John Terry

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Oh yeah...I'm sure you didn't mean to........

No offence, but it's a Chelsea forum. People are going to mention things about matches, atmosphere etc. (and not just to slag the home support off again, as I noticed some were doing in the match thread).

[robsblubot 3,595]

maybe u r right in defending cech there. and while i keep saying it was a moment of brilliance from aguero, i still feel cech could have done a little better had he been positioned better.

anyways coming to GC's part in the goal. this clip from TOPTB is awesome. look at agueor at 6 seconds. he starts taking a run behind GC but just lingers on/ holds his run for a second (probably even takes a step back from the goal to be played on). u have to say thats a phenomenal run from a striker.

It was good run but not that special; there are a number of strikers and FW that can do the same move, esp the pacey ones. It's a very common play for South American players. Even Corinthians' Guerrero did that against Cahill a few times during the WCC match. I can remember Defoe, and others benefited from Garry's slowness before.

The fact that JT is certainly slower than Cahill, but is not so easily beaten is just proof of how good a player he is. People only talk about the reading of the game here, but technique is also very important: not only to pass the ball once you take it, but also to take it in a way you can keep it. Can't regain possession with blocks...

[Blue Armour 4,436]

The quality of Aguero's there (sic) has simply been underrated.

Wow, that was easy.

Cahill makes the right move. He can't see Aguero (because he's behind him) but he's expecting him to make a curved run off of Terry and into the channel Cahill is monitoring. It's fantastic forward play combined with a well-timed ball.

Aguero's job there is to cause confusion and he does that better than most strikers.

But if you disagree, you disagree. Aguero's run reminds me of the runs Crespo used to make for us though, and they're very hard to defend against (although Hernan was usually called offside by linos who simply weren't used to that type of run).

After looking at the highlights I have to agree...Cahill might have lost him, but Aguero does really well to stay just onside and beat the offside line Cahill and Terry were trying to play.

Cahill is not Terry, so I wouldn't expect him to make the right decision against strikers like Aguero every single time. But that doesn't change the fact that for the bulk of the matches we play, he's a solid and dependable option for the manager.

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Cahill is not Terry, so I wouldn't expect him to make the right decision against strikers like Aguero every single time.

That's the whole point, though, and that's why he'll only ever be a good squad player and never starter material for a top team like Chelsea.

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Goal has two mistakes in it. Firstly Cahill isn't aware of Aguero's positioning even though he should be. Secondly Cech made an arse of attempting to save it. Still if Cahill manages to catch him offside there is no goal or if Cech saves it there is no goal. Both mistakes are equally as bad I feel because if one of them doesn't make the mistake then its not a goal. Simple as that.

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That's the whole point, though, and that's why he'll only ever be a good squad player and never starter material for a top team like Chelsea.

Never disagreed with that fact. I did say, in this thread (or the Luiz one, I don't exactly remember) that when fit and on form, Luiz is a better option.

But as others have pointed out, Mourinho has to make a decision when some players are in better form than others. And,as of now, Cahill has made more of his starting opportunities this season than Luiz has.

[Jase 43,479]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned anything about Long's goal regarding Terry. I mean what the heck was he (and even Lampard) doing there trying to just block off and let the ball drop and not aware of Shane Long behind him?!

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He's got no pace and there's nothing we can do about it. We have to sit deep to play him, he's been playing well but when you play another paceless centre half in Cahill, we suffer even more as not only do we give opponents more space in front of our back four, the players can't close down quick enough.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned anything about Long's goal regarding Terry. I mean what the heck was he (and even Lampard) doing there trying to just block off and let the ball drop and not aware of Shane Long behind him?!

He made a mistake, for sure. But to be fair, he hasn't made too many, so far this season.

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He made a mistake, for sure. But to be fair, he hasn't made too many, so far this season.

Yet again, the same old reason to excuse someone of their mistake. I'm sorry. Not buying into that. Should be doing better in trying to clear the ball away ASAP rather than doing what he did and cost us a goal.

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Yet again, the same old reason to excuse someone of their mistake. I'm sorry. Not buying into that. Should be doing better in trying to clear the ball away ASAP rather than doing what he did and cost us a goal.

Wasn't really excusing him...I did say it was a mistake.

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Wasn't really excusing him...I did say it was a mistake.

But then why bring up a point that wasn't completely mentioned?!

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Wasn't really excusing him...I did say it was a mistake.

Yes but that's far too moderate of a view to take. It doesn't matter that he's been something of a rock this season, dealing with alternating partners who throw in the odd blunder, every mistake must be brought up and made a big deal of.

Oh, and I'm awaiting the

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Yes but that's far too moderate of a view to take. It doesn't matter that he's been something of a rock this season, dealing with alternating partners who throw in the odd blunder, every mistake must be brought up and made a big deal of.

Oh, and I'm awaiting the

Oh yet more irony from the joker..

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Oh yet more irony from the joker..

For the second time you've misused the term 'irony'.