Jadon Sancho

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7 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

I still expect Sancho to end up in PL next season.  

If Dortmund sell Sancho this summer, then I can't see them selling Haaland as well, unless they don't qualify for the Champions League. 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

If Dortmund sell Sancho this summer, then I can't see them selling Haaland as well, unless they don't qualify for the Champions League. 

Agree, i don't expect Dortmund to sell Haaland this summer. 

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1 minute ago, Blues Forever said:

Agree, i don't expect Dortmund to sell Haaland this summer. 

Dortmund are really in a tricky position with Haaland. Try to sell him this summer and they could potentially get over 100 million for him, assuming someone is willing to pay that money. If not, then Haaland's release clause of just under 70 million euros (IIRC) will activate next summer. 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Dortmund are really in a tricky position with Haaland. Try to sell him this summer and they could potentially get over 100 million for him, assuming someone is willing to pay that money. If not, then Haaland's release clause of just under 70 million euros (IIRC) will activate next summer. 

According to bild Haaland release clause is actually around €100m. No idea what is the real amount since Ruhr Nachricten (Dortmund mouthpiece) also didn't mention it.

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On 18/03/2021 at 14:30, Jason said:

Dortmund are really in a tricky position with Haaland. Try to sell him this summer and they could potentially get over 100 million for him, assuming someone is willing to pay that money. If not, then Haaland's release clause of just under 70 million euros (IIRC) will activate next summer. 

I think a lot depends on whether Dortmund qualify for the CL or not. Of they do not I see one or both or Sancho and Haaland being sold. 

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1 hour ago, King Kante said:

I think a lot depends on whether Dortmund qualify for the CL or not. Of they do not I see one or both or Sancho and Haaland being sold. 

But who's gonna buy them?

Only United were seriously interested in Sancho last summer. Are there more clubs suddenly interested now? Even United seem to have cooled interest in him.

Haaland could of course be sold but if Dortmund stick to their asking price, will anyone pay that kind of money for him? 

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

But who's gonna buy them?

Only United were seriously interested in Sancho last summer. Are there more clubs suddenly interested now? Even United seem to have cooled interest in him.

Haaland could of course be sold but if Dortmund stick to their asking price, will anyone pay that kind of money for him? 

With no CL Dortmund would need to start to get more realistic. 

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3 minutes ago, King Kante said:

With no CL Dortmund would need to start to get more realistic. 

They are taking a financial hit, like every other club, but not sure they're in a desperate financial situation that they have to sell their best players if they don't qualify. Am sure Dortmund are aware that they might not qualify for the Champions League when they set their Haaland price tag, assuming it's true.

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Any rumours of us going in for him? I assume his price won't be as big as last year and we have some good players Dortmund might be interested in.

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

They are taking a financial hit, like every other club, but not sure they're in a desperate financial situation that they have to sell their best players if they don't qualify. Am sure Dortmund are aware that they might not qualify for the Champions League when they set their Haaland price tag, assuming it's true.

Personally, I do not believe the price tag. The reason for this is due to his buyout. Now I know there are rumours going around his (Håland's) buyout isn't a thing but I am not buying that as otherwise all of Europe's top clubs would've been all over him last season when he left Salzburg. That consequently caps his price this season as the next he is going to leave. 

That gives Dortmund two choices, take €100-110m now or keep him for a extra season (potentially without CL) and lose the next for €65-70m. 

If they get CL they may be able to push the price up or keep hold, but without it they'll need to plug the gap, as they are the type of team that balance the books. 

As for Sancho, they probably should've taken the money last summer as his value is less now. I reckon this will also be considered when it comes to Håland. 

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16 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Personally, I do not believe the price tag. The reason for this is due to his buyout. Now I know there are rumours going around his (Håland's) buyout isn't a thing but I am not buying that as otherwise all of Europe's top clubs would've been all over him last season when he left Salzburg. That consequently caps his price this season as the next he is going to leave. 

That gives Dortmund two choices, take €100-110m now or keep him for a extra season (potentially without CL) and lose the next for €65-70m. 

If they get CL they may be able to push the price up or keep hold, but without it they'll need to plug the gap, as they are the type of team that balance the books. 

I think Dortmund are prepared to take the hit with selling Haaland for cheaper next season. They can use him to make sure they have a good chance of qualifying for Champions League in 2021/22 season. Otherwise, no guarantee they can find a replacement with similar output. And this is the same club after all that didn't sell Lewandowski to Bayern in 2013, let him run down the final year of his contract and ended up losing him for free.

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56 minutes ago, King Kante said:

 

 

 

As for Sancho, they probably should've taken the money last summer as his value is less now. I reckon this will also be considered when it comes to Håland. 

2019/20 

3300 minutes 20 goals 20 assists

2020/21

tracking to 16/17 goals, 21/22 assists on a worse team

in 3300 minutes

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13 hours ago, Vesper said:

2019/20 

3300 minutes 20 goals 20 assists

2020/21

tracking to 16/17 goals, 21/22 assists on a worse team

in 3300 minutes

The problem is the market seems even more depressed than last summer. Additionally he has a year less and whilst his stats are on track to be similar, he hasn't shown much improvement from last season. That affects his price in the sense that some may worry his peak level isn't going to be as high as it looked it could reach last summer. 

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14 hours ago, Jason said:

I think Dortmund are prepared to take the hit with selling Haaland for cheaper next season. They can use him to make sure they have a good chance of qualifying for Champions League in 2021/22 season. Otherwise, no guarantee they can find a replacement with similar output. And this is the same club after all that didn't sell Lewandowski to Bayern in 2013, let him run down the final year of his contract and ended up losing him for free.

Let's see. For Dortmund it is a case of selling Håland this Summer or next. He is going either way.

If they do get CL then for sure, I think there is a good chance he stays, if not I think there is a good chance he leaves. This is because: 

 1) they will have to take a serious hit on his fee next season if they keep as his value will never be higher owing to his buyout.

2 ) I am not sure he would be happy to not play in the CL as he knows he only has a year left there so it is not as if it is going to be a one year blip in a 5 year+ plan.

3 ) if he isn't sold Dortmund will have to sell other players / not be able to buy better players. If they do not qualify this year, with there current crop, then there is no guarantee, even with Håland, that they qualify next, especially with a weaker side. 

For me, if Dortmund do not get CL there is very little chance Håland stays, if they do, it will increase their chances as they have more ability to ask for a ridiculous fee and can take a hit owing to ongoing CL finances. 

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30 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Let's see. For Dortmund it is a case of selling Håland this Summer or next. He is going either way.

If they do get CL then for sure, I think there is a good chance he stays, if not I think there is a good chance he leaves. This is because: 

 1) they will have to take a serious hit on his fee next season if they keep as his value will never be higher owing to his buyout.

2 ) I am not sure he would be happy to not play in the CL as he knows he only has a year left there so it is not as if it is going to be a one year blip in a 5 year+ plan.

3 ) if he isn't sold Dortmund will have to sell other players / not be able to buy better players. If they do not qualify this year, with there current crop, then there is no guarantee, even with Håland, that they qualify next, especially with a weaker side. 

For me, if Dortmund do not get CL there is very little chance Håland stays, if they do, it will increase their chances as they have more ability to ask for a ridiculous fee and can take a hit owing to ongoing CL finances. 

That Haaland will leave this summer or next summer is clear.

The point is Dortmund would prefer to sell him next summer and are seemingly willing to take the hit from his price fee, even if they qualify for the Champions League this season. So what's to say that they can't or won't do the same if they don't qualify?

Would Dortmund necessarily be weaker if they have to sell 1-2 players not named Haaland? It feels like they have had a similar issue as us. They lost their way under Favre and then hired an inexperienced interim manager who has failed to provide any sort of improvement. Who knows if they could get back to their old levels under Marco Rose, who of course was Haaland's former manager at Salzburg.