Tomo 21,751 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Mana said: Again, that's good and all but that is West Brom...and Morata himself scored in that game unlike today... Also that didn't happen today did it? It didn't, but despite a poor performance and woeful finishing i never felt we were as good as playing with ten, something which i felt with Torres 99% of the time. When Morata has a bad or average game, it's just that, bad or average, not the anonymous hoodini acts Torres "treated" us too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LAM09 7,051 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 He may be a better finisher but Morata is better in the air, better movement, faster and has proven this season why he should start ahead of him. This is coming from someone who is a fan of Bats. Bats finishing is better and he is good with either foot but in majority of games he has started this season, has not exactly covered himself in glory.Goals win you games and it's as simple as that. Can't be spending £70m on a CF that can't even do on a regular basis Doesn't apply to everyone but does to some Chelsea fans: Morata before December: Good player. Glad we never paid 75M for Lukaku. Morata after December: New Torres/worse than Batshuayi, needs to be upgraded on. Make your minds up eh? And some of us weren't too fond of either. I'd urge the club to go for Belotti at a cut price. P.S. Everyone here is because we love the club. Criticizing players for failing to basics has NOTHING to do with loyality. [emoji58] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I compared Morata to Torres some time ago, but that was a bit harsh. He is not as bad as Torres. But he is not far from that. Torres also played in a much worse and unstable Chelsea, I would say. Morata is sure getting more chances, not just because of his movement, but because he plays with prime Hazard and Azpi-the-Spanish-David-Beckham on the right... also with Fabregas, the pass master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, El P. said: We are not allowed to change our minds, based on his performances? No one could have predicted that he will be this awful with his feet. To be fair we all seen his finishing wasn't particularly amazing back when he was scoring regularly. But yet again he is being overly criticised by various fans, some of them who were probably the idiots who waited half a year for Torres to score his first goal against West Ham for us, there is no doubt hes on a bad run, I still think hes the best striker we could of bought in terms of current ability and room for growth. Hes got everything you'd want from a striker, sure he bottled 3 chances and has missed a few others but the one thing hes doing for me is: continuously getting chances to score which Batshuayi hasn't done to the sort of level Morata has. Even last year Costa was criticised by various fans despite scoring 20 goals? Its the same shit every year there is always some sort of complaint, I mean other than tonight (if we won nobody would give a fuck in all honestly anyway) he has missed a few sitters yes but he has got a healthy goal total for the season unlike our other attacking players, which doesn't help because already 6 months into his Chelsea career he and Eden are basically shouldering the responsibility for the whole team in terms of goals and even then they could do better at times yes. Hes hardly awful with his feet just look at his hattrick with Stoke he scored a really top class goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, El P. said: I compared Morata to Torres some time ago, but that was a bit harsh. He is not as bad as Torres. But he is not far from that. Torres also played in a much worse and unstable Chelsea, I would say. Morata is sure getting more chances, not just because of his movement, but because he plays with prime Hazard and Azpi-the-Spanish-David-Beckham on the right... also with Fabregas, the pass master. Let's not pretend as if Torres didn't play with good players. He had Mata, Hazard, Lampard and even Oscar to supply him chances! DDA, OneMoSalah and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Doesn't apply to everyone but does to some Chelsea fans: Morata before December: Good player. Glad we never paid 75M for Lukaku. Morata after December: New Torres/worse than Batshuayi, needs to be upgraded on. Make your minds up eh? Reality is probably this; Good player. Glad we never paid the 75m for Lukaku. Still needs to be upgraded on. Frankly, if you want titles, playing with main striker like Morata wont do the trick. Maybe as second striker. Chelsea has very specific system and we rely heavily on striker finishing. He is quality player with great heading and link up, but awful finishing. Im just saying, for now its allright, but if he doesnt improve his feet, he can be best header in the world with good linkup, but he wont be even close to our starting MAIN striker. I always saw him as second striker, thats why I was hoping we would keep Costa and play both, so he has future here one way or another. But I couldnt care less about my main strikers linkup abilities if he fucks up three clear goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: even Oscar to supply him chances! really dude? Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, cfcs most wanted said: really dude? Would argue that he was actually decent in his first season with us, before it all started going downhill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Let's not pretend as if Torres didn't play with good players. He had Mata, Hazard, Lampard and even Oscar to supply him chances! An over-the-hill Lampard and whatever the fuck Oscar was? Really? Even in his first season with us Oscar wasn't creative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Besides why compare him to fucking Torres? Saying he is better than Torres doesnt say much does it? Just because he is better than Torres, doesnt make him quality striker and suitable for Chelsea, does it? Compare him with Drogba and Costa. Then you see how good or bad he is. I said back in may people will regret shitting on Costa and wanting nice calm striker. Costa was reliable and quality striker for three seasons, yet fans disrespected him and wanted to get rid of him at all cost for someone more lovable. Karma at its finest, now we have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Let's not pretend as if Torres didn't play with good players. He had Mata, Hazard, Lampard and even Oscar to supply him chances! Well, I rate this team a tad higher than 2012-2014 team. Better coach, somewhat better players, more consistency. Also, let's not forget about Kante who brings us much more midfield control than Ramires and 32-yo Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Sky were showing our league winning highlights today -and so many hinged on Costa scoring at vital times. Morata is a decent replacement, but the top strikers have a ruthless killing instinct, which is lacking when it matters. The chance against Roma also comes to mind which means we now play Barcelona. Amblève. and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Amblève. said: An over-the-hill Lampard and whatever the fuck Oscar was? Really? Even in his first season with us Oscar wasn't creative An over-the-hill Lampard who contributed 25 goals (17 goals, 8 assists) while Oscar contributed 24 goals (12 goals, 12 assists) in 2012/13 and that's in his first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Sky were showing our league winning highlights today -and so many hinged on Costa scoring at vital times. Morata is a decent replacement, but the top strikers have a ruthless killing instinct, which is lacking when it matters. The chance against Roma also comes to mind which means we now play Barcelona. Putting tonight aside, most, if not all, of Morata's goals have been crucial in us getting wins. Doesn't just stat pad like some other strikers. It's just his poor finishing with his feet that's letting him down. Could so easily have scored 20 goals by now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Costa was reliable and quality striker for three seasons, Three full seasons? No way! I'd say 1 and a half season. Let's not get carried away. El P. and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Azpinator said: Three full seasons? No way! I'd say 1 and a half season. Let's not get carried away. It's that people have selective memory about Torres and Costa all of a sudden. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Only top striker Chelsea had in last 15 years, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, is Didier Drogba. Before him JFH. Diego Costa is mentioned only because Morata did what he did in last weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: It's just his poor finishing with his feet that's letting him down. Could so easily have scored 20 goals by now! Just his poor finishing. I can't emphasise enough on the fact that it should be his basic quality. The fact that by the third chance everyone was just expecting him to miss, says it all about his finishing and that is unacceptable , no matter how much his headers or positioning etc etc, the fact still remains if you score goals you're a good striker, if you don't you're a bad one, because that's what the team expected from you and you didn't provide it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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