zolayes 14,489 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Imo, your examples are too diverse.I simply point out the hidden life of racism in the game, that needs to be dealt with in an example-standard. Though your first example, remember how homophobia almost ruined Le Saux's career? There's some food for thought there.do you really advocate a LIFE BAN for 3 words said in the heat of the moment???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Imo, your examples are too diverse.I simply point out the hidden life of racism in the game, that needs to be dealt with in an example-standard. Though your first example, remember how homophobia almost ruined Le Saux's career? There's some food for thought there.Indeed. Racism does need to be stamped out -but would you equate homophobia ? ie Calling a player a faggot or bender, should they be thrown out the game ?Not having a go, but it comes to something when not one Premier league, or any league player come to that, is comfortable in coming out and saying he's gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Imo, your examples are too diverse.I simply point out the hidden life of racism in the game, that needs to be dealt with in an example-standard. Though your first example, remember how homophobia almost ruined Le Saux's career? There's some food for thought there.I can't see how you will ever 100% eliminate racism or homophobia in football, while it still exists in society. I also do not think that the FA are up to the job of handling it either.......the more I read quotes from Paul Elliott(an ex black Chelsea player), the more I think he should be handed a senior position in the FA on this issue(if he does not have one already)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Exactly, it seems that footballers are above the law, they are given a second chance because they are footballers. That wouldn't happen in the real world.We will find out just how fair the FA is with the Suarez & Terry cases.For sure! There's no way they can be unequal in these cases. If anything the Evra-Suarez one must be more clear, looking at Evra's reaction (when it happened) alone tells us a thousand words of what could've been said. The Terry one only comes from an interpreted video, which is still unclear.do you really advocate a LIFE BAN for 3 words said in the heat of the moment????That's true. Perhaps a life-long ban is a lot, in hindsight. A lengthy ban though, must be held.Indeed. Racism does need to be stamped out -but would you equate homophobia ? ie Calling a player a faggot or bender, should they be thrown out the game ?Not having a go, but it comes to something when not one Premier league, or any league player come to that, is comfortable in coming out and saying he's gay.That's a good point too. Football is a very, very, harsh environment. But a homosexual person only needs to take one look at how race is targeted in the game sometimes & it's no wonder they don't feel comfortable.I can't see how you will ever 100% eliminate racism or homophobia in football, while it still exists in society. I also do not think that the FA are up to the job of handling it either.......the more I read quotes from Paul Elliott(an ex black Chelsea player), the more I think he should be handed a senior position in the FA on this issue(if he does not have one already)...Too true.The FA are never impartial. A separate committee, independent of the FA & PFA must be set up for cases like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 For sure! There's no way they can be unequal in these cases. If anything the Evra-Suarez one must be more clear, looking at Evra's reaction (when it happened) alone tells us a thousand words of what could've been said. The Terry one only comes from an interpreted video, which is still unclear.That's true. Perhaps a life-long ban is a lot, in hindsight. A lengthy ban though, must be held.That's a good point too. Football is a very, very, harsh environment. But a homosexual person only needs to take one look at how race is targeted in the game sometimes & it's no wonder they don't feel comfortable.Too true.The FA are never impartial. A separate committee, independent of the FA & PFA must be set up for cases like this.Paul Eliiott should head this up, a real intelligent man who has had terrible first hand experience of racism (Celtic and Italy).....plus he nevers appears bitter, both in his racial abuse and when his career was ended prematurely by that wanker Dean Saunders.......Elliott is the man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcherfromafar 11 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'm certainly no racist and don't think very highly of people who are, but suspension? For spoken words? Really?Cultural difference I guess. I will support a person's right to say something even if I hate the words they say. The step too far would be a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'm certainly no racist and don't think very highly of people who are, but suspension? For spoken words? Really?Cultural difference I guess. I will support a person's right to say something even if I hate the words they say. The step too far would be a threat.What if Terry called him a ni**er? Then would it be a step too far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcherfromafar 11 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 What if Terry called him a ni**er? Then would it be a step too far?No. Even that word, is just a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 No. Even that word, is just a word.Words hurt, it's naive to think otherwise. Especially the context of that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcherfromafar 11 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I think it is better to have the freedom to speak and sometimes that means controling your emotions when words hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 13 years ago today John Terry made his debut for Chelsea Football Club . He is a hero to many and a racist to none . And i for one will be sticking up for the Captain of my Club and my Country . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 13 years ago today John Terry made his debut for Chelsea Football Club . He is a hero to many and a racist to none . And i for one will be sticking up for the Captain of my Club and my Country .As will I.. If he's innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 If found guilty, I'd be okay with an 8 match, roughly 2 or 3 month ban. Not a lifetime ban...He's not guilty, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Its not like he called him a ni--er.Would JT be offended if he was called a fucking white?Would Suarez be affected if he was called a fucking brown?I doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 And the thing is if there are cases when a player is banned for racism then you have another player who ends another mans career and then only end up with a few match ban and a fine....everything will have to be taken into context.Dont get me wrong not supporting anyone using the choice words and they should be punished but a life ban and yet a player who has cost others gets a slap on the wrist.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Words hurt, it's naive to think otherwise. Especially the context of that word.Sticks, stones and all that?Even if in the remotest chance it was said, it would have been in error; how can anyone say it was with malicious intent? More than half of JT's team-mates are colored and I'm sure he has no ill-feelings towards them because of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 This whole thing is really starting to piss me off, I hope JT responds in the best way possible tomorrow by scoring against the dirty gooners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 JT to score a goal tomorrow. Winner most probably.....He did that at Burnley after the media went crazy over his affair with Bridge's ex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I would love to see Torres celebrating his hat trick tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Who will be our next captain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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