say one of the qualities that sticks out the most is how many ways he is able to score: from the right, left, centrally.

“We have played him as a No 10 this year and he is running out of midfield and scoring goals. There are just so many different dynamics that you can fit him in, and that is what makes him such a unique piece.

“If you’re able to score in that many different ways, you’re going to be able to play at the highest level for a very long time, the biggest clubs in the world, for the national team scoring goals.

“He’s a pleasure to play with. Obviously it makes it easy as a midfielder that you can just hit the ball over the top and know that he’s going to catch it, no matter what.”

It is easy to see why it was assumed that Liverpool would be the perfect fit for Werner. He has even said so himself, pointing out that his high-energy style of play would suit Jurgen Klopp’s approach. But Liverpool are understood to have stalled on his release clause, providing Chelsea with an opportunity to make a decisive move this week.

Although he represents a significant loss of talent from the German league, few outside Leipzig will be upset by Werner’s departure. The club’s rapid rise, fuelled by the investment of drinks company Red Bull, has earned them plenty of enemies in their 11 years of existence.

Werner was the first Leipzig player to represent Germany and a national anger was channeled towards him following a dive in December 2016, for which he later apologised. In his second appearance for his country, at the age of 21, he was booed and whistled by his own supporters.

“That is simply not OK,” Joachim Low, the Germany manager, said at the time. Werner added: “People are making a big thing out of it because I play for RB Leipzig.

His reputation was not helped by an extraordinary night in Turkey a few months later, when he asked to be substituted during a Champions League match against Besiktas. The noise of the crowd had left him needing ear plugs, and then he left the pitch feeling dizzy. “As a coach it is important to see who I can rely on in moments like this,” said a scathing Ralph Hasenhuttl, his manager at the time. 

Werner had joined Leipzig from Stuttgart, where he had been prolific at youth level before becoming their youngest ever first-team player at the age of 17. He has struck 92 times in 154 games for Leipzig, and 11 times in 29 international appearances for Germany. 

With numbers like these, and such obvious talent, there is some surprise he has remained at Leipzig this long. He was expected by many to join Bayern Munich last summer before slipping through their grasp. If he can maintain his current form, in a different league and a different team, then Bayern’s loss is sure to be Chelsea’s gain.

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Curious to see how he does here. Hopefully plays through the middle and not shunted wide....

Werner and Ziyech though, two very good signings if you ask me.