Corentin Tolisso

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

1 hour ago, quickpassnmove said:

If this kid is potentially a better version of M. Dembele (spurs), then why are Chelsea fartin' about with the transfer?

 

Because we don't need a better version of Dembele, we need a better version of Matic. A tall, strong defensive midfielder who helps Kanté out. I don't see how Tolisso would fit in.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

1 minute ago, nyikolajevics said:

Because we don't need a better version of Dembele, we need a better version of Matic. A tall, strong defensive midfielder who helps Kanté out. I don't see how Tolisso would fit in.

Tolisso would be the Nainggolan-esque signing that we all wanted. 

Tolisso can do it all (but obviously he's more offensive minded). But whose to say CFC shouldn't have signed both? 

Kante, Tolisso, Cesc, and Bakayoko would have covered all the skillsets needed, although im not that high on Bakayoko as others. 

 

But what's the point, CFC are allergic to ballers, so Bayern will be enjoying his services now. 

[King11Didier 916]

Screw you Bayern, first Sule, now Tolisso...

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

26 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Kante, Tolisso, Cesc, and Bakayoko would have covered all the skillsets needed, although im not that high on Bakayoko as others. 

 

Kante is the ultimate hard worker we need.

Bakayoko will be the muscle guy who kicks asses in the midfield.

Fábregas is the magic comes from the bench if needed. 

 

Chalobah is a good backup. 

 

I think we are pretty much good with these guys. We rather need to strenghten our defense(hopefully Christensen will solve our problem) and buy a new striker and a new winger. I think we shouldn't expect the guy who plays next to Kante to score a lots of goals. His job will be to defend well and to balance Ngolos weaknesses.

 

 

[mashimaru161 77]

When bayern signed sule, he said something likes it was easy to choose the third best team in the world over us (ouch!) so I bet tolisso also thinks the same....

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

6 hours ago, Rapkun said:

What was reported is: Chelsea grows tired of negotiations with Bakayoko because of a big number of intermediaries. A meeting with Lyon's president and chelsea's representatives is held. Meeting probably happened at the request of Lyon who are interested in Traore (Lacazette potential replacement). During the meeting Chelsea asks about Tolisso and Lyon expresses an interest in Zouma. There was no further details about Tolisso but it was said Zouma would not make a decision about his future yet. According to reports thats all Chelsea did, ask about Tolisso's situation.

So you mean to imply that unless someone reports it, it doesn't happen? I'll be honest, I don't think you can really believe that.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

7 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:

Because we don't need a better version of Dembele, we need a better version of Matic. A tall, strong defensive midfielder who helps Kanté out. I don't see how Tolisso would fit in.

Dembele is a better version of Matic. I consider him to be exactly the player we need. A player who mirrors his attributes is therefore precisely what I'm hoping for.

Is that Tolisso? I watched Lyon several times after he was first linked a few months ago. I like him but I have not seen that he is able to retain possession under pressure as well as the Spurs man does. Even so, I would be happy to have Tolisso. He has applicable attributes of his own.

[mashimaru161 77]

14 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Dembele is a better version of Matic. I consider him to be exactly the player we need. A player who mirrors his attributes is therefore precisely what I'm hoping for.

Is that Tolisso? I watched Lyon a few times after he was first linked a few months ago. I like him but I have not seen that he is able to retain possession under pressure as well as the Spurs man does. Even so, I would be happy to have Tolisso. He has applicable attributes of his own.

Bakayoko is what we need, strong, good in the air (kante glaring weakness) I have seen him being able to dribble pass two or three man  comes after him then pass ball to others. His passing range still leave something to be desired though.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

12 hours ago, Mufassir08 said:

What? They are reliable as far I know! I even remember them being one of the first to report that Eden was coming here.

What does reliable even mean in this context?

The appetite among football fans for transfer rumours is voracious. The willingness of agents, clubs and players to provide the stories which feed those rumours, for their own purposes of course, is endless. Media outlets therefore have a plentiful supply of material and they know they can make money by giving audiences what they want.

In order to achieve "reliability", those outlets would need to filter out the rumours they know to be plants. In a wildly competitive market however they know their audience can get that same rumour somewhere else. Filtering stories therefore has the potential to cost them revenue.

When no one really expects the  majority of transfer stories to be accurate anyway; when online revenues are so hard to come by; and when they can honestly claim to have a source for a story, then aren't we asking too much of them to make the sacrifices necessary to achieve reliability?

In any case, there is often a direct, reciprocal relationship between media and sources. "If I get this obvious plant out there for you, you owe me when you have something real to say. Deal?"

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

1 hour ago, mashimaru161 said:

Bakayoko is what we need, strong, good in the air (kante glaring weakness) I have seen him being able to dribble pass two or three man  comes after him then pass ball to others. His passing range still leave something to be desired though.

I also like Bakayoko.

Indeed, as I said in my first post about Tolisso all those months ago, I really like the quality of player we are being linked with recently. That comment was true then, and is mostly true now.. I remember some seasons when, never mind the players we actually signed, even the ones we were linked with weren't great.

[Rapkun 668]

8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

So you mean to imply that unless someone reports it, it doesn't happen? I'll be honest, I don't think you can really believe that.

Normally, I would agree. but in this case Chelsea just enquired about Tolisso in a meeting held by another team to sign one of our players. It happens that clubs ask about multiple players during meetings. It was probably just an attempt to have a plan B in place in case the Bakayoko deal fell through, or a negotiation tactic to show that they're interested in other players. I'm pretty certain Bakayoko was the number 1 target all long and that's a real shame.

Tolisso is very versatile, a great athlete, scores loads of goals, decent passer, brings a lot of energy in the game. Timeoue is very different.

[The Skipper 20,609]

21 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Dembele is a better version of Matic. I consider him to be exactly the player we need. A player who mirrors his attributes is therefore precisely what I'm hoping for.

Is that Tolisso? I watched Lyon several times after he was first linked a few months ago. I like him but I have not seen that he is able to retain possession under pressure as well as the Spurs man does. Even so, I would be happy to have Tolisso. He has applicable attributes of his own.

No, Tolisso is an all rounder in the mold of Ballack/Lampard. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

2 hours ago, The Skipper said:

No, Tolisso is an all rounder in the mold of Ballack/Lampard. 

Yes, I agree with this.

In his younger days, at AZ in particular, Dembele did opperate further forward, but he's found his home in the role he plays for Spurs.

[Last Sicarius 610]

Sad very sad. We should get him instead or with Baka. He would be great sign for years. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

1 hour ago, Last Sicarius said:

Sad very sad. We should get him instead or with Baka. He would be great sign for years. 

Reasons? What don't u like about baka?