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6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

In all fairness as well, the formation wont make a huge difference. 4231 just means youve got a pure 10 and not playing with a 6 as opposed to 433 with a 6 and two 8s. Its still not going to make Willian, Hazard, Kovacic/Barkley do more offensively is it? Kante will still push up and Jorginho will still dictate the play. The players in attack will still stand still and we would still be exposed when we lose the ball becauze everyone will be higher up. 4231 basically becomes a 433 because Kante and Jorginho both dont need to be deeper to screen when we have the ball. Was the same when when had Ramires playing in a double pivot. He just pushed up and it was effectively 433. The 10 would drop in as a more advanced CM without the ball...

Sarri mentioned recently that he does have 4-2-3-1 in his mind and since 4-3-3 isn't working, why not try the former? 

And no, 4-2-3-1 may well give the team a better balance because you have two fellas screening the defence and gives the full backs a better platform to go forward. You saw the game on Wednesday? Only 3 players stayed back while everyone was caught high up the pitch when Bournemouth broke. Kante can't or won't be getting forward as much because otherwise, we'll just end up with another Matic-Fabregas situation.

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1 minute ago, Laylabelle said:

What was the point in keeping him if just going to be on the bench?! We're oretty shit anyway so nothing to lose by playing him. So there's no excuse. 

Clubs a joke, preach in every press conference about how good he is, last two games been sat on his fucking arse.

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Just now, Special Juan said:

No Odoi again, this bloke is beginning to fucking piss me right off.

It's kinda ironic, isn't it? The board got Sarri in to change our style moving forward but the manager himself isn't quite in-tuned with the board's long term plan on the players.

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Just now, Jason said:

Sarri mentioned recently that he does have 4-2-3-1 in his mind and since 4-3-3 isn't working, why not try the former? 

And no, 4-2-3-1 may well give the team a better balance because you have two fellas screening the defence and gives the full backs a better platform to go forward. You saw the game on Wednesday? Only 3 players stayed back while everyone was caught high up the pitch when Bournemouth broke. Kante can't or won't be getting forward as much because otherwise, we'll just end up with another Matic-Fabregas situation.

But again with 4231, your going to lose movement off the ball which Kante provides. Its not a huge difference, two screens yes but Luiz at CB and Alonso or Emerson at LB is still pretty suspect. Plus Sarris attacking instincts Kante will still be asked to push up and make options because he cannot affect a game from a deeper position in an offensive way. It will be interesting to see if he would change it but I wouldn't expect anything hugely different. Fullbacks maybe have more cover yes but again, will it affect our attacking play? Defensively weve been poor recently too and I get thst but Sarri is a purist, he would rather win 5-4 playing in that way than grind out a 1-0. The Man City game was maybe an exception at times but they pressed us so well.

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2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Clubs a joke, preach in every press conference about how good he is, last two games been sat on his fucking arse.

He played well when he does get a chance as well! 

This month.. FA Cup round.. Europa round and Carling Cup final... Be nice if we can end it well. Not out of everything and in 6th. Huge games coming up everywhere 

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Just now, Jason said:

It's kinda ironic, isn't it? The board got Sarri in to change our style moving forward but the manager himself isn't quite in-tuned with the board's long term plan on the players.

The whole structure of the club is fucked from top to bottom.

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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

But again with 4231, your going to lose movement off the ball which Kante provides. Its not a huge difference, two screens yes but Luiz at CB and Alonso or Emerson at LB is still pretty suspect. Plus Sarris attacking instincts Kante will still be asked to push up and make options because he cannot affect a game from a deeper position in an offensive way. It will be interesting to see if he would change it but I wouldn't expect anything hugely different. Fullbacks maybe have more cover yes but again, will it affect our attacking play? Defensively weve been poor recently too and I get thst but Sarri is a purist, he would rather win 5-4 playing in that way than grind out a 1-0. The Man City game was maybe an exception at times but they pressed us so well.

If Kante is still gonna push forward in a 4-2-3-1, then why even bother playing that? If Sarri can't make tactical alterations, can't make players work in a system - which is already proving to be the case - then he definitely won't be here for long. Digging his own grave. 

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25 minutes ago, Jason said:

If Kante is still gonna push forward in a 4-2-3-1, then why even bother playing that? If Sarri can't make tactical alterations, can't make players work in a system - which is already proving to be the case - then he definitely won't be here for long. Digging his own grave. 

Exactly. Sarri has clearly challenged Kante to be much more adventourous this season, to have more involvements offensively as well as recover the ball higher up the pitch, like the rest of the team. He still offers everything else, I dont buy this he is a DM only because hes never actually played as one here bar 4 games under Conte before he went to 343 and didnt at Leicester. His best games have always been in a MF 2 or MF 3. Kante and Jorginho are nailed on to start most matches regardless of form because Kante is a world class player and Jorginho is essential to how we play , its the LCM position that is a huge issue and even if we played with a 10 still Barkley is the most natural fit for that role and is infuriating at times along with the lack movement infront off him. Jorginhos struggle isnt just completely down to him, he is man marked most matches and the other MF players dont take the responsibility to take the baton and demand the ball as he does. Even when he gets time where are the options he had at Napoli for instance? Everyones coming short, nobody is willing to move off the ball to create the opportunity for a longer pass. Nobody making selfless runs like Callejon or Hamsik would or a regular basis. Fair enough hes also had poor games but he is a key component and I would hate to see how good he would be for City because they have a bit of everything, quick combination play, plenty of MF players who are willing to take responsibility, wide players who make excellent movements without the ball.

Sarri could play 2 strikers when we are chasing a game yes but we need plan A tp be effective if he is to have any future here. If it means being stubborn and having to build the squad again then so be it. When you appoint a guy like Sarri or a Pep or a whoever who are one method managers who play their way or nothing then you have to buy into it.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

He's happy with that apparently...

 

It is crazy if he said he is not happy after winning 5-0 but what he said is true. Our pressing was fantastic in the first 30 minutes. Our defense I thought was also quite good but we make some silly passing and decision that exposed our defense too much. Playing this football we will get countered, but it was too much for my liking in the 1st half. 2nd half I thought our defense is not as exposed but our pressing intensity dropped maybe due to fatigue. 

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Post-Match Press Conference: Chelsea 5-0 Huddersfield

Sarri: “I think we started very well. In the first 25, 30 mins I saw my football. We moved the ball very fast with good movements off the ball. I’m happy because we played for 90 mins & defended for 90 mins, but we need consistency now”

Sarri on big February: “It will be very difficult - also for our opponents, I think. We have to be happy for our season - we are in February & involved in four different competitions”

Sarri on keeping it going: "In the Cup we played Liverpool, Spurs & City. It is like the Champions League, I think. Here in England, everything is very difficult. The league is competitive. We need consistency in the performances, results will be difficult but in perfromances"

Sarri on Higuain: “When he arrived he wasn’t top physical condition. Now he’s improving & I’m very happy because aside from his goals, I think he’s really suitable to play with Eden”

Sarri on motivation: “We need to understand that in the future we will not have to lose a game to get motivation. We have to improve consistency, mentality”

Sarri asked if he’s confident Bournemouth won’t be repeated: “I’m not sure but I hope so.”

Sarri on emotions of last few days: “I was completely focused on the team in the last three, four days. I wanted to understand. Today the answer is really very good but we have to be careful because we need the same mentality in every match”

Sarri on Chelsea’s potential: “I think we have good potential. We need to arrive to play 70, 75 mins like the first 25 in this match. We need to play the same football with continuity”

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5 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

Sarri on Chelsea’s potential: “I think we have good potential. We need to arrive to play 70, 75 mins like the first 25 in this match. We need to play the same football with continuity”

This. Just watch how relentless our pressing and how we keep moving. It was kinda watching pool play, we look like scoring whenever we go forward. 

 

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