🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Mason Mount

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I just don't know where his end product has gone. There actually seemed to be something about him at Vitesse, but he can't even seem to shoot anymore.

I wonder if Lampard is restricting him by turning him into a tactical player. Mount just becomes totally braindead in the final third.

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

I wonder if Lampard is restricting him by turning him into a tactical player. Mount just becomes totally braindead in the final third.

Mount has said in many interviews it's his Dad that's drilled it into him that he can't be a "luxury" number 10.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Tomo said:

Mount has said in many interviews it's his Dad that's drilled it into him that he can't be a "luxury" number 10.

Not saying Mount shouldn't do both sides of the game but it seems like the creative aspect of his game is suffering because of the tactical side of things. 

[LAM09 7,051]

Inexperience. Least I’m hoping. No other explanation to where his finishing ability from the start of the season went 

Seems Leicester fans are complaining the same thing with Maddison 

We can hope. I actually had the most faith in him becoming the heir to Lampard (to a lesser extent ofc).

 

 

 

I wonder if Lampard is restricting him by turning him into a tactical player. Mount just becomes totally braindead in the final third.

 

It wouldn't be surprising. Seems like any sort of press is constantly lead by him for starters, which is having an adverse effect.

[Henrique 9,133]

"Mason Mount 7 Intelligent performance from Chelsea’s likeliest source of a goal. Took aim several times and almost punished one poor Neuer clearance."

I found this shit in a Guardian article with players rating.

Im pissed! Anyone who thinks Mount had a "intelligent performance" and was "likeliest source of goal" dont have a clue about football.

Anyone who thinks Mount is any good is hopeless.

 

[Henrique 9,133]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

I wonder if Lampard is restricting him by turning him into a tactical player. Mount just becomes totally braindead in the final third.

"Tactical" is the term used to describe limited players. 

Every time I see a player described as things like "tactical", "industrial", "intelligent" I know we are talking about a limited player. 

[Henrique 9,133]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

As mentioned in previous page. End product. Needs to be consistent regardless of if you are 21 or 30 in these games. For a number 10, all the running and pressing and tackling in the world will not get your team anywhere v the likes of Bayern etc.

He is number 19 mate.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

We can hope. I actually had the most faith in him becoming the heir to Lampard (to a lesser extent ofc).

 

 

 

 

 

It wouldn't be surprising. Seems like any sort of press is constantly lead by him for starters, which is having an adverse effect.

If pressing is affecting the rest of his game then fuck knows how hes made it being a professional footballer because a lot of players can do it and still manage to deliver with the ball. I mean did pressing affect all of Peps Barca team with all those players or his Man City team now or Conte's Juventus teams etc consisting of Marchisio, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo etc? It didnt.

He is maybe one of the triggers for our press but if thats affecting his ability on with the ball then he needs to get fitter and much much better. 

[LAM09 7,051]

If pressing is affecting the rest of his game then fuck knows how hes made it being a professional footballer because a lot of players can do it and still manage to deliver with the ball. I mean did pressing affect all of Peps Barca team with all those players or his Man City team now or Conte's Juventus teams etc consisting of Marchisio, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo etc? It didnt.
He is maybe one of the triggers for our press but if thats affecting his ability on with the ball then he needs to get fitter and much much better. 

This is his first season in the top flight, so I'd cut him some slack about it taking it's toil three quarters into the season.

Mention a player in these teams that were making their league debuts?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

It is not that he is a goal machine to begin with just because he scores a couple in the Dutch League. He is a bit predictable on the ball and led not really spot runs or spaces to pass into. I doubt he will become world class but with his hard working mentality he surely will be a useful squad player in the future. At least he is not as shit as Barkley

[Henrique 9,133]

He needs a new hair style. He totally looks like an average kid you would find in an Apple store trying to get his iPhone fixed. Defenders will never take him seriously. I would suggest him to completely shaves his head. Boom. Suddenly he will look a little football magician, and defenders will always think "behold, this fella is up to something".

[Stats 7,142]

11 hours ago, Henrique said:

He needs a new hair style. He totally looks like an average kid you would find in an Apple store trying to get his iPhone fixed. Defenders will never take him seriously. I would suggest him to completely shaves his head. Boom. Suddenly he will look a little football magician, and defenders will always think "behold, this fella is up to something".

You do make me laugh 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

Forget about starting spot. Honestly I cant see place for him next season in the squad. 

Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante, RLC, Gilmour, Barkley, Gallagher. We will sign I think Aouar. And Pulisic and Ziyach can play AM. 

That is 10 players in front of him and we have only 6 places in midfield. Ok Ziyach and Puli are more wingers but still would be better as AM.

[Tomo 21,751]

23 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Forget about starting spot. Honestly I cant see place for him next season in the squad. 

Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante, RLC, Gilmour, Barkley, Gallagher. We will sign I think Aouar. And Pulisic and Ziyach can play AM. 

That is 10 players in front of him and we have only 6 places in midfield. Ok Ziyach and Puli are more wingers but still would be better as AM.

There's next to zero chance he will be gone before Barkley.

[Kun Aguer0 36]

Any updates about his injury? 

Both Achilles. Hopefully not too bad for Willian, but Kovacic might be a bit worse. We have been unlucky with injuries, but we have to work with it

I hope that this is not true 

 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

19 minutes ago, Tomo said:

There's next to zero chance he will be gone before Barkley.

That is true. Mount will be here next season no doubt. But he wont play much and eventually he will ask to leave or will be loaned out.

Forget about Barkley. And Puli and Ziyach as AM. Even Gallagher wont be here next season. Just Aouar and RLC will be too much for him.

One goal in last 29 games and one assist from open play whole season is not good. Not even close!

[Superblue 6,372]

7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

That is true. Mount will be here next season no doubt. But he wont play much and eventually he will ask to leave or will be loaned out.

Forget about Barkley. And Puli and Ziyach as AM. Even Gallagher wont be here next season. Just Aouar and RLC will be too much for him.

One goal in last 29 games and one assist from open play whole season is not good. Not even close!

Thought he played well tonight when he came on, and I think he's played very well in general since the winter break to be honest. I agree that those numbers in goals and assists need to improve but I think they will do in time.

[Jase 43,479]

10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Forget about starting spot. Honestly I cant see place for him next season in the squad. 

Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante, RLC, Gilmour, Barkley, Gallagher. We will sign I think Aouar. And Pulisic and Ziyach can play AM. 

That is 10 players in front of him and we have only 6 places in midfield. Ok Ziyach and Puli are more wingers but still would be better as AM.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 03/03/2020 at 11:11 PM, NikkiCFC said:

Forget about starting spot. Honestly I cant see place for him next season in the squad. 

Jorginho, Kovacic, Kante, RLC, Gilmour, Barkley, Gallagher. We will sign I think Aouar. And Pulisic and Ziyach can play AM. 

That is 10 players in front of him and we have only 6 places in midfield. Ok Ziyach and Puli are more wingers but still would be better as AM.

Gallagher wont be here next season. He will be loaned out for another season of playing every week and that is definitely the best thing for his development. He has jumped the rung a bit going to Swansea from Charlton but theres no need to rush him. He has only 1 season of pro football under his belt.

Barkley if he stays beyond this season I would be surprised as well as his Chelsea career has been nothing but poor bar the odd false dawn (although I did say I felt FL could have hsed him more along with Giroud and Pedro before the winter period) so if he is retained then when he doesnt deliver that decision will sit firmly on Frank's shoulders because we can all see hes not consistent enough yet alone good enough. Hes definitely expendable this summer so to speak.

Mount and Gilmour probably wont play the same roles, also Mount is more a 10 than Jorginho, Kante or Kovacic so hes hardly in direct competition with them as Frank seems to prefer 4231.

Throwing in Pulisic who is going to be a winger here for the foreseeable future is just pointless and just seems as so you have done so to make it look as if there are endless players who in the squad have played that position. Pulisic hasnt played as a 10 at club level for us or Dortmund as far as I can remember. Maybe for the USA he has. I doubt FL sees him in that role. Or we would have seen it already.

So he has Ruben (again havent seen him in a FL team yet so who knows?) and Ross (for as long as he stays here times running out for him) as his main competition in the current squad. Potentially Ziyech on top next season and as mentioned what if FL cuts his losses with Ross? So even if he doesnt, he will definitely be a squad member, would take something incredibly drastic for him not to be. Its clear Frank rates him highly. 

Where do you get the impression we will sign Aouar from? Or just a personal choice? He is somebody who has played a lot off the left side as well as centrally for Lyon since breaking into their team in previous seasons but yes a top top player in the making undoubtedly. Plus as questionable as Mount and Barkley are, if we go after Aouar and sign him do you honestly think Conor Gallagher will fit in the squad? Really? Just baffles me you think we will sign another attacking midfielder, retain Ruben, Ross and then keep someone who is at an age where they need to playing to make up the numbers more or less. I mean Billy Gilmour is also likely to be still around next season too before Conor is in my opinion. 

Next season I doubt there will be many MF changes, we will likely have Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic and probably Billy if FL trusts him more and he can continue to do well. Maybe Ruben it depends how FL sees him but think he will be further up the pitch as a 10 or furthest forward in a 3 man MF. In the 10 position we will have Ruben, Mason and Ross (think he should be sold though). Maybe Ziyech will operate there maybe not. But its all hypotheticals to the summer comes but Mason Mount possibly not having a place in the squad next season is by far one of the most outrageous things I think I have heard on here in a while.

 

[Chelsea_firstlove 178]

3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Gallagher wont be here next season. He will be loaned out for another season of playing every week and that is definitely the best thing for his development. He has jumped the rung a bit going to Swansea from Charlton but theres no need to rush him. He has only 1 season of pro football under his belt.

Barkley if he stays beyond this season I would be surprised as well as his Chelsea career has been nothing but poor bar the odd false dawn (although I did say I felt FL could have hsed him more along with Giroud and Pedro before the winter period) so if he is retained then when he doesnt deliver that decision will sit firmly on Frank's shoulders because we can all see hes not consistent enough yet alone good enough. Hes definitely expendable this summer so to speak.

Mount and Gilmour probably wont play the same roles, also Mount is more a 10 than Jorginho, Kante or Kovacic so hes hardly in direct competition with them as Frank seems to prefer 4231.

Throwing in Pulisic who is going to be a winger here for the foreseeable future is just pointless and just seems as so you have done so to make it look as if there are endless players who in the squad have played that position. Pulisic hasnt played as a 10 at club level for us or Dortmund as far as I can remember. Maybe for the USA he has. I doubt FL sees him in that role. Or we would have seen it already.

So he has Ruben (again havent seen him in a FL team yet so who knows?) and Ross (for as long as he stays here times running out for him) as his main competition in the current squad. Potentially Ziyech on top next season and as mentioned what if FL cuts his losses with Ross? So even if he doesnt, he will definitely be a squad member, would take something incredibly drastic for him not to be. Its clear Frank rates him highly. 

Where do you get the impression we will sign Aouar from? Or just a personal choice? He is somebody who has played a lot off the left side as well as centrally for Lyon since breaking into their team in previous seasons but yes a top top player in the making undoubtedly. Plus as questionable as Mount and Barkley are, if we go after Aouar and sign him do you honestly think Conor Gallagher will fit in the squad? Really? Just baffles me you think we will sign another attacking midfielder, retain Ruben, Ross and then keep someone who is at an age where they need to playing to make up the numbers more or less. I mean Billy Gilmour is also likely to be still around next season too before Conor is in my opinion. 

Next season I doubt there will be many MF changes, we will likely have Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic and probably Billy if FL trusts him more and he can continue to do well. Maybe Ruben it depends how FL sees him but think he will be further up the pitch as a 10 or furthest forward in a 3 man MF. In the 10 position we will have Ruben, Mason and Ross (think he should be sold though). Maybe Ziyech will operate there maybe not. But its all hypotheticals to the summer comes but Mason Mount possibly not having a place in the squad next season is by far one of the most outrageous things I think I have heard on here in a while.

 

Totally agree, you read my mind, mate. This is a picture I posted  on the forum a month ago( before we signed Ziyech).