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Man of the Match  

25 members have voted

  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Kepa
      0
    • Azpilicueta
      4
    • Zouma
      1
    • Tomori
      1
    • Alonso
      0
    • Jorginho
      7
    • Kovacic
      2
    • Mount
      1
    • Willian
      0
    • Hudson-Odoi
      0
    • Abraham
      0
    • Pulisic (sub)
      9
    • Batshuayi (sub)
      0
    • James (sub)
      0


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12 hours ago, Tomo said:

Although last night was our turn to benefit I am firmly against goals being called back for minor offsides. Imagine scoring what you think is a late leading goal in the CL final only for it to be chalked off due to a players bulge being slightly offside? It would instantly deflate the team.

Offside was invented to prevent goal hanging not this. Call up clear and obvious offsides (like for example Van Persie at Stamford Bridge that time) and leave it be.

Yes - Maybe they can introduce a margin for error 

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12 hours ago, Panic said:

What exactly is a clear and obvious offside call, though?

If you need to move the picture frame by frame and draw some lines to determine if it was off or not, then it's not obvious, then they are level and benefit should be played to attacker.

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6 minutes ago, manpe said:

If you need to move the picture frame by frame and draw some lines to determine if it was off or not, then it's not obvious, then they are level and benefit should be played to attacker.

Unfortunately the term 'benefit to the attacker' has now been completely wiped away with VAR

Football and it's landscape has completely change now VAR is here.

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12 hours ago, manpe said:

If you need to move the picture frame by frame and draw some lines to determine if it was off or not, then it's not obvious, then they are level and benefit should be played to attacker.

The problem with your suggestion is that what is "obvious" can vary. Two people can look at the same real-time footage and come to a different conclusion. As a result, frame by frame analysis is needed to bring precision, which results in less variation in calls. I would also like you to consider two scenarios. In the first, a player is standing 20cm offside; we can determine this to be offside without using a frame by frame analysis. Perfect. Now let's consider a scenario where a player is sprinting to make a run behind the defense.It is reasonable for a sprinting player run  20cm offside, the same distance as the static attacker, yet you would need to look frame by frame to determine whether he is offside. In both scenarios we have players offside by the same margin yet different calls would be made. Is this a desirable outcome? I don't think so, maybe you do?

In my opinion, the most compelling argument against VAR is that the margin of error can by quite high because of how quickly players move. If a player is running at full sprint they can cover ~40cm in between frames. There are various factors that can decrease or increase this margin of error, such as a having a moving attacker vs a static defender, or a moving attacker and moving defender, etc. If you change the way VAR works, it needs to be done by including margin of errors, if we can accurately determine them. 

 

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