Coronaviral

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Craziest part is Covid certificate. Scenario: You are vaccinated and positive on Covid, you can go to clubs, concerts to spread virus, no one cares, but if you are not vaccinated you are not allowed to go because there is a small chance that you may have it lol

They aren't allowed to go because there is a high chance they will contract it. All of these restrictions are to protect the unvaccinated now. 

The unvaccinated person isn't allowed in because they would then be mingling with people who are vaccinated and could have the virus and inadvertently spread it to the person that isn't vaccinated. 

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by MoroccanBlue

[cosmicway 1,333]

About the antivax etc mob.
Are they mostly righties or lefties, what do you think ?
Here in Greece I see both types.
The crazy right wingers who are making sitins inside churches, to protest for the measures against crowding. Also sometimes they smash cellular phones with hammers "to kill the devil Bill Gates residing in them".
The lefties are doing similar things.
This morning I was downtown and I saw lots of political posters with antivax-anticertificate messages. They were from various left wing wordpress blogs all of them.
Only one poster was orthodox left wing and it said "bring 2000 more bus drivers to avoid congestion in the buses". All the others were lefty loonie.

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by cosmicway

[Tomo 21,751]

19 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Go back pages and see the vid about your overcrowded hospitals, they are so overcrowded that the hospital staff all over the world danced their asses all day of boredom and upped it to the net. Dont sit in front of your tele and eat all their shit up. TV2 news of Denmark said 2 weeks ago that all hospitals here were super busy, we went there and it was almost a zombie hospital, they had nothing to do. you want it you take it. I for one wont touch it. Lesson? Come back in 1 year and we will talk about the lesson.

This is the first time in history where the ineffectiveness of a vax is blamed on those whom havent taken it.....unbelievable.

I'm a little confused. At the start you were so frightened about this thing you were adamant football shouldn't even restart, what's changed?

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I love how when experts, data and peer reviewed papers back up many 'conspiracy theorys' people and the media get all political and make ridiculous claims to try and back their narrative instead of rely on the truth, whatever truth that may be.

Science is the world of the unknown, it will take over 10 years for these drugs to be fully researched maybe less as they are turbo charging it all etc.

Im not anti vax at all, just a man of data and science.

Science is not a fixed subject, constantly changing

Einstiens Relatively probably isnt the answer we just dont have anything better yet etc.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-british-tourists-to-be-banned-from-france-amid-rise-in-omicron-cases-12497105

 

Instead of having to be triple vaxxed or provide clear tests theyre just blanket banning all brits haha.

Partly political but at this point it obvious, Even the french dont think the last 2 years of making it up as we go along and dodgy false dawns is working so have banned triple vaxxed etc.

 

Clearly the frogs dont think the vax works esp how they want it to, Lets see if they ban or have still banned flights from SA etc

 

farce!

 

 

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

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Also worth noting how the WHO is speaking to the media right now, They are inducing absolute panic, saying things like it will be worse in the next few weeks and comparable to the start of the pandemic.

 

...Yet theyre controlled by the chinese, The US tried to stop funding the who also but i think they went back with a few paper envelopes.

[cosmicway 1,333]

6 hours ago, Warning_Hazard said:

I love how when experts, data and peer reviewed papers back up many 'conspiracy theorys' people and the media get all political and make ridiculous claims to try and back their narrative instead of rely on the truth, whatever truth that may be.

Science is the world of the unknown, it will take over 10 years for these drugs to be fully researched maybe less as they are turbo charging it all etc.

Im not anti vax at all, just a man of data and science.

Science is not a fixed subject, constantly changing

Einstiens Relatively probably isnt the answer we just dont have anything better yet etc.

Nonsense.
You just have to accept what's best or die.
When I was 9 years old I became ill and they gave me the wrong medicines. I got better but not quite, suffered from after effects as well.
In the end I went to France and the French had a wonder therapy.
But without the drugs they gave me in the first hospital I was going to die - nobody had an idea about the advances taking place elsewhere.

Edited December 16, 2021 by cosmicway

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2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Nonsense.
You just have to accept what's best or die.
When I was 9 years old I became ill and they gave me the wrong medicines. I got better but not quite, suffered from aftereffects.
In the end I went to France and the French had a wonder therapy.
But without the drugs they gave me in the first hospital I was going to die - nobody haf an idea about the advances taking place elsewhere.

0.1% die from covid for a start and comparing completely different drugs and disregarding the fact rna injections are brand new unknowns currently being investigated by multiple labs is the nonsense.

People who have no choice but to take 3 doses or die are dying anyway.

Do some real research on the papers and data and listen to experts on both sides of the argument.

[cosmicway 1,333]

17 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

0.1% die from covid for a start and comparing completely different drugs and disregarding the fact rna injections are brand new unknowns currently being investigated by multiple labs is the nonsense.

People who have no choice but to take 3 doses or die are dying anyway.

Do some real research on the papers and data and listen to experts on both sides of the argument.

You do that.
Let's assume there is no medical protocol for the vaccine so the doctors don't know of cases where the vaccine is not advised  (I mean the real doctors, not the vagabonds you see in the youtube).
This is not quite true but near true - we go by probabilities.
Count the probabilities then, after effects versus terminal covid and versus vaccine failing to protect and see the difference. It's 1 to 1000.

Edited December 16, 2021 by cosmicway

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

6 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Do some real research on the papers and data and listen to experts on both sides of the argument.

You realise only one of the arguments in this two sided debate is actually supported by science, right? Here's a hint, it isn't yours. 

Heart problematics after receiving the vaccine has already been proven to be a cause of underlying conditions as a result of contracting the virus itself. Aguero had Covid twice which has now affected him permanently. Nothing credible supports the notion its the actual vaccine causing these conditions. 

Your way of thinking is why hospitals all around the world are still overcrowded and are genuinely in a crises. Not only that, travel restrictions leaving millions unable to see their families. 

Thank you. 

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3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

You realise only one of the arguments in this two sided debate is actually supported by science, right? Here's a hint, it isn't yours. 

Heart problematics after receiving the vaccine has already been proven to be a cause of underlying conditions as a result of contracting the virus itself. Aguero had Covid twice which has now affected him permanently. Nothing credible supports the notion its the actual vaccine causing these conditions. 

Your way of thinking is why hospitals all around the world are still overcrowded and are genuinely in a crises. Not only that, travel restrictions leaving millions unable to see their families. 

Thank you. 

Ive already linked like 3 different experts and papers on the current situation with the virus and presented solutions.

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3 hours ago, cosmicway said:

You do that.
Let's assume there is no medical protocol for the vaccine so the doctors don't know of cases where the vaccine is not advised  (I mean the real doctors, not the vagabonds you see in the youtube).
This is not quite true but near true - we go by probabilities.
Count the probabilities then, after effects versus terminal covid and versus vaccine failing to protect and see the difference. It's 1 to 1000.

Carry on ignoring the science and evidence.

Deary me.

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[cosmicway 1,333]

27 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Carry on ignoring the science and evidence.

Deary me.

numbers

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

I see some blame unvaccinated players in PL for all these postponed games.

NBA have over 96% of players vaccinated and now 63 players are positive. Many unvaccinated players in this 3-4% cannot even play by state rules like Irving for example.

[Vesper 30,186]

3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

I see some blame unvaccinated players in PL for all these postponed games.

NBA have over 96% of players vaccinated and now 63 players are positive. Many unvaccinated players in this 3-4% cannot even play by state rules like Irving for example.

the only remotely protected (in terms of blocking the Omicron variant completely) are the triple jabbed

there is a huge increase on reduction of transmissibility between the double jabbed and the boostered (triple jabbed)

double jabbed DO, at least have a very very low chance of ending up in the ICU and an even lower chances of dying

Omicron so far also seems to at least be less severe in terms of intensity of illness and death

IF Omicron had the lethality of Beta (the South African variant) the world would be fucked, as it is massively more transmissible (Beta was easily overtaken by Delta due to it (Beta) not being that easy to spread)

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6 hours ago, Vesper said:

the only remotely protected (in terms of blocking the Omicron variant completely) are the triple jabbed

there is a huge increase on reduction of transmissibility between the double jabbed and the boostered (triple jabbed)

double jabbed DO, at least have a very very low chance of ending up in the ICU and an even lower chances of dying

Omicron so far also seems to at least be less severe in terms of intensity of illness and death

IF Omicron had the lethality of Beta (the South African variant) the world would be fucked, as it is massively more transmissible (Beta was easily overtaken by Delta due to it (Beta) not being that easy to spread)

Half of this is misinformation as theres no serious papers/evidence out yet about the omicron varient.

Best thing to do on this forum is to link trusted sources and information.

Also triple jabbed efficacy has dropped to 70% and thats striaght away so after a few months it will drop down to about 50% possibly even 30% like the new scam pills theyre backing whilst ignoring a dozen provable tested clinical solutions.

Also numbers coming out from the US and here in the UK are showing triple jabbed dying almost as much.

You should know exactly whats going on as the head of the talkchelsea treasury with the shares stocks and scams of big pharma.

Listen to some real experts half of which have been cancelled, wonder whyy

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

[Vesper 30,186]

45 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Half of this is misinformation as theres no serious papers/evidence out yet about the omicron varient.

Best thing to do on this forum is to link trusted sources and information.

Also triple jabbed efficacy has dropped to 70% and thats striaght away so after a few months it will drop down to about 50% possibly even 30% like the new scam pills theyre backing whilst ignoring a dozen provable tested clinical solutions.

Also numbers coming out from the US and here in the UK are showing triple jabbed dying almost as much.

You should know exactly whats going on as the head of the talkchelsea treasury with the shares stocks and scams of big pharma.

Listen to some real experts half of which have been cancelled, wonder whyy

 

misinformation ?? LOLOLOL

I have watched you spew the most balatant antivaxxer bollocks on here for months

go FUCK yourself you fucking RW troll

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

misinformation ?? LOLOLOL

I have watched you spew the most balatant antivaxxer bollocks on here for months

go FUCK yourself you fucking RW troll

Yet more abuse when youre clearly wrong, Common theme, how many people have you verbally abused now? ive lost count!

Absolutly love it when you try to bring in politics, Right wing?! thats funny, Even the right wing in the uk aiint right wing i voted lib dem and that was at a push because its all the same.

Ignoring the facts to spew constant rubbish providing no real infomation from any trusted sources!!!

Same old same old haha

Twitter Karen at its finest

Edited December 17, 2021 by Warning_Hazard