nyikolajevics 2,710 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Leif said: Who's our negotiator? Marina Granovskai or Tenenbaum, it's usually them who negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 PASSING: Bakayoko – 43.4 passes per game at a 87.3% success rate, 0.4 key passes, 1 assist. Tolisso – 62 passes per game at a 83.7% success rate, 1.6 key passes, 7 assists. DEFENDING: Bakayoko – 2.4 tackles, 2 interceptions, 1.7 clearances. Tolisso – 1.8 tackles, 0.9 interceptions, 1.1 clearances. ATTACKING: Bakayoko – 0.9 shots, 1.8 dribbles, 3 goals Tolisso – 2.2 shots, 0.7 dribbles, 14 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Tolisso is quality player and will get better if we sign him I think it will spell the end off fabregas chelsea career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Any more reliable rumors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Xabi Alonso's replacement? Unless we offer significantly more money I can't see him turning down Bayern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Xabi Alonso's replacement? Unless we offer significantly more money I can't see him turning down Bayern. He'd be a squad player most likely replacing Sanchez who I would love at chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: He'd be a squad player most likely replacing Sanchez who I would love at chelsea Completely forgot about Renato Sanches. What happened to him? Just overhyped and not great, or what? He was as coveted as Mbappe last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Pizy said: Completely forgot about Renato Sanches. What happened to him? Just overhyped and not great, or what? He was as coveted as Mbappe last summer. Hasn't been used at Bayern. Still really young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Hasn't been used at Bayern. Still really youngI'd expect that to change with Alonso & Lahm retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulshizza 15 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 CONFIRMED: #Chelsea has made an official offer of € 35M to #Lyon by French midfielder Corentin Tolisso (22). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bulshizza said: CONFIRMED: #Chelsea has made an official offer of € 35M to #Lyon by French midfielder Corentin Tolisso (22). please god let this happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, akgw13 said: please god let this happen what is it about him you like? look average to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: what is it about him you like? look average to me I think he is a more appropriate partner for kante than Bakayoko, he has more vision going forward and is a threat from outside the box shooting. He can pick a pass and control our midfield all while being a bigger physical presence. Has the perfect person to learn from with Fabregas. He is just a really well rounded skillful player with a good physical profile. Conte will be able to work with him and help improve. I love bakayoko but if i had a choice of who to pair next to Kante I would take this guy. I believe they could work in a midfield 3 if we went to a 352 but if i could have only one it would be Tolisso A good link to read/watch what he brings: http://statsbomb.com/2017/01/identifying-ligue-1s-next-big-breakout-talents-1-tolisso/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, akgw13 said: I think he is a more appropriate partner for kante than Bakayoko, he has more vision going forward and is a threat from outside the box shooting. He can pick a pass and control our midfield all while being a bigger physical presence. Has the perfect person to learn from with Fabregas. He is just a really well rounded skillful player with a good physical profile. Conte will be able to work with him and help improve. I love bakayoko but if i had a choice of who to pair next to Kante I would take this guy. I believe they could work in a midfield 3 if we went to a 352 but if i could have only one it would be Tolisso I'm not sure if I agree with that, in our system we need the workhorses in the middle of the pitch. I think the creativity needs to come from wide areas the wingers and wingbacks. I think our CM's need to be able to cover ground, win back possession and plug holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: I'm not sure if I agree with that, in our system we need the workhorses in the middle of the pitch. I think the creativity needs to come from wide areas the wingers and wingbacks. I think our CM's need to be able to cover ground, win back possession and plug holes. I agree but having someone who can do both is obviously a dream scenario. I think this guy has the potential to be a workhorse with some nice skill, i asked David Amoyal a Dimarzio writer about him and he said he was a "Mini Vidal" admittedly he is a very big fan of Tolisso but I think he has the work rate and physicality to hold up in our center mid next to Kante while providing positive passes forward and a dash of creativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, akgw13 said: I agree but having someone who can do both is obviously a dream scenario. I think this guy has the potential to be a workhorse with some nice skill, i asked David Amoyal a Dimarzio writer about him and he said he was a "Mini Vidal" admittedly he is a very big fan of Tolisso but I think he has the work rate and physicality to hold up in our center mid next to Kante while providing positive passes forward and a dash of creativity Maybe I have the wrong impression of him, I thought he was more of a metronome type... Like Modric or Fab. If he is indeed more Vidal-like that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Maybe I have the wrong impression of him, I thought he was more of a metronome type... Like Modric or Fab. If he is indeed more Vidal-like that would be awesome. I think from everything ive read and seen is he is in the middle of the two types which is why I mentioned his all around ability. He can sort of be molded to whatever you see fit, his versatility is important (as quoted in the link) That scouting report shows how he has grown going forward but also mentions he can be a doberman in a 3 man midfield or excel in his current role as a double pivot. I think he is an extremely talented young player who would be a really good signing. Ideally we would be able to sign Bakayoko AND Tolisso but we will see what the clubs does. Either way i am encouraged to be linked with either prospect, they are talented, young, physical, and have some skills we currently do not posses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,091 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 22 hours ago, Pizy said: Completely forgot about Renato Sanches. What happened to him? Just overhyped and not great, or what? He was as coveted as Mbappe last summer. Definitely over hyped. No interest in Chelsea signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 This season he wasnt mini - Vidal at all. He played more advanced, improved his offense alot. But he abandoned his defensive duties quite a bit. Last season he always put great shift defensively, but its quite opposite this season since his role is to create more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: This season he wasnt mini - Vidal at all. He played more advanced, improved his offense alot. But he abandoned his defensive duties quite a bit. Last season he always put great shift defensively, but its quite opposite this season since his role is to create more. I was just quoting what someone who is more invested in the football world than I mentioned. That was the role he was asked to play, I think he has the ability to do an all around job here for us. He is an exciting prospect in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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