🇪🇸 Kepa Arrizabalaga

[Tomo 21,751]

Also regarding Kepa's stats, in a perverse way they can also be cause for hope if we sort out his replacement soon. Why? Because it means we aren't conceding as many chances as the goal against collum suggests, which means our defensive issues could be a lot more fixable than we think.

[Vesper 30,195]

17 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I tried to convince myself he's a system keeper and he'd look better once we get better but recently we have been shutting teams out for the most part yet still conceding the few times they venture in our box. It's everybit as bad as the Bravo situation at City at this point.

We need to sign another keeper in the next ten days. Given the price tag he'll probably have to get one more chance but we need a solid contingency plan.

at this point

Kepa is basically unsaleable

we are on the amortised books for around £120m or so after this season (trans fee plus salary owed for FIVE more years at £10m per anum)

lets say we somehow found a club that will pay (it will a non EPL club for sure) £32m (around 40m euros) trans fee for him

BUT

there is ZERO chance they pay all of his insane salary, especially as it is owed in pounds and the Euro is weak as shit atm

so we will have to probably eat £25m to 30m of his remaining 5 years of salary as well

meaning we take a £65m to £70m pure LOSS on his arse atm (and still a massive loss moving forward, unless he magically comes good)

but hej

our board are godlike sages according to some on here

 

 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

at this point

Kepa is basically unsaleable

we are on the amortised books for around £120m or so after this season (trans fee plus salary owed for FIVE more years at £10m per anum)

lets say we somehow found a club that will pay (it will a non EPL club for sure) £32m (around 40m euros) trans fee for him

BUT

there is ZERO chance they pay all of his insane salary, especially as it is owed in pounds and the Euro is weak as shit atm

so we will have to probably eat £25m to 30m of his remaining 5 years of salary as well

meaning we take a £65m to £70m pure LOSS on his arse atm (and still a massive loss moving forward, unless he magically comes good)

but hej

our board are godlike sages according to some on here

He's still well regarded in Spain but beyond Barca and Real the options are very thin.

If we could convince Oblak to join a new project and challenge then it's possible we may be able to set up a swap deal of some sort with Atletico to mitigate a large portion of the cost but like you said any other clubs in Spain are unlikely to pay both big money and big wages and don't really have outstanding goalkeeping options for us to try to broker some sort of deal with. 

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18 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

He's still well regarded in Spain but beyond Barca and Real the options are very thin.

If we could convince Oblak to join a new project and challenge then it's possible we may be able to set up a swap deal of some sort with Atletico to mitigate a large portion of the cost but like you said any other clubs in Spain are unlikely to pay both big money and big wages and don't really have outstanding goalkeeping options for us to try to broker some sort of deal with. 

AM will never swap the best or 2nd best GK on the planet for the dodgy Kepa unless we ate that 65-70m, and then they still will tell us to go fuck ourselves I figure

Oblak's release clause is now well over £100m btw

lets say we outright bought him

and we somehow ended up losing only 50m quid on Kepa net on net

Oblak's salary demands will be at least 25m pounds more (over 5 years) than Kepa's

so 75m over 5 years

add in the 20m in salary we will have already paid Kepa for last season and this one

meaning 

a 50m net loss on Kepa

20m in Kepa salary already paid

105m in Oblak RC

75m or so for Oblak salary over 5 years

equals

£250m or so amortised total cost over the the 7 year period (2 of Kepa, 5 of Oblak) JUST FOR A GK

let that sink in

a quarter of a billion quid just for 7 total years of first string GK play

LOLOLOLOLOL

goooooooooooooo board

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

He's still well regarded in Spain but beyond Barca and Real the options are very thin.

If we could convince Oblak to join a new project and challenge then it's possible we may be able to set up a swap deal of some sort with Atletico to mitigate a large portion of the cost but like you said any other clubs in Spain are unlikely to pay both big money and big wages and don't really have outstanding goalkeeping options for us to try to broker some sort of deal with. 

Funnily enough, Kepa's replacement at Athletic Bilbao - Unai Simon - is posting better numbers than him right now. 

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4 hours ago, Tomo said:

I tried to convince myself he's a system keeper and he'd look better once we get better but recently we have been shutting teams out for the most part yet still conceding the few times they venture in our box. It's everybit as bad as the Bravo situation at City at this point.

We need to sign another keeper in the next ten days. Given the price tag he'll probably have to get one more chance but we need a solid contingency plan.

Had the same, long conversation with someone on Twitter the other day!

You are not wrong but on the other hand, if we sort out the attacking issues down the other hand, we would not have to worry too much about conceding. If attacking players don't score, they indirectly put pressure on the defence. If the defence can't defend, they indirectly put pressure on the attackers to score.

I'm genuinely curious to see who we're targeting to replace Caballero. Promote Cumming to #2 or buy someone else? If it's the former, it might be worth to just throw him into the fire right now. Can't be any worse than Kepa at this point!

[chippy 342]

We've paid crap loads to get rid of some great managers who won us titles, so i'd be happy to see us pay this clown a load to walk away and find a new club.

 

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6 minutes ago, chippy said:

We've paid crap loads to get rid of some great managers who won us titles, so i'd be happy to see us pay this clown a load to walk away and find a new club.

lol He will cost a lot more than paying sacked managers. He’s only 1.5 years into his 7-year contract. SEVEN!

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

If we don't replace it will cost us more in the long run

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9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

If we don't replace it will cost us more in the long run

yes, absolutely

just missing out on CL will cost us more than selling him at a massive loss and eating some of his 5 years worth of crazy wages

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Chelsea fans slate Kepa Arrizabalaga for performance against Arsenal

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/club-news/chelsea-fans-slate-kepa-arrizabalaga-for-performance-against-arsenal/

Some Chelsea fans once again slated goalkeeper Kepa Arrizabalaga after the club’s 2-2 draw with Arsenal. The Gunners had just two shots on target and scored with them both, causing the Blues to drop yet more points at home.

Lampard’s side had an extra man for 66 minutes after David Luiz was sent off in the first half. This seemed to only heap the pressure on Chelsea and they looked half the team once they had the numerical advantage.

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[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

yes, absolutely

just missing out on CL will cost us more than selling him at a massive loss and eating some of his 5 years worth of crazy wages

Just cant be trusted. All round me it's people saying 'what's he gonna do ??' 

His distribution, hesitancy clearing, and constant backing on to the line. Woeful. The whole game people round me are jittery -it's bad enough with VAR 

[Special Juan 28,141]

His first touch of the ball last night he took an age and it blocked.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Seriously hoping he does a DDG because this is looking dire. He's meant to be the most expensive keeper in the world but is arguably the worst in the league right now. Doesn't help his team out much at all. 

Also his wingspan seems to be super short for a goalkeeper. 

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The Shocking Stats That Reveal Kepa Arrizabalaga's Remarkable Fall From Grace This Season

https://www.90min.com/posts/6542061-the-shocking-stats-that-reveal-kepa-arrizabalaga-s-remarkable-fall-from-grace-this-season?utm_source=RSS

 

 

[NikkiCFC 8,326]

 

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30 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

I don't know how reliable the person is because I don't see it reported in other outlets but in any case, it is one thing wanting to sell him, it is another trying to find a buyer. Kepa still has 5.5 years left in his contract and if you take that and his wages into account, he is going to cost a lot and I don't think there are any other big clubs out there in need of a 1st choice keeper. They are certainly not going to spend big money based on his current form. We could sell him on a cheap and take a huge loss but I'm not sure the club are willing to do that. 

If Nick Pope is seriously one of the early names mentioned as replacement, then the club are idiots and likely haven't done their homework because in terms of the key stats, Pope is the 2nd worst keeper in the Premier League this season, ahead of only Kepa (https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11913442/kepa-arrizabalagas-chelsea-future-is-he-a-problem-for-frank-lampard). Getting Pope to replace Kepa is like trying to replace Karius with Mignolet, who is only marginally better than Karius but isn't good at all for a top club. 

[shrenshah 186]

Play cabelero next game ffs..he cant be this bad

[Nicco 927]

57 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

Nick Pope 

[LAM09 7,056]

Nick Pope [emoji185]

Pickford/Butland all over again. Some rumours actually make sense where we are concerned.