Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Will Terry leave with Chelsea tomorrow to the states for pre-season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Finally! it was so obvious from the start! i hope Capello sues the F.A now. CHOULO19, zolayes, Duppy Conqueror and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Absolutely delighted for Terry, a figure of hatred in the media and the mass public but we never wavered in our support of him.I would have paid good money to see Rio Ferdinand's reaction as the verdict was being read out. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 it looks like brian swanson is gonna get in a fight on SSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I was just saying you couldn't see what he was saying, and we have to wait what is happening at court, but straight after the first day it was clear there where no reasons to think terry had lied in this case, he did before (e. g. betraying his wife, or kicking sanchez in UCL) but not this time...its legal and good to wait before you give youre judgement on things, because everythign else is blind...Yeah this is why the he said/she said thing is a stupid thing for accusation.If we take this trial we can also conclude that Suarez was innocent as well, because of the lack of evidence and Suarez was not racist cause Negro is a common word used in South America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 http://t.co/NggE6vP8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Except that he lost his captaincy and his reputation was further tarnished over a case in which he was found not guilty.That's not what I am saying and I notice a lot of people here not understanding the verdict. Not guilty is not the same thing as proven innocent. It just means that the burden of proof to establish guilt has not been met. Not every person who is found not guilty is innocent. In order to successfully sue Ferdinand, Terry would have to1) Prove that he didn't say anything racist (absolutely impossible either way)2 Prove that Ferdinand knew that Terry didn't say anything racist and that he was lying and maliciously set out to frame Terry (not possible to prove)3) Prove that he was harmed by Ferdinand's "lie" (easier, but still not a slam dunk, losing a captaincy is a prestige thing, but Terry has not lost any money from this which is the easiest way to show harm.)The only course of action for Terry (also the best one) is to let it go, and get back to football. royg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 FA still looking at the case though... Though its been proven it wasn't racist, so unless they give him a ban for bad language in which case they would have to give bans to every bloody player in the league.Man on SSN trying to say that everyone is appalled about the fact they said bad words.... was it Rooney saying" it's a disgrace... the foul mouthed bastards should be banned" ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 HA! In your face Ferdinand!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-john-terry.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 So then, he isnt as stupid as thought:http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-john-terry.pdfAs Mr Carter-Stephenson points out, there are a number of discrepanciesbetween this witness’s evidence and other evidence. Specifically he points tothe film evidence showing a challenge inthe penalty box. This shows that MrFerdinand’s account is wrong and thatMr Terry was not blameworthy forclaiming a foul and therefore a penalty. He points out that the evidencesuggests that Mr Ferdinand himself lost control by following Mr Terry, angry,and insulting him over and over again. He points to the discrepancy betweenthe witness’s memory of what he is shouting (at an earlier stage) and the lipreading evidence There are discrepancies between the evidence of Mr Cole andMr Ferdinand. In cross-examination Mr Ferdinand at first appeared to denythat Mr Terry said, in the dressing room, “do you think I called you arefucking black cunt?” In fact this was in his statement as one of twoalternatives. There is another piece of significant evidence, namely that he didnot in his statement provide full and accurate details of the words he used toMr Terry shortly before the comments at the centre of this trial. It is clear thathe was offered the opportunity to add to his statement by the police, butdeclined. This is an important fact and I will return to it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Duppy Conqueror and Invasion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2848665,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchercoat 60 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Let this be the end of this affair, I wonder what that great twitter brother Rio is saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Just read the 13 page judgment, I think this was very important:"There is then the fact that nobody (apart from John Terry) has given evidence about hearing what was said. Either nobody heard it, or nobody was prepared to come to court and tell me what they heard. Anton Ferdinand says he did not hear it. The defence pointed out that this is surprising as the words were clearly directed at him at a time when he was facing John Terry and involved in an exchange of insults with him. I bear in mind the significant distance between the two men at the time; the noise; and the evidence of Mr Cole that he could not hear what was said by either person." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavy Crockett 190 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 :myword: Justin_3d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Thank god this is over with. Amazing it got to court. What is worrying though is the number of people willing to accept something and argue that when they clearly have no idea of the facts. Too many people seem to believe it is a FACT that JT used those words to abuse AF, but still got off. No he got off because there is not a soul in the world who heard JT abuse AF with those words, and no-one to counter JT's version of events.Now we wait for the FA to bow to pressure as usual and probably give JT a ban..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Thank god this is over with. Amazing it got to court. What is worrying though is the number of people willing to accept something and argue that when they clearly have no idea of the facts. Too many people seem to believe it is a FACT that JT used those words to abuse AF, but still got off. No he got off because there is not a soul in the world who heard JT abuse AF with those words, and no-one to counter JT's version of events.Now we wait for the FA to bow to pressure as usual and probably give JT a ban.....For what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 For what?Using the words "fucking black cunt." There's a big chance JT gets a ban.They threw the book at Suarez without knowing for sure, they could do the same to JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Rio, where are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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