closed Arsenal 3-0 Chelsea

[Hutcho 8,443]

We got some serious shit to sort out

[Atomichazza 3]

And people that voted Cahill as worse players over Ivanovic need to watch the match again.

[BMox81 193]

Anyone seen Hazard? He was last seen sneaking out of the Emirates with another 200k stolen from our club.

Bloke is a myth.

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3 minutes ago, Atomichazza said:

And people that voted Cahill as worse players over Ivanovic need to watch the match again.

I have to disagree.

as bad as ivanovic was, and he was, goals change games and cahill's gift made a difficult game a hell lot more difficult.

wasnt good enough in the second staying too far away form the player as sometimes he does. He seems to only tackle/show aggression inside the box.

[Atomichazza 3]

Just now, Robguima said:

I have to disagree.

as bad as ivanovic was, and he was, goals change games and cahill's gift made a difficult game a hell lot more difficult.

wasnt good enough in the second staying too far away form the player as sometimes he does. He seems to only tackle/show aggression inside the box.

But who caused Cahill's mistake? Ivanovic that's who, same against Swansea, plays a stupid pass when under no pressure, could just hoof it long but plays short, turns away and doesn't track once he see's the mistake. Putting Cahill under pressure on his weaker foot against a pacey striker. Basic common sense, and the fact it's identical to the one against Swansea makes it worse.

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3 minutes ago, Atomichazza said:

But who caused Cahill's mistake? Ivanovic that's who, same against Swansea, plays a stupid pass when under no pressure, could just hoof it long but plays short, turns away and doesn't track once he see's the mistake. Putting Cahill under pressure on his weaker foot against a pacey striker. Basic common sense, and the fact it's identical to the one against Swansea makes it worse.

Completely disagree.

if Cahill needs that much time on the ball then he simply isn't good enough at this level.

didnt his body language after the mistake tell you all you needed to know?! He did not complain or open his arms to Iva complaining about the back pass (it was fine) he just realized immediately it was on him.

[Polo7 3,496]

Was absolute shambles today, there was no shape to the team. It was like they were playing together for the first time.

[mccg 1,528]

Willian,Cahill,Ivan,Pedro,Keeper,Matic,could do with a good benching/holiday/fuckoffing asap

[Atomichazza 3]

Just now, Robguima said:

Completely disagree.

if Cahill needs that much time on the ball then he simply isn't good enough at this level.

didnt his body language after the mistake tell you all you needed to know?! He did not complain or open his arm to Iva complaining about the back pass (it was fine) he just realized immediately it was on him.

If Ivanovic knows which he should that Cahill is bad with his feet then he shouldn't pass to him simples. Cahill is a blocker, he throws his body about and is good in the air. Not a passer or dribbler. If you watch Chelsea most weeks you'll notice that no one complains to Ivanovic, I've never seen it, not even JT does. It might be his personality or they don't get on. I'm not denying Cahill made a mistake but if we had Dave at RB the goal against Swansea and tonight's wouldn't have happened I guarantee it. Notice how Cahill and Luiz were good back in the days of Bayern in the Champions League final when Ivanovic wasn't present. Now all of a sudden they are always covering him, and unorganised. People jump on the Gary Cahill hate bandwagon to quickly, he's been a good servant to Chelsea.

[cosmicway 1,333]

I 've seen some aging cb's commiting horrible mistakes but three own goals in three consecutive matches is a world's first.

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1 minute ago, Atomichazza said:

If Ivanovic knows which he should that Cahill is bad with his feet then he shouldn't pass to him simples. Cahill is a blocker, he throws his body about and is good in the air. Not a passer or dribbler. If you watch Chelsea most weeks you'll notice that no one complains to Ivanovic, I've never seen it, not even JT does. It might be his personality or they don't get on. I'm not denying Cahill made a mistake but if we had Dave at RB the goal against Swansea and tonight's wouldn't have happened I guarantee it. Notice how Cahill and Luiz were good back in the days of Bayern in the Champions League final when Ivanovic wasn't present. Now all of a sudden they are always covering him, and unorganised. People jump on the Gary Cahill hate bandwagon to quickly, he's been a good servant to Chelsea.

And what a complicated pass it was !
Next thing to say is "if Ivanovic knows which he should that Cahill is not a footballer he should have packed the ball and take it home".

[Essien19 1,415]

Bad day at the office, but these things happen. New manager, understandable that he needs more time to find his team: Arsenal and Pool are no pushovers. Game had traits of Arsenal vs. Van Gaal's United all over it, they also scored 3 goals in style, but overall wasn't of much use.

• For the life of me i don't understand why Willian didn't go for goal after Costa's pass, no surprise Costa talked to him afterwards. He worked hard, he's the best option available, imo.
   
• Cahill is a good lad and worked his socks off in the past, but for quite some time it's not working anymore. But i can't really fold him, he just doesn't know any better. But his mates aren't helping him either, remember him needing Courtois to come out but he went into hiding. Zouma and Terry will come back, Cahill's time is up. But no need for insults.
   
• Costa is reaching new heights. He's Chelsea's best player this season, have to respect him for what he's been doing so far. Outstanding!
   
• Fabregas should be benched again, offers little to nothing, Conte was right to bench him before, imo. Hazard, the boy isn't just that good, but with the ball at this feet, he can decide a game. Should be criticized, but no better option available. And of course he's a fan favorite, so i'll leave it there.

Honeymoon is clearly over, bubble burst, but the attacking play has improved. The team will come good, people need to have some faith during a rough period. Team will finish within the top 4, imo.

Had a good laugh reading that some individuals already want Conte's head, no time in modern day football, i guess. So many people seem to know better than most managers, praising the likes of Van Gaal while leaving out their flaws, can't stop shaking my head.

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40 minutes ago, Robguima said:

Of course not.

but this is hardly on the manager at this time... He's doing what every fucking manager does when starting a new job: play the established staring xi.. At least initially.

however, the lack of aggression and ball watching STARTING from the frontline (except Costa) has little to do with the manager that's just players not pulling their weight.

yes the midfield was also overrun because the tracking players did not do a good job harassing arsenals defense line. Arsenal attacked us with too many players... 

I never liked Cahill as a player, but at his moment we just can't play him because we start the games losing with him on the pitch.

and yet conte does not have many options in the back line... Some of us have been warning about it during the very lackluster transfer window.

There is no one here who failed to recognise the weaknesses in the squad.  No one who did not see the need for a major overhaul. Indeed many of us, most of us even, have been talking about it for years and that no doubt includes you.

The disputes about the transfer window were not about whether we needed players, but about how we  should go and get them.

[Tomo 21,751]

Already three more pages than the Leicester match thread, I rest my case

On the game however, Conte screwed it up, their is a clear blueprint for Wenger's Arsenal since late 00s and that's sit back, stop them playing and hit them when they overcommit, Fergie created it, Jose, Carlo, Moyes and Hiddink adopted it and Conte should have done the same, hopefully he does when we get those cunts again.

As for Cahill, I love the fact he plays with his heart, but he is a limited player who will hopefully be third choice when JT and Kurt are fit.

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

On the game however, Conte screwed it up, their is a clear blueprint for Wenger's Arsenal since late 00s and that's sit back, stop them playing and hit them when they overcommit, Fergie created it, Jose, Carlo, Moyes and Hiddink adopted it and Conte should have done the same, hopefully he does when we get those cunts again.

TBF Tomo, you can't expect anything else when the players are performing rubbish defensively and giving goals away cheaply.

[Johnnyeye 7,509]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Already three more pages than the Leicester match thread, I rest my case

On the game however, Conte screwed it up, their is a clear blueprint for Wenger's Arsenal since late 00s and that's sit back, stop them playing and hit them when they overcommit, Fergie created it, Jose, Carlo, Moyes and Hiddink adopted it and Conte should have done the same, hopefully he does when we get those cunts again.

As for Cahill, I love the fact he plays with his heart, but he is a limited player who will hopefully be third choice when JT and Kurt are fit.

thats what i dont get, why change the blueprint when it has always worked against those karnts for the past seasons? we have the personnel for that, but this team lacks confidence and concentration so bad, we gifted them the game end of.

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This is also Mourinho fault..he fucked up all players last season with his mentality

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29 minutes ago, Jason said:

TBF Tomo, you can't expect anything else when the players are performing rubbish defensively and giving goals away cheaply.

We were even worse defensively last season yet two easy clean sheets vs these lot.

We played into Arsenals hands today and they killed us, you don't play high and try to play out the back against Arsenal, it's suicide.

If Conte followed the usual blueprint we would be celebrating three points tonight, I've still got faith in him, but when it was reported he wanted to attack Arsenal from the off I thought oh no.

[Tomo 21,751]

32 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

thats what i dont get, why change the blueprint when it has always worked against those karnts for the past seasons? we have the personnel for that, but this team lacks confidence and concentration so bad, we gifted them the game end of.

You're preaching to the converted mate, let's hope Antonio follows the Fergie blueprint when Arsenal come to The Bridge.