Vesper 30,175 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Alli and Kane performed right away because they were good enough. Alli had maybe a very short period of time where he did not perform, but players like Willian don´t perform for years and coacehs have time and patience for them. I would rather have patience for CHO rather than fucking Willian or Alonso Wilian was a good bench player and tertiary starter, but never a talent to try and ram down as a go-to starter unless you had a superb rest of the team his best year was when we finished 10th, he stood out because the rest were shit killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: I would too. RLC for Kovacic as well. What I wouldn't do is put in Ampadu for Jorginho. James for Azpilicueta. DaSilva for Alonso. Mount for Kovacic. Abraham for Higuain. All this was mentioned from other members which is just asinine. Let's replace our bench options with championship players. Ampadu is not good enough for the the Sarri Jorginho role. James could really compete with Azpi because he can cross the ball, can dribble really good, is physically very strong and has quite a good positioning as a young age. He also was captain for our youth and seems to be a real leader. He offers a complete different set of attributes than Azpilicueta. Azpi does not offer anything extraordinary as a right back. He does not even defend that well like he used to. I think he could become great again as a CB, but as a right back, he is not a top player anymore. Mount is not good enough, but offers a bigger threat than Barkley, but I prefer RLC because Mount is physically not good enough. He needs more time. Abraham seems quite the deal. I would suggest that he should be our second striker. He offers something complete different than Higuain and Giroud and has a striker instict. What he also has is confindence, which our strikers do not have. Costa was our last confident striker. I would give Abraham a fair chance also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, Fernando said: see if we can get Pochetino. Pochettino would NEVER come here in a million years they open up their new stadium this week and Levy will finally drop coin this summer for reinforcements plus he likes job security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Wow. Two of Sarri's biggest backers @Fernando and @petre.ispirescu have decided to jump ship. Never expected to see that... Henrique, Laylabelle, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Fernando said: Conte was the real deal and it's what we needed. But the club have no ambition. Conte wanted top targets and the club gets them David Luiz and Alonso. He did a great job with a not so good squad. That being said, it's already too late to sack Sarri. Does not make any sense right now. Just wait for the summer and see if we can get Pochetino. For 18 months i agree, but the league form of the last 6 was catastrophic and a large part down to his attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 8:27 PM, Fernando said: Give it some time, this is good. We needs this, continuity. I do expect next season to improve. You are absolutely spot on but I dont remember a manager so clueless as Sarri is. Why didnt we pull that shit with Conte then? Because he actualy had balls to stand up for his demands? Sarri is throwing same shit players on the pitch over and over and over. At this point I dont even care about results anymore. When I see his lineup with Alonso Im already pissed. As is the 90% of Chelsea fans. Some will always say manager is always right. If manager plays Iva, so be it they know what they are doing and we are just stupid fans to say otherwise. But it was obvious Iva was done long before, the managers were wrong. Same is going on with Alonso and I dont believe Sarri knows better than me or any other fan to play him over Emerson. He is just stubborn and plays someone absolutely shite. ANY decent manager would play CHO by now. I cant imagine a club with such ineffective options and still not play young hotshot like CHO. But Sarri keeps on benching him and even downplays him every time he gets the chance. OR chats about one thing and then does something else, like saying CHO is equal to other wingers we have but everyone knows Sarri was full of bs about that and lack of starts prove it. Lastly his comments ala '' I dont care what fans think''. Ok, sure the boos must not get into your head, thats for sure. But to say something like that in interviews? Chelsea manager who doesnt give a shit what Chelsea fans think? He can fuck off for those comments alone. If the board is seriously thinking of giving him some sort of long term chance, then the first step is to get along with Chelsea club, fans and players. And this old fucker says he doesnt even give a shite. If we were in 2005, we would throw this old fart out of the club 5minutes after he says shit like that about the club or the fans. But like I said, this isnt even about the results. He is simply wrong in so many areas on and off the pitch. I dont know if we had a manager so disconnected to the club like this one. How can you plan long term then? Vesper, Fernando and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Theresa May of football manager... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: How can you plan long term then? our corrupt puppet board wouldn't know proactive long term planning if it stabbed them in their arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, eemanyooel said: Theresa May of football manager... we need a Sarrexit then a Romanexit Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Sarri should go and try to be a yank baseball manager i even found a uniform for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Fernando said: We will have time and patience if we give youth a chance. But Sarri puts Pedro and Willian ahead of CHOI. He is really crap for youth. Exactly!! Instead this season is driving certain players out. He's crap full stop. There is nothing to say it's worth keeping him another season 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Im unsure what will happen in the summer. We made progress but have stagnated and with the transfer ban it doesnt help Sarri if he were to go for more players to suit his philosophy, if he were to believe that some of these guys need to go. The quality of starting players in the 11 or the 18 is more an issue than the manager in my eyes. Alonso, Luiz, Kovacic, Barkley, Willian, Giroud, Zappacosta, Pedro (altho hes been more productive this season), 8 out of 18 that arent good enough. Some have potential to grow but havent done enough - Kova and Ross especially but we cant really afford to sell players without replacing them this summer. Just shows Conte did more thsn what youd expect considering that most of the 11 he picked most weeks are still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Laylabelle 9,535 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I feel sorry for him in the way chants can't be nice to hear. But at same time he can change that by changing things. His way hasn't worked for a while. Mix it up give something else a shot don't hope it will work again when it hasn't before. 1905didierblue and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, Laylabelle said: I feel sorry for him in the way chants can't be nice to hear. But at same time he can change that by changing things. His way hasn't worked for a while. Mix it up give something else a shot don't hope it will work again when it hasn't before. I never taunt employees I just sack them the instant I see they are not going to work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: I never taunt employees I just sack them the instant I see they are not going to work out If still here next season in for a bumpy ride. Transfer window or not.. I don't see it working. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I swear to god, someone on twitter is arguing with me that Conte is NOT a better manager than Sarri. Im lost for words Henrique, 1905didierblue, Vesper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I'm all for giving someone time if you can see the positives and progress being made, even if it is a little slow. Unfortunately I don't see any of this with Sarri. The only positive spin that can be put on our football this season is that we dominate possession near enough every game now, but in doing so we have sacrificed utilising any pace in our team, and become slow and predictable with the ball making us easy to defend against. In defence our midfield is now set up to be counter attacked and our defence exposed. What we are playing isn't attacking football in my opinion. There are multiple ways to play attack minded football and dominating possession outside the opposition final 3rd and creating few chances is not one of them. The lack of cutting edge and urgency on the ball is the biggest worry for me. We're so laboured and easy to play against. The whole system is way too rigid and stifles a number of players from playing their natural game. Even when we are losing, it's not like we ever seem to be throwing everything at a team. The Chelsea of old would pepper the opposition goal from all angles until it caved in and it's sorry to see no one willing to shoot from distance anymore. Even with a transfer ban in place for me we need to move away from Sarri's project. petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So you aren't willing to give a manager time to change the philosophy of the club, but are willing to give a manger time to play youth? A more time consuming risk than the former? 100000% agree mate. Your bang on. For me, theres no short term fix to this problem we have because the long term reprecussions of the short term mindset weve adopted over the years and it has finally came back to bite us. The next 2 or 3 seasons will be a progression in terms of developing the squad and they will probably be trophyless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 The only manager who i think, honestly, the club would give time to and cut a lot of slack is Lampard/JT I reckon they'd get so much time because they are chelsea men. Which is why i think, maybe wrongly (as of now), that they will be the next management team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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