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7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Not sure what that has to do with football, people make mistakes in life but it’s not like you know him personally is it? JT Wayne Bridge thing was the same.

Did you just say killing a person and having sex with a teammate's ex is somehow just as bad?

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1 hour ago, manpe said:

Did you just say killing a person and having sex with a teammate's ex is somehow just as bad?

No I meant both were obviously mistakes of different severity but when it comes to a football discussion, not sure why it’s brought up. 

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23 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

JT slept with a mans ex. Not quite the same as getting drunk and driving is it? Especially when this sort of thing is beat into your head from the moment you get a license. It was "Bad" it was a crime, and he'd be in jail if he wasn't a rich footballer.

He comes up with goals, but defensively he is slightly better than a Zappacosta, who also isnt good enough if we are being honest.

Rich anything rather - being a footballer has little to do with it. He wasn't that famous either.

I'm mostly against current DUI laws, because what precisely is being criminalized by DUI laws? The wrong substance in your blood while driving? (others are allowed) This is a long discussion, but even the statistics used to promote DUI laws have all causality incorrectly assessed. One thing I can guarantee is that law enforcement (as well as lawyers) all over the world, is really concerned about driverless cars. :) Uber already ate into DUI by a lot, driverless cars will just put an end to it.

With that long caveat out of the way, in the case of Alonso, the DUI law makes perfect sense because he committed a crime. His alcohol impairment (many diff things can impair human beings enough to disrupt driving) contributed to causing a fatal accident, hence the criminalization makes sense. Of course being rich always makes you appear less "impaired" to society.... 

Now back to football :) I think TC fans have the team they deserve: a key player who does not score a lot. A striker who does not score much and an overall squad with few goal scorers.

After all, the one player who keeps on scoring important goals for us is constantly criticized for having the same characteristics he always had before we signed him. And after all he just scores lots of important goals, which in football is not that important.... being a low scoring game, what's a goal anyway? ;)

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On 30/01/2018 at 4:50 AM, Footballover said:

What are you even talking about? Alonso is a very good footballer, he was amazing for us last year and continues to provide the goods this term, even, if rightly so, he is a little bit burned out. The man is working his socks off every single game for the last year and can't even get the sheer acknowledgment for that from our fans.

I have no idea what are your expactations from a left wing back but all in all I can assure you there are not many better than this guy. I am really not sure if your beloved Alex Sandro is better than him this season. Anyway, you don't need a world class player in every position and I think our LWB position is the least of our problems. 

Alonso needs rest and needs competition, but he is a good player and gets no recognition for his great service at this club, and really I'm quite tired of seeing people bashing him after every game (like really, what wrong did he do yesterday? he was slow?). Some of you here even try to take the credit off his goals because he is a wing back (?!)... Somehow only Chelsea fans see all these wrongs...

 

Nobody has ever downplayed his commitment, just his ability to be a LWB. The basic requisites for a LWB for me are Good crossing, speed, Defensive ability, tracking back etc. Alonso isn't too good in Defensive positions, and neither has the speed or agility to be a wing back, the goals and his attacking vision are a great thing to have obviously, but this really shouldn't mask his other inabilities. Of course you don't need to have a World class player in every position, but you do need someone who'll atleast fit into the position, and his abilities qualify him more as a poacher rather than a wing back.

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3 hours ago, the wes said:

Manchester United 'plan raid on Chelsea for Marcos Alonso' as Jose Mourinho eyes defensive reinforcements

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-plan-raid-chelsea-12211642.amp

Yeah...and he'll turn Alonso into the Ivanovic of Man United. :lol: 

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Not sure what he has to do to get some credit. People talking about letting us sell him to United but he was very solid v Leicester. Called up for Spain too. No mean feat considering the options they could call up. Throw in the fact he has 6 PL goals this season too. 

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People will never get over the fact that he isn't the typical wingback you would grow in a lab if you could. Alonso's unorthodox and so are his defensive mistakes for a LWB but he makes up for it in areas in which other wingbacks/fullbacks constantly fail; for example, his lack of pace will cause him troubles that your standard LWB doesn't have but on the other hand Alonso has great concentration and anticipation and almost always shows those qualities in 1-vs-1 situations where most wingbacks and fullbacks would overcommit early and have to rely on their recovery as the majority of classic wingbacks and fullbacks does.

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