🇪🇸 Álvaro Morata

[Special 59]

8 hours ago, El P. said:

He isn't our weakness, he is just not a top player. I may have compared him with Torres, that was a bit harsh - maybe he's like Torres from 2013 when he scored 20 goals. Same insecurity, same lack of composure. From our current squad, I would say he is on level with Fabregas.

Hazard, Kante and Azpi, with Courtois somewhat behind them, are still our best players. After them, Fabregas and Morata. And last tier would be our most average players - Alonso, Cahill, Luiz, Moses, Drinkwater. Christy and Rudy, don't know where to put them yet. And Bakayoko is of course behind all.

I’m not saying we have the best goalkeeper in the world, but our goalkeeper is good. Our defenders are good. Our midfielders are good. Not all of them are the best but they are good. And yes, I prefer a young Frank Lampard to this Fabregas. But fabregas is good. He can help us.

But Morata is weak. He can’t be our main striker. The way a player touches and controls the ball, the way he passes and... shows if he is a good player or not. 

Unfortunately Morata can’t make it here. He is weak and he makes us weak.

Strikers must be deadly. Diego Milito had 2 opportunities in 2010 champions league final and scored 2. Now look what Morata did with his chance against Manchester United. One of the funniest movements in EPL history.

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I remember Oscar also had a lot of supporters here. What happened to him will happen to Morata soon.

 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Special said:

I’m not saying we have the best goalkeeper in the world, but our goalkeeper is good. Our defenders are good. Our midfielders are good. Not all of them are the best but they are good. And yes, I prefer a young Frank Lampard to this Fabregas. But fabregas is good. He can help us.

But Morata is weak. He can’t be our main striker. The way a player touches and controls the ball, the way he passes and... shows if he is a good player or not. 

Unfortunately Morata can’t make it here. He is weak and he makes us weak.

Strikers must be deadly. Diego Milito had 2 opportunities in 2010 champions league final and scored 2. Now look what Morata did with his chance against Manchester United. One of the funniest movements in EPL history.

[Special 59]

43 minutes ago, Jason said:

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I like this boy but his accuracy is poor. I'm certain Michy or Diego would have buried that late chance... Somehow, because of a few half decent headers, he is beyond reproach in this team. And don't give me the "doesn't have enough service" bullshit that Chelsea fans default to. 

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, BlueLion. said:

I like this boy but his accuracy is poor. I'm certain Michy or Diego would have buried that late chance... Somehow, because of a few half decent headers, he is beyond reproach in this team. And don't give me the "doesn't have enough service" bullshit that Chelsea fans default to. 

He is beyond reproach because Michy is beyond bad whenever he starts games.

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, BlueLion. said:

I like this boy but his accuracy is poor. I'm certain Michy or Diego would have buried that late chance... Somehow, because of a few half decent headers, he is beyond reproach in this team. And don't give me the "doesn't have enough service" bullshit that Chelsea fans default to. 

I know Morata has missed some guilt edge chances and he's rightly criticized for that but let's not pretend as if Batshuayi and Costa did not miss them in the past.

[Leif 6,006]

Well his Nen type is definitely not Specialist.
 

[Polo7 3,496]

Ive come to the conclusion that the idiots on this forum would actual insult Messi if he played for us and missed a few goal opportunities. Moan moan moan. Thats all you fuckers do.

[The Skipper 20,609]

6 hours ago, Special said:

Now look what Morata did with his chance against Manchester United. One of the funniest movements in EPL history.

Morata literally scored the win— nvm.  

[Special 59]

Will join Oscar soon.

 

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, Special said:

Will join Oscar soon.

 

 

 

That was so frustarting to see when that happened. Why would he attempt to cut to his weaker left foot when the defender was still quite far away and De Gea was showing him all of his near post, basically inviting him to shoot there. The moment he started cutting was the moment a striker must shoot. Awful....

[Beigl 1,387]

People can post gifs of Moratas misses all day long- I still prefer him to Lukaku, who is having another absolute shocker against City right now..

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, Beigl said:

People can post gifs of Moratas misses all day long- I still prefer him to Lukaku, who is having another absolute shocker against City right now..

Puts Morata's struggles into perspective, doesn't it? Main issues with Morata now is sorting out his feet when it comes to finishing and not falling over upon the slightest of contacts. Otherwise, he's been great and yet, people have made him like the second coming of Torres. His movement is good, he's intelligent, his link up play is solid - some of the combination plays we have seen this season have been smooth, clean and delightful, something we haven't always seen with the previous strikers - and more importantly, he has shown that he can score goals. He's scored 10 in his first 21 games in all competitions (9 in league) despite this being his first season in English football and to put that into some sort of perspective - Drogba got 9 goals (6 in league) in his first 21 games, Anelka 2 in 21 (1 in league) and Costa 12 in 21 (all 12 in league).

His record isn't bad at all when you compare to some of our more prominent strikers of the past and at least, he's getting into goalscoring positions. Would be more concerned if he wasn't getting into them, like a certain a Spaniard we once had. As mentioned above, Morata has some flaws at the moment and fair enough if he gets criticized objectively but going OTT on him is just plain silly, like some have here and elsewhere. Those flaws can be ironed out over time and I would like to believe that will be the case because he has all the tools to be a top notch striker. He may not have been a permanent starter at Real Madrid and Juventus but there was a reason why he played for both clubs for a number of years and was trusted in some of the biggest games (e.g. Juventus' CL run to the final a few seasons ago), rather than just got tossed aside.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Puts Morata's struggles into perspective, doesn't it? Main issues with Morata now is sorting out his feet when it comes to finishing and not falling over upon the slightest of contacts. Otherwise, he's been great and yet, people have made him like the second coming of Torres. His movement is good, he's intelligent, his link up play is solid - some of the combination plays we have seen this season have been smooth, clean and delightful, something we haven't always seen with the previous strikers - and more importantly, he has shown that he can score goals. He's scored 10 in his first 21 games in all competitions (9 in league) despite this being his first season in English football and to put that into some sort of perspective - Drogba got 9 goals (6 in league) in his first 21 games, Anelka 2 in 21 (1 in league) and Costa 12 in 21 (all 12 in league).

His record isn't bad at all when you compare to some of our more prominent strikers of the past and at least, he's getting into goalscoring positions. Would be more concerned if he wasn't getting into them, like a certain a Spaniard we once had. As mentioned above, Morata has some flaws at the moment and fair enough if he gets criticized objectively but going OTT on him is just plain silly, like some have here and elsewhere. Those flaws can be ironed out over time and I would like to believe that will be the case because he has all the tools to be a top notch striker. He may not have been a permanent starter at Real Madrid and Juventus but there was a reason why he played for both clubs for a number of years and was trusted in some of the biggest games (e.g. Juventus' CL run to the final a few seasons ago), rather than just got tossed aside.

I think sorting out of feet while shooting is a basic quality you look for in a striker. And his record isn't bad because he has been heading the ball well, got nothing to do with his skills on the ball. And as for his diving, it's just outright frustrating to see, be a man get on with it. 

[Jase 43,479]

12 minutes ago, cfcs most wanted said:

I think sorting out of feet while shooting is a basic quality you look for in a striker.

You are right and it needs improvement but it's not entirely a disaster, is it? Remember the goals he scored at Stoke?

And heading is also important because it gives the team another option to deliver the service. If it's all just onto the feet, then it becomes predictable, no?

12 minutes ago, cfcs most wanted said:

And his record isn't bad because he has been heading the ball well, got nothing to do with his skills on the ball.

Are we seriously gonna start nitpicking how he scores the goals? Goals are goals.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

19 minutes ago, Jason said:

You are right and it needs improvement but it's not entirely a disaster, is it? Remember the goals he scored at Stoke?

And heading is also important because it gives the team another option to deliver the service. If it's all just onto the feet, then it becomes predictable, no?

Are we seriously gonna start nitpicking how he scores the goals? Goals are goals.

I'm not saying that heading goals shouldn't be counted it's a great quality to have, but it's really problematic if your main striker is missing sitters due to his inability to sort his feet out and this fact shouldn't hide behind his ability to score headers

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, cfcs most wanted said:

I'm not saying that heading goals shouldn't be counted it's a great quality to have, but it's really problematic if your main striker is missing sitters due to his inability to sort his feet out and this fact shouldn't hide behind his ability to score headers

Don't think anyone is using it to hide anything. Merely gave some sort of perspective.

[Miguelito 459]

6 hours ago, Special said:

Will join Oscar soon.

 

 

 

Didn't notice this until now, but that is some terrible goalkeeping by De Gea.  What kind of positioning is that?  He's still currently the best keeper in the league on form, but things like this are the reason he makes spectacular looking saves. Poor positioning and feet at times.

[manpe 10,861]

6 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

Didn't notice this until now, but that is some terrible goalkeeping by De Gea.  What kind of positioning is that?  He's still currently the best keeper in the league on form, but things like this are the reason he makes spectacular looking saves. Poor positioning and feet at times.

Yup, as I mentioned, he showed too much of his near post. It's like he was expecting Morata to cut inside, but I doubt it. Only thing that saved De Gea there was Morata being a headless chicken, a top striker would have buried a simple near-post shot with DDG getting nowhere near it.

[Miguelito 459]

1 minute ago, manpe said:

Yup, as I mentioned, he showed too much of his near post. It's like he was expecting Morata to cut inside, but I doubt it. Only thing that saved De Gea there was Morata being a headless chicken, a top striker would have buried a simple near-post shot with DDG getting nowhere near it.

Ah yes, i now see your post mentioning that.  Very weird decision to stand there from DDG.  

I can forgive Morata for missing that chance with the game he had that day.