Super Frank Thread

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Tomo said:

Second half against West Ham fair enough but Everton was lost due to dire finishing. We should have ended that game by half time.

Did we create much in that Everton game? We made so many stupid mistakes at the back and got physically overrun by them. 

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3 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Uniteds Trust to Ole is paying off because their fans love him and the Board trusts him

Not true, before their recent wins they all wanted him out......he only has to hit another patch of dire results and he is likely gone. Especially with Poch around.

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Just now, Vesper said:

only plastic I see is you with the fake poutrage over someone else's clearly laid out opinion

you are the typical keyboard commando who has to slag anyone who dares to have an dissenting point of view

unlike you I never get on here and slag off people personally for some opinion they have about the club 

PPlastic? Hahahaha. Do you understand the meaning of the word plastic. 

You, the person who wants our manager sacked without even giving him a whole year is calling someone else plastic.

The same person who writes up the same shit "transfer" deals as if its a child's job to do without having any actual knowledge of the accounts or the fact that there are other clubs and aprties involved too. "If marina cant get this done, she knows nothing" LOLOLOL.

I might be a keyboard commando, but I would still say the same thing face to face with anyone saying that we should sack lamps. Unlike some people my love for the club and its personnel is not based on us winning.

Moreover, I understand what this season represents, which is transition. Transition from being a defensive team to attacking unit. Transition from a team based out of roman's wallet to using the youth and academy. And hence willing to (understandably) giving lamps the time, specially when the squad it so short-handed. But most of these things wont be understandable to a plastic like you.

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Most worrying things.

No matter who we play iin the back four the defence is a total shambles and it looks like Frank and Jody have no idea what to do about it. Even against the poorest teams the defence shits itself anytime a ball is played into the box. Some of the scrambles today were non league level comedy defending. 

However, the most worrying thing is seeing rubbish teams simply fight harder than us. I can forgive our players not being good enough (we need a mass overall because most are not good enough) or players being off form, but not fighting hard enough is unacceptable st any pro level and that's happened against West Ham, Everton and today..

The players look mentally and physicallly flat. Are they being overtrained?  There's got to be a reason for almost the entire team playing so far below their best and not working hard enough. Whatever is going on both manager and players have to do much better than this! 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Sacking him now will not end well.....it would be unfair. But letting him lose every match till may and still have him around as manager is in no shape or form a good idea. Roman will bring his war axe long before that in that case.

Of course it was an exaggeration, just like the exaggerated post of the other person. 

Mate, even thinking of lamps getting the sack right now is unbelievable. I seriously cant even understand why he is the one disposable for people when we have 5-10 players in the squad that need to either be sold or upgraded. The fact that people are calling for his head right now, is shameful to say the least.

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Just now, killer1257 said:

Like I said I think long term and you seem to not think that way.

Uniteds Trust to Ole is paying off because their fans love him and the Board trusts him. Now he has a top class attack and his Defense looks better. You would have already sacked him.

I already mentioned Pools Trust and love for Klopp and they also think long term.

People here think that Lamps job is easy, but in all fairness to y'all, it is one hell a job.The Chelsea job itself is hard, but these players, many injuries, no fucking Hazard and a Transfer ban, it is horrible.
there is a reason why Pep Never Wanted to come to us. He would have needed a whole new Squad.

I Trust in Lamps and I will give him two Transfer Windows, so he can implement his style. I hope our Board gives him some Good Signings.






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I have done nothing but think in terms of the long term even horizon since I joined this board

I am all out the long view and active proactively

if he go complete shamble and trash our season, we will have a very hard time recruiting certain levels of players

missing ALL Europe for next year would be shambles in my book (Wolves and Leicester (pretty much a lock at this point as they have a 10 poit lead now, although it could have been 12) above us, along with the other 5 traditional powers does just that)

it crushes our revenue and makes it very hard to recruit players off teams that do have Europe (especially CL)

Spuds is obviously a HUGE game

but the 2 bigger ones are against Arse

win those (and do NOT fuck up verses shit teams)

and we should get 7th at worst

 

[Tomo 21,751]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Did we create much in that Everton game? We made so many stupid mistakes at the back and got physically overrun by them. 

Tammy failed to connect to two tap ins, Willian had another but somehow let the defender come goal side of him, we had a three on one that turned into three on five due to dillying with it. Mount and Willian had two other big chances.

I very much put that defeat down to finishing, we opened Everton up constantly between their first two goals.

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Started this season well (apart from the defensive mistakes), then started missing chance after chance, then everyone gets frustrated and game turns to shit. Just like last season

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14 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

PPlastic? Hahahaha. Do you understand the meaning of the word plastic. 

You, the person who wants our manager sacked without even giving him a whole year is calling someone else plastic.

The same person who writes up the same shit "transfer" deals as if its a child's job to do without having any actual knowledge of the accounts or the fact that there are other clubs and aprties involved too. "If marina cant get this done, she knows nothing" LOLOLOL.

I might be a keyboard commando, but I would still say the same thing face to face with anyone saying that we should sack lamps. Unlike some people my love for the club and its personnel is not based on us winning.

Moreover, I understand what this season represents, which is transition. Transition from being a defensive team to attacking unit. Transition from a team based out of roman's wallet to using the youth and academy. And hence willing to (understandably) giving lamps the time, specially when the squad it so short-handed. But most of these things wont be understandable to a plastic like you.

what a pile of rot

you twist words, insult me on most every exchange

I fucking damn well know what plastic is,

AND I AM NOT IT

so sod off with that condescending tosh

I laid out very specific chains of events

and NO MANAGER GETS A FULL YEAR NO MATTER WHAT THE RESULTS ARE

you posit that he is safe no matter what transpires

that is delusional

you can spin it anyway you want

but it is

 

on edit

you know literally fuckall about the market

and what can and cannot be done

you consistently have typed pure lies about monies and future forward flows of rolling year over year balance sheets

 

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Tammy failed to connect to two tap ins, Willian had another but somehow let the defender come goal side of him, we had a three on one that turned into three on five due to dillying with it. Mount and Willian had two other big chances.

I very much put that defeat down to finishing, we opened Everton up constantly between their first two goals.

Well, seems like we were watching different game or I need to watch it again but the overriding fact from the game is we made stupid defensive mistakes and got bullied all over the pitch. 

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5 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

Of course it was an exaggeration, just like the exaggerated post of the other person. 

Mate, even thinking of lamps getting the sack right now is unbelievable. I seriously cant even understand why he is the one disposable for people when we have 5-10 players in the squad that need to either be sold or upgraded. The fact that people are calling for his head right now, is shameful to say the least.

What can I say my friend, we all have our views......we are all passionate and want the best for this Club. We could def do without calling eachother all sorts just beacuse of opinions. He wont be sacked, but there is no denying we have gone horrible and flat. Subs are below par, lineups too. The fight and desire not there, the defence keep looking like children vs anyone. Shit teams out of form showing more energy and hunger etc......he has his hands full and he knows it.

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