🇺🇸 Christian Pulisic

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

It will be interesting to see if Genoa really does offer 45M pounds in January, If Chelsea sells.

[LAM09 7,051]

37 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

It will be interesting to see if Genoa really does offer 45M pounds in January, If Chelsea sells.

I doubt we'll sell anyone in the middle of the season.

Edited November 9, 2021 by LAM09

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

It will be interesting to see if Genoa really does offer 45M pounds in January, If Chelsea sells.

Genoa 45m pounds? Are you serious? 

Their record transfer is 19.5m euros. And they are too small for Pulisic anyway. If he leaves it will be Bayern or something similar. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Genoa 45m pounds? Are you serious? 

Their record transfer is 19.5m euros. And they are too small for Pulisic anyway. If he leaves it will be Bayern or something similar. 

That seems to be the number being thrown around.

 

[Vesper 30,175]

zero chance a relegation zone smaller club in Serie A will drop £45m on Pulisic

[Vesper 30,175]

he needs to stay healthy and start scoring FFS

he and Ziyech are killing me

(and I was against buying both, so no shock from me)

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

 

[Milan 17,957]

I swear, everytime there is a new post in this thread during the international break, I expect some new injury news 😄

[LAM09 7,051]

4 hours ago, Milan said:

I swear, everytime there is a new post in this thread during the international break, I expect some new injury news 😄

I'm sure that will come tomorrow morning

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

22 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I'm sure that will come tomorrow morning

I am watching tonight. I will post if he comes off the pitch head held high or limping! Odds are limping.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

That header from Puli was sick!!!

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

Played 20 minutes scored the winning goal. Came off the pitch healthy.

 

 

[DanP2311 65]

Watching this and other Chelsea boards makes thin a move in January would be good for all concerned. No one at Chelsea (manager, fans) rates him at his market value — well, some of his teammates do, but …. Chelsea fans seem unanimous that he will be perpetually injured, he should just be s super sub, and blah blah blah. So if he can’t stay healthy in the PL, why not deal him in January, maybe to a league where hacking the technical players is penalized more heavily?  Win-win, right?

No way he will be satisfied long term as the 4th or 5th winger, so given all the talent in the Chelsea system, selling him to a club that values him more highly will happen eventually. Why not in January. CHO looks good, Mount is a mainstay, Ziyech is in form, Havertz gets a lot of winger minutes, and for some reason TT likes Werner. Fans are talking constantly about acquiring additional attackers. Seems a no brainer.

Yes, I am certain that he will flourish elsewhere, but most of you are not. He’s made of glass, right? So why not get some value for him now before he’s permanently broken?

Edited November 13, 2021 by DanP2311

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

No way he will be sold anytime soon. He is free lunch. a squad player that basically pays his wages in marketing revenues earned and expanding our US market share long term. Priceless commercial asset. Him not complaining about lack of minutes due to being out of contention for 50% of games he can hardly complain about lack of game time. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

No way he will be sold anytime soon.

Well, next summer is crunch time. He would have only two years left on his contract. So, either we'll extend the contract or we'll look to sell him.

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

He is free lunch. a squad player that basically pays his wages in marketing revenues earned and expanding our US market share long term. Priceless commercial asset.

Is there any proof that he's actually bringing us profit in terms of marketing revenues? IIRC, he sells a lot of shirts in the US (or that might have been the USMNT one) but not sure that amounts to much and apart from that, I also don't see us acquiring a flow of US based sponsors etc or trying to advertise him everywhere in the US. Moreover, if he's getting injured more often than not, would he even attract sponsors? 

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

Him not complaining about lack of minutes due to being out of contention for 50% of games he can hardly complain about lack of game time. 

Yeah but if he's fit, like in the second half of last season, he'll complain about the lack of game time, again like he did towards the end of last season. 

[Vesper 30,175]

1 hour ago, Jase said:

Well, next summer is crunch time. He would have only two years left on his contract. So, either we'll extend the contract or we'll look to sell him.

Is there any proof that he's actually bringing us profit in terms of marketing revenues? IIRC, he sells a lot of shirts in the US (or that might have been the USMNT one) but not sure that amounts to much and apart from that, I also don't see us acquiring a flow of US based sponsors etc or trying to advertise him everywhere in the US. Moreover, if he's getting injured more often than not, would he even attract sponsors? 

Yeah but if he's fit, like in the second half of last season, he'll complain about the lack of game time, again like he did towards the end of last season. 

bottom line

he needs to stay healthy

he needs to score a lot more than he is

he does those 2

not a peep from me will be heard

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 hours ago, Jase said:

Well, next summer is crunch time. He would have only two years left on his contract. So, either we'll extend the contract or we'll look to sell him.

Is there any proof that he's actually bringing us profit in terms of marketing revenues? IIRC, he sells a lot of shirts in the US (or that might have been the USMNT one) but not sure that amounts to much and apart from that, I also don't see us acquiring a flow of US based sponsors etc or trying to advertise him everywhere in the US. Moreover, if he's getting injured more often than not, would he even attract sponsors? 

Yeah but if he's fit, like in the second half of last season, he'll complain about the lack of game time, again like he did towards the end of last season. 

I read that his kit sales are roughly in the same bracket as his wages somewhere but we all know that merch alone is not gonna cut it.

Short term it is advertising that should be the main Cashflow source but the club has done a terrible job of exploiting his immense marketing potential. Whenever he is injured he should be flown around the US selling some random  yank trumpery from whatever corp gives us most money for it. Instead we still cling on hopes that he eventually fulfills his potential here. He will never do so in such a physical league. He Ian a cash cow waiting to be milked and the club rather explore ways to do so sooner than later even if that means running his contract down. Exploited correctly he could well bring in more cash than the meager fee we gonna get for him anyway 

mid term he has put Chelsea on a map for almost every American sports fan. Liverpool manure and arse used to be bigger across the Atlantic now we are pretty much as popular. Whenever i see snippets of a us network broadcasting one of our matches they have a huge event with thousands of fans waving our flag kn the middle of the night in the rain, cheering us on. Puli is a marketing gem. He himself is profiting massively from his popularity and it could be expected that the desire to see him play will e your broadcasters to pay more for our matches. Not sure this is laid out to the club or the PL centrally markets our games internationally but at least we should profit somewhere in terms of ads and tv money

long term, with the main face of us soccer of a generation inseparably connected to us instead of an other pl club is huge. Dads will tell their kids of how the first American to win the biggest prize in world club football did so with   Chelsea. If we continue to stay relevant over there we will have a foot in the door of every kid who starts to get interested in football for ages even long after Pulisics retirement 

[DanP2311 65]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

No way he will be sold anytime soon. He is free lunch. a squad player that basically pays his wages in marketing revenues earned and expanding our US market share long term. Priceless commercial asset. Him not complaining about lack of minutes due to being out of contention for 50% of games he can hardly complain about lack of game time. 

Trust me, Chelsea has lost a lot of American fans for its use of Pulisic. They know why Chelsea played CL football in the 2020-21 season. Squad player, ha. When he leaves it will be a good day for all concerned. 

Edited November 13, 2021 by DanP2311

[LAM09 7,051]

22 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I am watching tonight. I will post if he comes off the pitch head held high or limping! Odds are limping.

It was the latter, surprisingly.

Edited November 13, 2021 by LAM09

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

I read that his kit sales are roughly in the same bracket as his wages somewhere but we all know that merch alone is not gonna cut it.

Short term it is advertising that should be the main Cashflow source but the club has done a terrible job of exploiting his immense marketing potential. Whenever he is injured he should be flown around the US selling some random  yank trumpery from whatever corp gives us most money for it. Instead we still cling on hopes that he eventually fulfills his potential here. He will never do so in such a physical league. He Ian a cash cow waiting to be milked and the club rather explore ways to do so sooner than later even if that means running his contract down. Exploited correctly he could well bring in more cash than the meager fee we gonna get for him anyway 

mid term he has put Chelsea on a map for almost every American sports fan. Liverpool manure and arse used to be bigger across the Atlantic now we are pretty much as popular. Whenever i see snippets of a us network broadcasting one of our matches they have a huge event with thousands of fans waving our flag kn the middle of the night in the rain, cheering us on. Puli is a marketing gem. He himself is profiting massively from his popularity and it could be expected that the desire to see him play will e your broadcasters to pay more for our matches. Not sure this is laid out to the club or the PL centrally markets our games internationally but at least we should profit somewhere in terms of ads and tv money

long term, with the main face of us soccer of a generation inseparably connected to us instead of an other pl club is huge. Dads will tell their kids of how the first American to win the biggest prize in world club football did so with   Chelsea. If we continue to stay relevant over there we will have a foot in the door of every kid who starts to get interested in football for ages even long after Pulisics retirement 

Doubt we gain anything much, if any at all, from our matches being broadcasted more - if that's the case - in the US. Might be wrong but don't recall that anything like that gets mentioned specifically whenever we see the news about PL broadcasting revenue.

Also, how can we quantify Pulisic's impact in the US for the club? How many are actually already lifelong Chelsea fans anyway and having Pulisic is just an added bonus, how many are actually only following the club because of Pulisic (like we some times see on the internet) etc? 

Would be nice if there's any actual sort of data to see how much on impact the club has made in the US after signing Pulisic because right now, we're just saying he "does" this and that with no evidence to back it up.