Henrique 9,133 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Weeks ago the team got a similiar result, under similar circunstances against Spurs. Team played with a false 9, created few chances, and most people here were saying the football was solid, Mourinho got it right, turning point of the season, result was decent because was a 0-0 against a team in the top half of table.Now it seems its a nightmare, and after two games and less than two weeks in charge, Hiddink is already clueless. About the "kids", a away game against a United that need a victory so bad is not really the perfect game to start players that never started a PL game before, like Kenedy and Traore, or even Loftus Cheek, specially when Matic was easily the man of the match, and Mikel was decent.In the future games he must stop playing Ivanovic as a RB, and restore Azpilicueta to his natural duties. Zouma is better than Cahill, and Guus should not even consider starting Cahill again.Mikel might be a good quick solution, but this team won't be winning many games while he is in the field, since he offers nothing going forward. Matic and Hazard were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The fired one mismanaged this team so badly that nobody was going to come in and turn things around in two games.This team has been set up for failure - it's going to take a while to recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Is John Terry picking the side, because I can't see the point of sacking Mourinho to bring in a manager and nothing changes. So we have to question who picks the team, and I'm guessing it is the captain. Surely Hiddink has been watching videos of the shit he is now in charge of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivefootball 195 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Lets see next week if he brings any new idea to our team. Too soon to say he is shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Should have got Brendan Rodgers in as an interim manger, he would have promoted youth and played attacking football... This is turgid stuff.A manager who was completely shown up by, amongst others, Jose Mourinho is your choice because you'd rather draw a game like this 3-3 than 0-0.....at best!,That's the issue I have with he board, Roman and some of the fans. The words Jose Out came easy....the next few explaining who'd they like in didn't. The calls for Pep were the most hilarious.And now we've got a coach who has done nothing of note for 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The fired one mismanaged this team so badly that nobody was going to come in and turn things around in two games.This team has been set up for failure - it's going to take a while to recover.That's absolutely disgusting, is it Mourinho's work that Hiddink decided to play with no striker up top , no, it wasn't it was his own choice and he should take all the blame for getting a draw out of a game that we really should have won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Weeks ago the team got a similiar result, under similar circunstances against Spurs. Team played with a false 9, created few chances, and most people here were saying the football was solid, Mourinho got it right, turning point of the season, result was decent because was a 0-0 against a team in the top half of table.Now it seems its a nightmare, and after two games and less than two weeks in charge, Hiddink is already clueless. About the "kids", a away game against a United that need a victory so bad is not really the perfect game to start players that never started a PL game before, like Kenedy and Traore, or even Loftus Cheek, specially when Matic was easily the man of the match, and Mikel was decent.In the future games he must stop playing Ivanovic as a RB, and restore Azpilicueta to his natural duties. Zouma is better than Cahill, and Guus should not even consider starting Cahill again.Mikel might be a good quick solution, but this team won't be winning many games while he is in the field, since he offers nothing going forward. Matic and Hazard were great.Spurs were a team in really good form at that time, can't say the same about United who are in shatters. So, going for a draw was a really poor choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Weeks ago the team got a similiar result, under similar circunstances against Spurs. Team played with a false 9, created few chances, and most people here were saying the football was solid, Mourinho got it right, turning point of the season, result was decent because was a 0-0 against a team in the top half of table.Now it seems its a nightmare, and after two games and less than two weeks in charge, Hiddink is already clueless. About the "kids", a away game against a United that need a victory so bad is not really the perfect game to start players that never started a PL game before, like Kenedy and Traore, or even Loftus Cheek, specially when Matic was easily the man of the match, and Mikel was decent.In the future games he must stop playing Ivanovic as a RB, and restore Azpilicueta to his natural duties. Zouma is better than Cahill, and Guus should not even consider starting Cahill again.Mikel might be a good quick solution, but this team won't be winning many games while he is in the field, since he offers nothing going forward. Matic and Hazard were great.It's amazing how Mourinho's supporters have so quickly got on Hiddink's back As if he wasn't the one that got us into this shit in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Spurs were a team in really good form at that time, can't say the same about United who are in shatters. So, going for a draw was a really poor choiceNot when we're in the position we are in.Man U been poor against better sides.We're not one of them.Considering the amount we've lost a draw was a good result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I wasn't expecting much of a result, especially when we have no strikers to start the match with. I think there are things that should've been changed such as taking off oscar earlier or play Azpi on the right to deal with Martial but other than that there is nothing much he could've done with this team. We are seriously lacking quality and to be honest a draw was one of the better result we could've gotten. People are jumping on Hiddink way too fast. Yea, it would be nice to get 3 points more but this was the sort of games we were losing with Jose. You cannot get instant results all the time, it's real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Is John Terry picking the side, because I can't see the point of sacking Mourinho to bring in a manager and nothing changes. So we have to question who picks the team, and I'm guessing it is the captain. Surely Hiddink has been watching videos of the shit he is now in charge of?Even if he has watched our previous matches, do people really expect dramatic changes from him after 1 week and 2 games? And regarding the underperforming players, who can he drop them for? There's only so many he can drop and playing the youngsters won't guarantee instant improvement. They might do better or heck, even worse. It's going to take some time for Hiddink to get this team into decent shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 It's amazing how Mourinho's supporters have so quickly got on Hiddink's back As if he wasn't the one that got us into this shit in the first place Hiddink needs time, but he also needs a lot of backing because the club showed no ambition in the summer.Also I think you need to stop with this whole 'mourinhos fans' stuff. Yes it's the internet but we're all Chelsea supporters at the end of the day so why don't we all treat each other like we would in real life. Unless you'd actually call people fanboys as some would on here in a pub pre match in which case I'd like a front row seat to that show.We all wants what's best for the club tomorrow, so what purpose does rehashing the past serve?Instead focus on ways in which we could entice Pochettino here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Bit early to judge.yeah hasn't had the impact everyone thought he would straight away but he ain't a miracle worker.This is nothing like last time.We're way way way way worse.Give time at least.True, I remember we started slow with Benitez and then picked up.For now year over, January is here so let's see what we can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Hiddink needs time, but he also needs a lot of backing because the club showed no ambition in the summer.Also I think you need to stop with this whole 'mourinhos fans' stuff. Yes it's the internet but we're all Chelsea supporters at the end of the day so why don't we all treat each other like we would in real life. Unless you'd actually call people fanboys as some would on here in a pub pre match in which case I'd like a front row seat to that show.We all wants what's best for the club tomorrow, so what purpose does rehashing the past serve?Instead focus on ways in which we could entice Pochettino here.Because some Mourinho's fans are really annoying. Not all, obviously, but some. They take their support of a Chelsea manager to a cult like level, almost on par with the support they show for the club. I think you know the type I'm referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Even if he has watched our previous matches, do people really expect dramatic changes from him after 1 week and 2 games? And regarding the underperforming players, who can he drop them for? There's only so many he can drop and playing the youngsters won't guarantee instant improvement. They might do better or heck, even worse. It's going to take some time for Hiddink to get this team into decent shape.Do you think he can? I'll be honest I haven't followed his career since he left but what's he done to make you think he's capable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Because some Mourinho's fans are really annoying. Not all, obviously, but some. They take their support of a Chelsea manager to a cult like level, almost on par with the support they show for the club. I think you know the type I'm referring to.You mean the types who sing his name at matches still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Why he would come here and do the exact same thing Jose did is beyond me. He is probably listening to what Steve Holland is telling him.I'll give up on Guus if I see Oscar and Ivanovic in the teamsheet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Even if he has watched our previous matches, do people really expect dramatic changes from him after 1 week and 2 games? And regarding the underperforming players, who can he drop them for? There's only so many he can drop and playing the youngsters won't guarantee instant improvement. They might do better or heck, even worse. It's going to take some time for Hiddink to get this team into decent shape.If he ever does, its tactically as well as personnel that need sorting. If he wanted to change something it would have made perfect sense to play hungry players with something to prove -Kennedy, Traore and Loftus Cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 You mean the types who sing his name at matches still?I don't really take the chanting of his name seriously. Fans are always going to chant whatever they want. It's more camaraderie than anything. You hear a lot of random chants at grounds.The kind I'm referring to are the ones that say they don't mind us getting relegated, so long as he doesn't get fired. Or say we should replace most of our squad and keep Mourinho as manager. Basically the kind that think Jose can do NO wrong and can never disagree or question his decisions and behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Because some Mourinho's fans are really annoying. Not all, obviously, but some. They take their support of a Chelsea manager to a cult like level, almost on par with the support they show for the club. I think you know the type I'm referring to. Because that understand that a manager could only do so much when he has got players like Oscar, Fabregas, Ivanovic, cunts like costa and open goal misses like matic and Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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