Ross Barkley

[Miguelito 459]

I have always been a fan of him. He is one of those players that when we look thin, he steps in and does a good job. Whether in CM/AM, he can put in a good shift. I actually think he could have gone to a better team, but brilliant capture for Villa. Really surprised by this. Probably our only CM who offers a goalscoring threat too which frustrates me even more.

I agree that I wish we would have kept him. Great squad player.

But the last part about our only CM with goalscoring threat...what about mount? And even havertz to a degree. I won't count RLC cause it seems he's leaving. I think we are light on goal threats from there, but he's not the only one.

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[Tomo 21,733]

24 minutes ago, Stats said:

I have always been a fan of him. He is one of those players that when we look thin, he steps in and does a good job. Whether in CM/AM, he can put in a good shift. I actually think he could have gone to a better team, but brilliant capture for Villa. Really surprised by this. Probably our only CM who offers a goalscoring threat too which frustrates me even more.

I agree with all of that apart from goal threat, i think he's overrated on that regard. Through like November 2018 to the end of 2019 he scored like 3 goals which all came against Malmö or Grimsby.

Judging by his interview on the Villa channel it sounds like it was his choice to go for more regular action which makes me feel a little less annoyed about this. Sounds like he got to the Phil Neville point (when he left United to go to Everton) where taking a step down for regular action trumped being a squad player in one of the top teams, so good luck to him.

[Stats 7,060]

9 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

 

 

I agree that I wish we would have kept him. Great squad player.

But the last part about our only CM with goalscoring threat...what about mount? And even havertz to a degree. I won't count RLC cause it seems he's leaving. I think we are light on goal threats from there, but he's not the only one.

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I don't see Havertz playing CM for us, hence why I did not include him. RLC too, I see him advanced. But Barkley can play in a 2 man midfield and has done this very well.

5 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I agree with all of that apart from goal threat, i think he's overrated on that regard. Through like November 2018 to the end of 2019 he scored like 3 goals which all came against Malmö or Grimsby.

Judging by his interview on the Villa channel it sounds like it was his choice to go for more regular action which makes me feel a little less annoyed about this. Sounds like he got to the Phil Neville point (when he left United to go to Everton) where taking a step down for regular action trumped being a squad player in one of the top teams, so good luck to him.

Yeah, maybe the goalscoring threat was exaggerated, however that goal for example he scored against Liverpool in the FA Cup last season, he is capable of doing that as he has that drive to run wtih the ball and unleash a powerful shot, which none of our other CM have.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

 

[Azul 1,615]

Agent Ross doing what he does best, which is destroying the Scouse scum.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

it was a good performance tbf but he was still frustrating. This was a huge one-off, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

[Vesper 29,169]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

it was a good performance tbf but he was still frustrating. This was a huge one-off, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

agreed, BUT I still wish we had sent RLC out on loan and not Barkley

[OneMoSalah 8,810]

Could have easily scored a hattrick if he was clinical enough. Clear signs of why he is never going to be a key starter for a huge club competing for trophies where these moments are the difference between a top player and a good one. Or winning a big game in a title decider or cup final, or losing it. But promising debut.

[Fernando 6,497]

Good that he dos well, we can sell him for a nice price this summer if he keeps it up.  

[Stats 7,060]

Crazy decision to let him go out on loan, considering Lamps was not able to get Rice. He is the only player we have who plays CM and adds a bit of muscle. The CM options are way too lightweight.

[NikkiCFC 8,067]

22 minutes ago, Stats said:

He is the only player we have who plays CM and adds a bit of muscle. The CM options are way too lightweight.

Frank does not need any CM on the bench anyway.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Just now, NikkiCFC said:

Frank does not need any CM on the bench anyway.

Sure could have used one today...

[Jase 43,479]

15 hours ago, Stats said:

Crazy decision to let him go out on loan, considering Lamps was not able to get Rice. He is the only player we have who plays CM and adds a bit of muscle. The CM options are way too lightweight.

Pretty sure Barkley pushed for the move to boost his own chances of going to the Euros with England. 

[Stats 7,060]

5 hours ago, Jason said:

Pretty sure Barkley pushed for the move to boost his own chances of going to the Euros with England. 

Yep but Lamps should have said I will rely on you throughout the season. Kante is likely to get his injuries this season. Gilmour is currently injured and still a rookie. Then you can never rule out the players being ruled out with covid also. There is so many games to play. Really baffled and we could of done with him and he proved last season he is a useful asset. I am  sure last season there was a point where Kovacic, Jorginho and Kovacic were all out. Barkley luckily came in and did well. This season we don't have that option, or till January at least anyway...

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

Dross cant really play in a double pivot tho

[Stats 7,060]

Come up with a last minute winner. Top goal. What a loan he is going to be for Villa. That ability to drive and shoot is something that could have been really useful for us... oh well.

[Vesper 29,169]

3 minutes ago, Stats said:

Come up with a last minute winner. Top goal. What a loan he is going to be for Villa. That ability to drive and shoot is something that could have been really useful for us... oh well.

RLC out the door? all the way, 100% agree

Barkley, I was pissed

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Stats said:

Yep but Lamps should have said I will rely on you throughout the season. Kante is likely to get his injuries this season. Gilmour is currently injured and still a rookie. Then you can never rule out the players being ruled out with covid also. There is so many games to play. Really baffled and we could of done with him and he proved last season he is a useful asset. I am  sure last season there was a point where Kovacic, Jorginho and Kovacic were all out. Barkley luckily came in and did well. This season we don't have that option, or till January at least anyway...

But if Barkley wants to play every game? We're never going to guarantee that, aren't we?