BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Robchels said: Hmm while that can indeed negatively affect confidence, many GK have thrived and used the team in poor form to do really well and catch the attention of bigger clubs. I'm sure Kepa himself had such opportunity playing for a smaller team in Spain and attracting a Chelsea. Goes both ways too: perhaps the defense is not confident with their goalie either. I'm not defending him massively... he was at fault for the second goal and as a keeper myself (who isn't the tallest, either), I'd have certainly tried to attack the cross for Herrera's goal. He's had some excellent moments for us, and they far outweigh the negative, but he has been shaky the past few months. Who wouldn't be after the stuffings we've suffered recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 He is still young for a keeper and can improve. you can see that he has potential. He would be the last to blame for the defeat today albeit he definitely needs stronger wrists and more of an attitude with regards to those unsaveables. Petr cech would throw himself after any ball even the most ludicrous ones and by doing so made some impossible saves. That is how you get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, BlueLion. said: I'm not defending him massively... he was at fault for the second goal and as a keeper myself (who isn't the tallest, either), I'd have certainly tried to attack the cross for Herrera's goal. He's had some excellent moments for us, and they far outweigh the negative, but he has been shaky the past few months. Who wouldn't be after the stuffings we've suffered recently? The one thing I'm not too pleased about at the moment is Kepa not coming for crosses when he should. That was one thing Courtois did well for us, as much as I hate to admit it. In the bigger picture, don't think the back 4 and keeper have been in-sync all season TBH. Guess it's hard to when you do not know what the hell each person is going to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, BlueLion. said: When your defence is as shit as ours, and the team is performing as poorly as it is, it's no wonder he's taken a dip with his own personal performances. Alex ! I know you were/are a keeper. But that statue stance we all did at school and not even attempting a stop is shocking. Willy would have been the better option tonight imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Like I said, he isn't a top keeper. Far from it. Has a lot of growing to do. However, he is the least of our problems. Wouldn't even call him a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Wonder if there are many keepers that are far from the top, with lots of growing to do at £70m Johnnyeye and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,325 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Mana said: I’m going to give Kepa a pass this season because he is young and has room to improve. He should have done better with the 2nd goal though, I’m disappointed with that. He’s decent at the moment. He is definitely a massive downgrade to Cech and snake, but he’s decent. It’s just a shame the back 4 are doing NO favours. I disagree he's downgrade to Thibaut. For sure not massive like you said. Imagine snake in Sarriball? Johnnyeye, Fernando and kc_blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Alex ! I know you were/are a keeper. But that statue stance we all did at school and not even attempting a stop is shocking. Willy would have been the better option tonight imo From a technical point of view, we'd call it him being "flat-footed", a goalkeeper's set position should be almost on their tip-toes, with their weight coming forward. Kepa's footwork is very heavy, which is why for a few goals you see this season, his feet have been quite literally planted. Thibaut was the same, but his greater size and strength bailed him out quite often. It's an area of development. 19 hours ago, Jason said: The one thing I'm not too pleased about at the moment is Kepa not coming for crosses when he should. That was one thing Courtois did well for us, as much as I hate to admit it. In the bigger picture, don't think the back 4 and keeper have been in-sync all season TBH. Guess it's hard to when you do not know what the hell each person is going to do... 100% agreed. He is one of the least aggressive goalkeepers in the entire division, even Leno attacks crosser better than Kepa does. But let's remember the last Spanish goalkeeper that came from Spain and ended up being quite useless. He's now the (in my opinion, behind Oblak) the second best keeper on the planet. I'm not saying Kepa is guaranteed to do the same, but he has unreal potential and Real wanted him initially, remember. He will only get better, especially when this clown leaves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Robchels said: Hmm while that can indeed negatively affect confidence, many GK have thrived and used the team in poor form to do really well and catch the attention of bigger clubs. I'm sure Kepa himself had such opportunity playing for a smaller team in Spain and attracting a Chelsea. Goes both ways too: perhaps the defense is not confident with their goalie either. I don't like his GK style and think he's too short for a top GK. Wish we had gone a diff direction, but oh well. Now I hope he improves. Keppa is a long way from losing my confidence but I have not altered my point of view from the one I expressed in the summer. There is absolutely no way Keppa is £71m better than Marcin in my opinion. Italian managers love experience so it was never anything more than fantasy talk, but I'd have used the money on an outfield player and gone with the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Out of Abramovich era first team keepers -Cudicini, Cech, Courtois, Kepa is the least talented imo. He isn't bad, but too ready in one on one situations to remain flat footed and not attempt a save. Just as some of our overpaid primas are getting slated, he also should not be off the hook. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Out of Abramovich era first team keepers -Cudicini, Cech, Courtois, Kepa is the least talented imo. We've certainly had some quality keepers. Being least talented out of that quartet isn't something to be ashamed of. I think it's a bit harsh though. I'd wait a season or two. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Out of Abramovich era first team keepers -Cudicini, Cech, Courtois, Kepa is the least talented imo. He isn't bad, but too ready in one on one situations to remain flat footed and not attempt a save. Just as some of our overpaid primas are getting slated, he also should not be off the hook. Pardon me if I'm being biased but what exactly was Courtois good at for us, apart from dominating our box aerially? Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, kc_blue said: We've certainly had some quality keepers. Being least talented out of that quartet isn't something to be ashamed of. I think it's a bit harsh though. I'd wait a season or two. I don't think our board has it in them to wait for two seasons Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, Jason said: Pardon me if I'm being biased but what exactly was Courtois good at for us, apart from dominating our box aerially? You're pardoned. I was looking at the ten conceded against Citeh and Bournemouth, pretty certain Big Nose would have stopped at least 3, (the rest would have gone through his legs) Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The mistakes he has made this season (mainly combination of butterfingers and weak wrists) are perfectly normal for a goalkeeper of his age. Yeah he was bought for a world record fee but doesn't change the biological fact that he's only 24 years old. In goalkeeping terms he's still a teenager. If those mistakes do not disappear from his game within the next 3-4 seasons then we might have a problem but currently I'm not too worried about Kepa. manpe and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: You're pardoned. I was looking at the ten conceded against Citeh and Bournemouth, pretty certain Big Nose would have stopped at least 3, (the rest would have gone through his legs) That's debatable. Courtois blew hot and cold when it comes to making saves and he also had a tendency to concede at his near post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: That's debatable. Courtois blew hot and cold when it comes to making saves and he also had a tendency to concede at his near post. It's definitely debateable. The point remains Kepa seems to get free pass in the current shambles. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: It's definitely debateable. The point remains Kepa seems to get free pass in the current shambles. He hasn't been entirely perfect but there are really more pressing concerns right now than Kepa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: He hasn't been entirely perfect but there are really more pressing concerns right now than Kepa.  A £70m price tag seems to cloud judgement in some people. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:  A £70m price tag seems to cloud judgement in some people. Stop trying to create drama, FB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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