The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Getting thrown under the bus by our own fans even though he was the best CB in England last year after a bit of a bad start of the season. Great. Liquidator, LondonsFinest, MrExcalibur100 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeholiday 209 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's been a long day without you, my friendAnd I'll tell you all about it when I see you againWe've come a long way from where we beganOh, I'll tell you all about it when I see you again Last Sicarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Never A red card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Wow, doesn't take long for even a guy like John Terry to be hung out to dry by some fans. Shocking, but not surprising. Maybe Courtois should take some of the blame for not reading the situation by coming off his line to get that. Blue-in-me-Veins and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Getting thrown under the bus by our own fans even though he was the best CB in England last year after a bit of a bad start of the season. Great.3 months is a long time in football, sometime a player's last hurrah is one of his best ever season. Look at Drogba 09-10, he was never the same again after despite scoring 30+ goals. MU team 2012-13 and countless other examples of top players having one last great season before declining massively.Basically he is showing his limitations when the team is not accomodating him with low defensive line. If Stones come if we are honest there is no place for him in the starting 11 anymore and that also means the end of his career here as I doubt he would want to be a sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It was a red card but aside from the sending off JT was good. He saved Zouma a couple of times at the start of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The red card was very harsh, but He's too slow for a high line, one through pass and my grandma is through on goalYour grandma is a 20 something baldie from Venezuela? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Wow, doesn't take long for even a guy like John Terry to be hung out to dry by some fans. Shocking, but not surprising. Maybe Courtois should take some of the blame for not reading the situation by coming off his line to get that. Coming from you? IRONY. You moan and groan about every player Lol. Kieran. and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Getting thrown under the bus by our own fans even though he was the best CB in England last year after a bit of a bad start of the season. Great.No one said he wasn't the best. He will still have great games this season but we need someone faster for our defence. Btw, I said this same thing last year during his stellar season. It's not because of form, I just think we need someone fast and someone who can be relied on to come out on top when he's on an island 1 on 1.Ivanovic is the same really. You get behind either of them and they aren't able to recover and will always give up a foul. I want more Zouma's, who might make more mistakes but at least have the ability to recover. Off topic from the current discussion:I think to go the next level we need to prioritize buying or bringing through CBs who are reasonably quick and good on the ball. This is a controversial opinion but I think our CBs are holding back the full potential of this team.I'm not saying they are bad, Terry and Cahill have been fantastic and Zouma is a great talent but I don't think they fit the playing style Jose really wants. Our CBs don't complement our defensive philosophy of high pressing. It's honestly a huge testament to the players and the coaching staff how good they've made it work. A more competent CB pairing will help considerably in controlling games and further improve our pressing because it's almost stupid to be pressing high with a medium to low defensive block. You're forced to ask the midfielders to cover a lot of ground.A quicker and CB pairing better on the ball will improve our pressing considerably considering we'd be able to play a high line and it would improve our ball possession considerably as well. We severely lack a CB that could bring the ball out of defence, especially when teams try to congest the midfield and man mark Cesc. Not sure why I said Zouma there. Imo Zouma is fine, we need a ball playing CB to partner him though. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 John Terry has never had the pace, but it's never been a problem for him. He's still the same player he was last season or 4-5 seasons ago. He's just had an unfortunate start to the season, that's all. Against City, it was Cahill that was getting burned by Aguero, but JT was the one that got subbed out, and 1-0 went to 3-0. Even today, he was having a good game up to till the red card which wasn't entirely his fault. Anyone who thinks Stones is better than Terry right now is seriously deluded.And Fabregas involvement in our defensive woes is being completely ignored. I think there are far bigger problems with our team right now than John Terry. The Skipper, Kezza and Amblève. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Your grandma is a 20 something baldie from Venezuela?She's sexy and you know itDeal with it mediator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 She's sexy and you know itDeal with it If this were a Facebook post, Wayne Rooney would like it. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's not black or white, JT is still the best defender in the league, or at least amongst the 3 best, it's a matter of profile. He isn't fast anymore, when the team is confident and protecting him, he's awesome, when we need to play a high line and opponents start playing through balls behind Iva and JT's back, we're exposed. We still need him, but José is starting to alternate to a higher ligne with faster defenders, and that's what Zouma's start shows today.Captain Leader Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Terry has suffered tougher times but this week hasn't been easy and gotta feel sorry for him. Nothing is going his way at the moment.On that red card, think it was the right call. One of the camera angles showed he was holding onto Rondon as he went down. The latter might have appeared to slip but there was contact on him. Kezza, LDN Blue and Amblève. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 nothing going right... it happens sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 She's sexy and you know itDeal with it BOBFOC!!Everyone knows the days a comin when captain reliable is time to leave us.Now do we want him to leave us with all our memories of him class or do we want him to lumber on slow,being subb'd,with those who love him wanting his head?IF we get Stones/Varane I'd like them to take Cahills place now. Letting JT wear them in showing them the Chelsea way, with Zouma on rotation with him. Then next season We get Happy in next to them fully.Its gotta come and its the best way for us and him IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Getting thrown under the bus by our own fans even though he was the best CB in England last year after a bit of a bad start of the season. Great.So if you were good last season you are above all kind of criticism? Only by constantly expecting the best can Chelsea remain in the position they are. Besides, wanting to rotate Terry out of the team is hardly throwing him under the bus, blind loyalty is not a good thing. Madmax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Pff it was an "orange" card. It's been given as a yellow before, it was a very light shirt pull and had he not done that there would be no dispute. The striker was looking for it though, that little contact does not usually make you go down. Meh, I'm not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Ah, the eventual decline of Captain, Leader, Legend. No-one can deny that it was coming, the picture was being painted long before this and John can do nothing but hold his head up high in pride!He'll go out fighting, that's for sure. He wants to be there, he wants to prove it to himself and to everyone else. But alas, he must come to terms with the fact that when you're at a top club and you're on the wrong side of 30, your actions will be under a microscope. I empathise tremendously with him, it's not really his fault that things seem to be going awry at the moment. That whole defensive unit needs a shake up and he's not the only one at fault.However, he's now approaching 35 and in the pipeline comes a fresh 21 year old, talented, defender. Terry must step up to the plate now, become a mentor to Zouma and Stones.. Train with these lads, teach them what he's learned in 35 years.I hope and hope that Terry won't be sour about his predicament right now. I hope we won't see him sulking and whining and bitching to the media, I hope he stays with us beyond this season and eventually eases himself out and takes up coaching perhaps!John Terry, we salute you for years of leadership and graft! Amblève. and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 So if you were good last season you are above all kind of criticism? Only by constantly expecting the best can Chelsea remain in the position they are. Besides, wanting to rotate Terry out of the team is hardly throwing him under the bus, blind loyalty is not a good thing. Not saying that at all. It's just sad that 2 and a half games into the season, people have already given up on JT. CurlyHairLikeLuiz and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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