Fulham Broadway 17,331 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jase said: He turns 29 next year though, completely different scenario to the De Bruyne and Salah situations. Doesnt mean a different manager could get a lot more out of him though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Doesnt mean a different manager could get a lot more out of him though But he's at his peak age, he's supposed to be the finished article and yet his performances have been inconsistent. If he goes somewhere else and does well, it could be down to several factors why that could be the case, such as the nature of the league for example as opposed to the manager not getting the best out of him. And not to mention, Ziyech has also gotten more chances than De Bruyne and Salah ever did here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,331 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jase said: But he's at his peak age, he's supposed to be the finished article and yet his performances have been inconsistent. If he goes somewhere else and does well, it could be down to several factors why that could be the case, such as the nature of the league for example as opposed to the manager not getting the best out of him. And not to mention, Ziyech has also gotten more chances than De Bruyne and Salah ever did here. Yes if he went somewhere else and did well it would be a right pisser. Thats the risk really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Fulham Broadway said: Yes if he went somewhere else and did well it would be a right pisser. Thats the risk really. Think we'll survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,331 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jase said: Think we'll survive. Well we did when we shifted Malouda - he reminds me of the same attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Fulham Broadway said: Well we did when we shifted Malouda - he reminds me of the same attitude Nothing to suggest that we won't go buy another attacker if we sell Ziyech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,331 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jase said: Nothing to suggest that we won't go buy another attacker if we sell Ziyech. Am sure we will - him scoring yesterday only encouraged Tuchel to say hes still in the last chance saloon effectively, -which is encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Barcelona and Dortmund want him. I think he will do better in Dortmund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fernando said: Barcelona and Dortmund want him. I think he will do better in Dortmund. Club will literally laugh at any loan deal come January. I will reiterate what Matt Law has stated, any player that's played first team football this season will not be leaving in January. The depth we have will be vital for us if we want to end the season successfully. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 He will have important role this season. Delivering constantly in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just watched long 23 minutes highlights. He played part in all 4 goals. Last 5 games: assist against Southampton disallowed goal, hit the post - overall unlucky game against Newcastle only goal against Malmo assist against LC and today only one assist officially but he took corner for Chalobah goal, great little play before RLC/CHO goal... CHO and Ziyech undroppable at the moment. Other 5 players fight for one spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Last 5 games: assist against Southampton he took corner for Chalobah goal They don't count. They came from corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jase said: They don't count. They came from corners. I never said assists from corners don't count I used corners as argument when we spoke about Mount's creativity. Because obviously set piece assists don't show creativity. Just like they don't show Ziyech's creativity but you have good or bad set piece takers. I have been calling for set pieces taker change to happen way before it actually happened (after Arsenal game in round 36) and since then we scored 7 goals after corners (6 this season). With MM that percentage was tremendously lower. Also I don't think Ziyech is best taker. He should be 3rd after Chilwell and James.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Hes miserable here. Even when he scores he isnt happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Can we get a refund from Ajax... mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 First time since TT is here Hakim started 3 PL games in a row. With Frank also just once he had 4 starts in a row. Apart from that never more than two. Tbh he was never given run of games. His return in Chelsea is actually very solid considering this: 12g 8a in 3381 mins (minutes equal to 37,5 games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimmas 131 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) His best performance for us so far. Credit to him And for me, it is his best goal from him Able to position himself very nicely around the box, find enough space and time to make some calculated shoot, really calm, try to curved the ball and really depend so much with his technique on the ball. And he just curved it brilliantly. Excellent goal But apart from that, i noticed in this match, on numerous time he able to find himself enough space and time, to give some nice and meaningful forward pass and occasionally offer some actual threat. While on the other matches, too often, he just very one dimensional, lack of ideas, isolated, and anytime when he tried to do anything with the ball, feels like desperate and hopeless attempt. Sad to see In this match, the way he play and also how his teammates operates around him, actually encouraging. I hope that is something tuchel try to implement and build. Not just randomly happened, or because spurs just embarassingly poor Edited January 24, 2022 by dimmas blues.bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 4 PL starts in a row. Scored in last 3. In October and November 2020 is the only time here he also started 4 PL games in a row. Had 2g and 2a. Apart from that he never started more than 2 PL games in a row in almost 2 seasons. Very easy to see here that he was never a problem but managers who did not gave him time he needed. One or two games without contribution and he was benched right away. This was never the case with some others. Plus he clearly looks better with this system when we play 4atb with wingers. This could be a problem with some other attackers as well. And his return is quite good. 6g 4a last season in 1900 mins. 7g 4a this season in 1800 mins. This is less minutes together than Mount and Werner played just last season.  Edited February 20, 2022 by NikkiCFC Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdo 583 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Honestly wondering what we should do with Ziyech, he had great moments and very bad ones this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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