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CJ, In fact I had the opposite idea.. Loan him for 6 months and get him back in Jan !!! Atleast he can play DM in the absence of Obi n our Bison.

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Atm we have following central midfielder:Ballack, Essien,Lampard, Mikel (assuming belleti and deco would be sold).

For one month we wont have defensive midfielders. At the moment we have Ballack to play there in their absense but we will be short in attacking midfield. Hence Id want Mancienne to be back for January.

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We won't sell Belletti. I hope. He's too much of a good squad player. Doesn't complain, gets his head down and tries his hardest. Model professional. Plus we'd only get £1 million at most for him; he's 32 and seems happy at the club, besides.

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I think a loan to AC Milan could do him the world of good, there is a lot to learn about defending in Italy and its a big club so he would gain valuable experience. when he comes back he will be twice the player

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Looks like Mancinne may be on the verge of joining Wolves on a season long loan. Given that Carvalho is staying and we have Alex and Ivanovic also behind JT then i think a loan for the season in the premiership will do him the world of good.

http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/08/11/wolves-close-in-on-mancienne/

As i have said in the discussions on Di Santo and Sinclair loans, a season in the premiership is a massive move for these lads and a big step in them getting chances in our first team. I would have liked to have seen Mancienne get his chance with our first team this season, but if those chances are not going to come then a loan in the premiership is a very good move.

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Wolves this afternoon confirmed they are set to seal the season-long loan capture of defender Michael Mancienne – as the defender waited to pen a four-year deal with Chelsea. Mancienne was due in Wolverhampton earlier today after playing 90 minutes in England under-21s’ 0-0 draw in Holland last night.

But with a deal with Wolves poised to go through and Mancienne having just 12 months left on his current deal, it is believed Chelsea arranged for the 21-year-old to sign a new contract today.

The versatile centre-back, who can also play in either full-back position, has agreed to move to Molineux to get the match action he needs to push for inclusion in England’s squad in World Cup year.

Chief executive Jez Moxey confirmed the deal was closer but refuted suggestions that Mancienne could become a permanent £4m signing.

“It’s on-going, but there’s no permanent deal,” said Moxey. “If we can get a deal with Chelsea, then we’re hopeful something will happen.”

Mancienne, who had a successful 10-match spell on loan with Wolves last season, has already looked at properties in the Wolverhampton area after learning he would be starting the season as Chelsea’s fifth choice central defender behind John Terry, Ricardho Carvalho, Branislav Ivanovic and Alex.

Chelsea boss Carlos Ancelotti finally agreed to allow Mancienne back out on loan after Carvalho turned down the chance to join Inter Milan recently.

The 12-month loan allows Mancienne to return to Stamford Bridge to challenge for a place after next summer’s World Cup, when Carvalho could leave.

Mancienne impressed so much in his first stint at Wolves last winter that he was included in Fabio Capello’s England squad for a friendly against Germany.

Although he failed to figure in England’s friendly in Berlin last November, his success at Wolves saw him finally make his debut for Chelsea and he went on to play six games for the Stamford Bridge club last season, including making his Champions League debut.

And the west Londonder knows he will have the platform to impress on the Premier League stage under boss Mick McCarthy this season, rather than languish in Chelsea’s reserves after failing to make their 25-man squad for Sunday’s Community Shield penalties win over Manchester United.

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If we are planning to loan him, I'd say send him to a club like West Ham or Portsmouth, or Everton... Not Wolves!!

Why?

How is he going to get regular games at West Ham, Pompey or Everton when they have international players in his position already! Wolves is perfect for him, he WILL get the regular games and will get all the experience he needs.

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^^ Yeah, but that was in the championship, not in the premiership.

In the EPL he will be facing teams like Arsenal and Man Utd, or have you forgotten that?

If he plays well against them for Wolves, and Carlo sees who needs to go either in January or the end of the season, i hope he can take their place.

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Mancienne isn't going to get hardly any games for us this season, especially now that Carvalho is staying another year. If he goes to Wolves he gets a full season playing Premier League football, which is a big deal and would make it easier for Carlo to trust him playing for us.

In an ideal world we would be able to play him in our first team, but a loan to Wolves at this stage in his career can only be good for him and will certainly not set him back. The club are making it very clear they see him as part of our future as they are getting him to sign a new deal before he goes off on loan.

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