closed Valencia 2-2 Chelsea

[1905didierblue 748]

3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

You didn't have anything to say on City match? 🤔

Started brilliantly, were the better team by a mile for 30min. Let a stupid goal, and never recovered, which is to be expected with a young team in a big game.

Did not have anything "to say", given the over reactions on here which is expected after every defeat. I mean after 2 games, Tammy was a "championship level striker" so I tend to stay away from this toxic place after a defeat whefe the "fans" seem to think we need a ST, RW, LB, dmf, 2 cbs, rb to be competitive next season. 😂

[milka 3,393]

Please - without Liga Europa this  season . Thanks 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

6 hours ago, milka said:

Please - without Liga Europa this  season . Thanks 

Ohh please no, fuck EL. Its below us, cant stand being in it. We have won it twice, its enough.

This game is a must win....or at least we cant lose it or we will be dumped in EL.

[Jase 43,479]

Feeling very nervous and afraid of this match because of the permutations/possible repercussion if we don’t pick up a result here. 😰

[Milan 17,958]

Rudiger (!) and Barkley trained with the squad today, CHO did not.

[Jase 43,479]

17 minutes ago, milan.cech said:

Rudiger (!) and Barkley trained with the squad today, CHO did not.

Barkley could be dropped apparently due to his off the field shenanigan last week.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Absolute clown.

[Jase 43,479]

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2019/11/26/chelsea-arrive-in-valencia-ahead-of-crucial-champions-league-out

Barkley, Alonso, Rudiger and CHO didn't travel with the squad to Valencia. All left at home. 

[milka 3,393]

Then : 

(4-3-3)
Kepa , Azpi , Tomori  , Zouma , Emerson , Jorginho , Kovacic , Kante , Mount , Willian , Abraham 

(4-2-3-1)

Kepa, Azpi , Tomori , Zouma , Emerson , Jorginho , Kante , Pulisic , Mount , Willian,  Abraham 

[Jase 43,479]

Hmmm...

[Jase 43,479]

15 minutes ago, milka said:

Then : 

(4-3-3)
Kepa , Azpi , Tomori  , Zouma , Emerson , Jorginho , Kovacic , Kante , Mount , Willian , Abraham 

(4-2-3-1)

Kepa, Azpi , Tomori , Zouma , Emerson , Jorginho , Kante , Pulisic , Mount , Willian,  Abraham 

Lampard said "it's a must not lose" game in his presser, which seems to suggest that he might take a pragmatic approach. Could see the 4-3-3 you suggest there. 

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

More experience needed here. Christensen must start and I have nothing against Giroud starting. 

[Vesper 30,184]

Valencia injuries

[Vesper 30,184]

They are missing a lot

their best CB by far in Mouctar Diakhaby

a decent veteran backup CB in Ezequiel Garay

their best RB in Cristiano Piccini

their staring DMF in Coquelin

a starting real quality CMF in Geoffrey Kondogbia    

and both their LW'ers in Gonçalo Guedes  and Denis Cheryshev  

 

their best players (and all of these are really decent, some are world class (in bold) left are

GK Jasper Cillessen   
CB Gabriel Paulista    
LB José Gayà (top 3 LB in the world)   
RB (but may play MF) Daniel Wass   
CMF Dani Parejo <<< their captain, great player for ages    
AMF Carlos Soler    
RW  Ferran Torres <<<< huge potential  
CF Rodrigo  
CF Maxi Gómez    <<<< great backup, real quality, would start for 90% of teams

[killer1257 3,282]

They are missing a lot
their best CB by far in Mouctar Diakhaby
a decent veteran backup CB in Ezequiel Garay
their best RB in Cristiano Piccini
their staring DMF in Coquelin
a starting real quality CMF in Geoffrey Kondogbia    

and both their LW'ers in Gonçalo Guedes  and Denis Cheryshev  
 
their best players (and all of these are really decent, some are world class (in bold) left are

GK Jasper Cillessen   
CB Gabriel Paulista    
LB José Gayà (top 3 LB in the world)   
RB (but may play MF) Daniel Wass   
CMF Dani Parejo AMF Carlos Soler    
RW  Ferran Torres CF Rodrigo  
CF Maxi Gómez   

Gayas stats are not that impressive. Emersons Defense stats are better if I remember correctly and Emerson plays in a superior league.

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2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Gayas stats are not that impressive. Emersons Defense stats are better if I remember correctly and Emerson plays in a superior league.

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sometimes stats flatter to deceive, Gaya is streets ahead of Emerson as a LB, it is not remotely close

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7 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Gayas stats are not that impressive. Emersons Defense stats are better if I remember correctly and Emerson plays in a superior league.

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it is hard to tell, but are you actually satisfied with our LB situation?

Emerson was horrific v Shitty (and in other games too, and Alonso, well enough said there)

I think we are fucked there more than any other position by far (as long as Reece comes good at RB)

[killer1257 3,282]

sometimes stats flatter to deceive, Gaya is streets ahead of Emerson as a LB, it is not remotely close

Still tackling rates should be higher than Emersons due to the fact that he plays most of the time not high quality wingers compared to PL defenders.Also his attacking stats are not that impressive. Looks to me like a Jordi Alba who for me is not a World class FB


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1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

Still tackling rates should be higher than Emersons due to the fact that he plays most of the time not high quality wingers compared to PL defenders.Also his attacking stats are not that impressive. Looks to me like a Jordi Alba who for me is not a World class FB


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Jordi Alba, until this year (age is catching up) has been a top 2 or 3 LB in the world for years, he has been a crazy weapon for Barca for ages

do you even watch the players in other leagues?

just looking at stat sheets is not enough at all

 

[killer1257 3,282]

it is hard to tell, but are you actually satisfied with our LB situation?
Emerson was horrific v Shitty (and in other games too, and Alonso, well enough said there)
I think we are fucked there more than any other position by far (as long as Reece comes good at RB)

I think that we probably need to improve LB because Alonso is not that good,but I actually rate Emerson because he actually is a pretty good tackler, especially before his injury. After his hamstring injury, he seems a little bit rusty, but that can happen. Offensive wise, Emerson was pretty good before his injury too. Obviously against Man City, Mahrez destroyed him after that dribbling but Kovacic could have done better too. I would say if Emerson does not get to his best form til end of Season, then we may have a Problem, but I expect Emerson to be back to a Good form.
He handled Salah in the super cup quite easily and was impressive going forward. He just lost some form.

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