Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) I wouldn't loan him out.the injury he had and Tuchel needing to steady the ship and catch up as much as possible I think were the factors in him not playing enough this last season.he's ahead of the curve,mature beyond his years like Reece is although could argue mental understanding of the game Billy is ahead of RJ as RJ can find himself out of position when defending and his pace helps him recover.Billy is probably the most football mature teenage player we've had since Ray Wilkins. He'll get more time with us next season. Edited June 20, 2021 by Duppy Conqueror Vesper and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Graeme Souness says national team should be built around Chelsea playmaker for next decade https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/news/graeme-souness-says-national-team-should-be-built-around-Chelsea-playmaker-for-next-decade/ bigbluewillie and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Strike said: He's a baller though. MOTM in his first FA Cup, Premier League and now Scotland game. He seems to have an appetite to be always involved on the ball. To put regularly good performances, he needs to get regular games. If Tuchel decides to, he can split the game time between Jorgi and Billy - Billy is ready for the games vs lower Premier League opposition. Only reason for a loan is if we sign a DM - Rice/Tchouameni or Locatelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Scottish FA have confirmed that Billy Gilmour has tested positive for Covid. Fucking pandemic man Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Crikey! Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Jas said: Crikey! bye bye sweaties, Croatian MF will crush them it must be the Delta variant, it is running riot in so many places Edited June 21, 2021 by Vesper bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Whenever he starts performing, he gets injured or gets Covid. We might have the new RLC here. Johnnyeye, Vesper and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 "An enormous blow for him and what a blow for the nation" Graeme Souness gives his reaction after Chelsea's Billy Gilmour is ruled out of #SCO's game against #CRO after testing positive for Covid-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Not to sound ignorant, but how on earth are footballers still not vaccinated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Not to sound ignorant, but how on earth are footballers still not vaccinated? Not so sure. I know theres a huge issue with the supply of the vaccine in the UK or has been at times periodically but surely you’d of thought clubs would have looked into it but I suppose they probably couldn’t pull rank for it ahead of other folk and rightfully so. Even then, you can still be vaccinated and carry it. I could be wrong but I am sure the vaccine only negates someone suffering from the side effects of the virus as opposed to outright carrying it? It does lower the transmission rate also but doesn’t fully stop it being transmitted either to unvaccinated folk either. There will be someone who knows more than I do who can maybe but I am sure I read that somewhere. Edited June 21, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Not so sure. I know theres a huge issue with the supply of the vaccine in the UK or has been at times periodically but surely you’d of thought clubs would have looked into it but I suppose they probably couldn’t pull rank for it ahead of other folk and rightfully so. Even then, you can still be vaccinated and carry it. I could be wrong but I am sure the vaccine only negates someone suffering from the side effects of the virus as opposed to outright carrying it? It does lower the transmission rate also but doesn’t fully stop it being transmitted either to unvaccinated folk either. There will be someone who knows more than I do who can maybe but I am sure I read that somewhere. Wasn't it because he was 19 and so he was in a lower category and wasn't classed as someone who met the criteria to take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, King Kante said: Wasn't it because he was 19 and so he was in a lower category and wasn't classed as someone who met the criteria to take it? Aye this has to be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, King Kante said: Wasn't it because he was 19 and so he was in a lower category and wasn't classed as someone who met the criteria to take it? Not sure on the ins and outs for athletes but I don’t think there is a criteria to not take it so to speak. For sure now, its much more of a personal choice now as the governments are all encouraging folk to get them and obviously there is the conspiracy theories claiming “microchipping” or whatever things people will believe but I doubt footballers are really that daft (although could be wrong…) 😂 They did prioritise older age groups or folk with existing health problems or who were more vulnerable due to their age and also NHS staff, who were more susceptible to being at risk due to being exposed to personnel with it at the beginning. I mean professional athletes/elite sportsmen&women are in bubbles (or should be) as per the government’s guidelines and their relevant countries & footballing associations so obviously they should be less exposed if these are any good but you’d still think they’d still want their players and staff to get vaccines but obviously I doubt its in their hands, more the individuals themselves. I don’t think being a footballer would accelerate getting the vaccine though. It seemed more an age or health condition thing in terms of priority. If it were possible you’d have thought clubs and national teams would have asked players to get vaccinated as soon as they could do so but even then you can still get it, not show symptoms and give it to someone who isn’t vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Not sure on the ins and outs for athletes but I don’t think there is a criteria to not take it so to speak. For sure now, its much more of a personal choice now as the governments are all encouraging folk to get them and obviously there is the conspiracy theories claiming “microchipping” or whatever things people will believe but I doubt footballers are really that daft (although could be wrong…) 😂 They did prioritise older age groups or folk with existing health problems or who were more vulnerable due to their age and also NHS staff, who were more susceptible to being at risk due to being exposed to personnel with it at the beginning. I mean professional athletes/elite sportsmen&women are in bubbles (or should be) as per the government’s guidelines and their relevant countries & footballing associations so obviously they should be less exposed if these are any good but you’d still think they’d still want their players and staff to get vaccines but obviously I doubt its in their hands, more the individuals themselves. I don’t think being a footballer would accelerate getting the vaccine though. It seemed more an age or health condition thing in terms of priority. If it were possible you’d have thought clubs and national teams would have asked players to get vaccinated as soon as they could do so but even then you can still get it, not show symptoms and give it to someone who isn’t vaccinated. IIRC, I saw the news that Italy got vaccinated prior to the Euros while Spain were fast tracked for vaccination after Busquets' positive case before the tournament. Not sure if other sides have gotten vaccinated but don't think all have been. Athletes are also getting vaccinated before they travel to the Olympics in Japan. So, it's not out of the question that maybe the players should have been vaccinated before the Euros, especially when it's taking place in so many countries and teams have to travel from country to country. EDIT: Yup, Italy and Spain did get vaccinated before the Euros. https://apnews.com/article/premier-league-ciro-immobile-europe-italy-health-6c57bf8ad24c95c9eb682d2c295a4b44 https://theathletic.com/news/spain-euro-2020-squad-coronavirus-vaccinations/LWD6LxS7CDlx OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Not sure on the ins and outs for athletes but I don’t think there is a criteria to not take it so to speak. For sure now, its much more of a personal choice now as the governments are all encouraging folk to get them and obviously there is the conspiracy theories claiming “microchipping” or whatever things people will believe but I doubt footballers are really that daft (although could be wrong…) 😂 They did prioritise older age groups or folk with existing health problems or who were more vulnerable due to their age and also NHS staff, who were more susceptible to being at risk due to being exposed to personnel with it at the beginning. I mean professional athletes/elite sportsmen&women are in bubbles (or should be) as per the government’s guidelines and their relevant countries & footballing associations so obviously they should be less exposed if these are any good but you’d still think they’d still want their players and staff to get vaccines but obviously I doubt its in their hands, more the individuals themselves. I don’t think being a footballer would accelerate getting the vaccine though. It seemed more an age or health condition thing in terms of priority. If it were possible you’d have thought clubs and national teams would have asked players to get vaccinated as soon as they could do so but even then you can still get it, not show symptoms and give it to someone who isn’t vaccinated. In the UK, older teens have only been getting a vaccine for one or two weeks (correct me if I am wrong someone) and I am pretty sure athletes do not have priority. Obviously he probably could have had it in that time but it may have been too late anyway. Furthermore, Scotland are based in the UK and are very likely not to play a game outside of the UK (they're going out tomorrow) so I can imagine, with the short window he had, he and Scotland/his team thought get it after the Euros in case you're one of the very unlucky ones who has a side effect. Sounds pretty likely and logical to me. I think he has just been a bit unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, King Kante said: In the UK, older teens have only been getting a vaccine for one or two weeks (correct me if I am wrong someone) and I am pretty sure athletes do not have priority. Obviously he probably could have had it in that time but it may have been too late anyway. Furthermore, Scotland are based in the UK and are very likely not to play a game outside of the UK (they're going out tomorrow) so I can imagine, with the short window he had, he and Scotland/his team thought get it after the Euros in case you're one of the very unlucky ones who has a side effect. Sounds pretty likely and logical to me. I think he has just been a bit unlucky. Yeah not sure what deal is in England, Wales, Ireland & N Ireland but up here think they’re finally getting round to early-mid 20s depending on area. Maybe last month or 3 weeks or so. Is unlucky and don't to go all Roy Keane on about the situation but surely could have been avoidable for Mount and Chilwell. although, maybe not. Not seen a great deal of players embracing like that in other games. Except for the Belgium Denmark game on 10th minute. Although yeah its a weird one haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 The vaccination situation is weird indeed. UK are relatively advanced in the vaccination campaign so i wonder whether footballers are not priority group 3. I got my vaccinated despite being priority group 3/4 a few days after calling my doc shortly before the prioritisation was abandoned. Surely someone must have thought of that before the euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: The vaccination situation is weird indeed. UK are relatively advanced in the vaccination campaign so i wonder whether footballers are not priority group 3. I got my vaccinated despite being priority group 3/4 a few days after calling my doc shortly before the prioritisation was abandoned. Surely someone must have thought of that before the euros. If people were thinking they would've done the logical thing and moved the Euros to one country. Either pick one country that was hosting this year or give it to Germany and have this ridiculous one where everyone one is travelling around in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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