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[Rhino's Skin 972]

So why attend to promote a negative atmosphere then? Mourinho acted as if he did not care about the club tbh. ll the negative headlines he created, Carneiro and let's not forget it was Mourinho himself who criticised the fans so he is not this god like loyal person everyone thinks he is. If you are turning up to the match to jeer players, why don;t you just get tickets in the away end because they are not really supporting the team are they?

You just havent got a clue about support at matches works

[Stats 7,160]

You just havent got a clue about support at matches works

Erm, piss off. I don't want to be rude but don't tell me I don't know how support works. I go to matches on a regular and I will be there on Saturday to listen to the ridiculous boos of our own players and constant worshipping of the God Mourinho. I think I do no how support works. You support your team, not boo them when they are playing or receive the ball. Allegiance to the man and not a club. Do not condone it.

[didierforever 7,349]

So why attend to promote a negative atmosphere then? Mourinho acted as if he did not care about the club tbh. ll the negative headlines he created, Carneiro and let's not forget it was Mourinho himself who criticised the fans so he is not this god like loyal person everyone thinks he is. If you are turning up to the match to jeer players, why don;t you just get tickets in the away end because they are not really supporting the team are they?

because fans actually care about the club. unlike some of the players. no matter what their problems were with jose, they had no right to go on the pitch and put in those half-hearted performances. and they had every right to boo the players like cesc and costa.

as for jose, he critisized the fans when we rightly were poor. a lot of us last season or so said that the support was poor. there were even threads about it. jose also praised the fans for what they did this season. so including this in the argument is just a no-go for me.

yes, he made mistakes with eva, the pathetic team selection, his favouritism. no one is disputing that. but for the players to play the way they did and acted and have absolutely no repurcusions will be simply pathetic.

like i asked in one of my previous posts, what if next season they dont want that manager too, what then. they can again put in half hearted performances, put the club in a pitiful situation until the management decides to throw them out? sorry, simply not how things should be.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Erm, piss off. I don't want to be rude but don't tell me I don't know how support works. I go to matches on a regular and I will be there on Saturday to listen to the ridiculous boos of our own players and constant worshipping of the God Mourinho. I think I do no how support works. You support your team, not boo them when they are playing or receive the ball. Allegiance to the man and not a club. Do not condone it.

Support just doesnt buy their tickets so they can boo or jeer a player......that is what you inferred above.

25K of that support buy ST's at an average of 1K a pop....

They do not buy them with the intent of booing or jeering someone.

You making a statement that tickets are bought for that reason tells me you dont know much about matchday support

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Erm, piss off. I don't want to be rude but don't tell me I don't know how support works. I go to matches on a regular and I will be there on Saturday to listen to the ridiculous boos of our own players and constant worshipping of the God Mourinho. I think I do no how support works. You support your team, not boo them when they are playing or receive the ball. Allegiance to the man and not a club. Do not condone it.

P.s.what the fark do you think we have been doing the previous 15 games.....you should know the answer...you go on a regular basis

[Laylabelle 9,546]

End of the day everyone's going to have a different opinion especially on something like this.Fans are pissed off some at Jose for his part and some at the players for their performance and attitude.Doesn't make anyone less of a fan/care less/not support the club etc.

Chance to let feelings know and that's how they chose to.I can't see it lasting more then a few games especially if performances improve and players show they are capable of performing

[Stats 7,160]

because fans actually care about the club. unlike some of the players. no matter what their problems were with jose, they had no right to go on the pitch and put in those half-hearted performances. and they had every right to boo the players like cesc and costa.

as for jose, he critisized the fans when we rightly were poor. a lot of us last season or so said that the support was poor. there were even threads about it. jose also praised the fans for what they did this season. so including this in the argument is just a no-go for me.

yes, he made mistakes with eva, the pathetic team selection, his favouritism. no one is disputing that. but for the players to play the way they did and acted and have absolutely no repurcusions will be simply pathetic.

like i asked in one of my previous posts, what if next season they dont want that manager too, what then. they can again put in half hearted performances, put the club in a pitiful situation until the management decides to throw them out? sorry, simply not how things should be.

Like Tomo said before, the players don't intentionally throw the game away. There are a lot of factors. Did Gladbach before they sacked Favre, intentionally lose there games even though this was a manager who guided them to UCL for the first time ever IIRC. After all the new manager who had no top flight experience guided them to a string of wins. Does that mean they intentionally decided to play for the interim? No, just different ideas and motivated them more and got more out of them.

That is what happened yesterday and I hope will continue under Hiddink. The players have been bad yes but we need to continue to get behind them in hope that they turn around just like the fans backed Mourinho, even when he is gone.

Support just doesnt buy their tickets so they can boo or jeer a player......that is what you inferred above.

25K of that support buy ST's at an average of 1K a pop....

They do not buy them with the intent of booing or jeering someone.

You making a statement that tickets are bought for that reason tells me you dont know much about matchday support

I don't know what you are on about regarding tickets. My simple point is going to the stadium to worship a man who deservedly got sacked and boo the players who played apart like Mourinho is unacceptable. Well if there was no intention of jeering yesterday, what was the intention? I found it embarrassing tbh.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Like Tomo said before, the players don't intentionally throw the game away. There are a lot of factors. Did Gladbach before they sacked Favre, intentionally lose there games even though this was a manager who guided them to UCL for the first time ever IIRC. After all the new manager who had no top flight experience guided them to a string of wins. Does that mean they intentionally decided to play for the interim? No, just different ideas and motivated them more and got more out of them.

That is what happened yesterday and I hope will continue under Hiddink. The players have been bad yes but we need to continue to get behind them in hope that they turn around just like the fans backed Mourinho, even when he is gone.

I don't know what you are on about regarding tickets. My simple point is going to the stadium to worship a man who deservedly got sacked and boo the players who played apart like Mourinho is unacceptable. Well if there was no intention of jeering yesterday, what was the intention? I found it embarrassing tbh.

You found it embarressing...most support wanted to get that off their chests once they were in the ground and the match started.

We have supported players who are playing bad and get mugged off for it by those that dont go.

Yesterday was just one match.

Take it from me....the boos will die down and soon there will be cheers of Diego or Magic hat again especially if they put in a shift and earn our respect.

I want to see them fight for that ...not sulk because a few boos went their way.

We are in a tough place and we need characters who will take the criticism and turn it into a positive for themselves and for us

[Rhino's Skin 972]

@ stats

look mate,

at the end of the day we all want the team to stand up and be counted.

Of course the support will help.

Enjoy the match v Watford....and I dont know where you are sitting/standing...but be loud, be proud and be carefree

[Stats 7,160]

@ stats

look mate,

at the end of the day we all want the team to stand up and be counted.

Of course the support will help.

Enjoy the match v Watford....and I dont know where you are sitting/standing...but be loud, be proud and be carefree

Agreed mate. I think you are a quality poster and have offered a lot of interesting thoughts in the months you have been here. I just was frustrated at the fans jeering. But yeah mate, let's enjoy the game and hopefully we can string 2 consecutive wins together in the league finally. Enjoy the game :blue scalf:

[didierforever 7,349]

Like Tomo said before, the players don't intentionally throw the game away. There are a lot of factors. Did Gladbach before they sacked Favre, intentionally lose there games even though this was a manager who guided them to UCL for the first time ever IIRC. After all the new manager who had no top flight experience guided them to a string of wins. Does that mean they intentionally decided to play for the interim? No, just different ideas and motivated them more and got more out of them.

That is what happened yesterday and I hope will continue under Hiddink. The players have been bad yes but we need to continue to get behind them in hope that they turn around just like the fans backed Mourinho, even when he is gone.

i did not see gladbach so i wont comment on them.

what i saw yesterday was a team with more intent, with more purpose and with a lot more effort.

how many times did jose publicly say that costa needs to be in the box, did he? NO. yesterday he actually stood there. blame jose for the right things. i will too. but also appropriately put the blame on the players where they deserve it.

you think they did not intentionally do it. a lot of us, including majority of match going fans think otherwise and not witout reason.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Erm, piss off. I don't want to be rude but don't tell me I don't know how support works. I go to matches on a regular and I will be there on Saturday to listen to the ridiculous boos of our own players and constant worshipping of the God Mourinho. I think I do no how support works. You support your team, not boo them when they are playing or receive the ball. Allegiance to the man and not a club. Do not condone it.

Don'tt participate then? we still sing all the general songs...

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Thise ruffians in the shed eh....not like us cultured mob in MHL ;-)

Not a fan of there anymore... last time I went in there with my dad this ginger prick behind told me to sit down and stop singing and my dad got sent out for having a fag at the back!

[Fulham Broadway 17,374]

You were up there? What was that about, saw it from below in the lower section and a load of people standing up and doing wanker signs lol

some bloke in a beige jumper wanted to fight evetyone. Like the old days

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Bit late as I had to leave right after the final whistle. Happy with the win and happy with the way we've played.

I'm nobody to judge the loyal match going fans, but their attitude was wrong IMHO. Eden, Cesc, Diego Costa rats according to who? Some deluded journalists trying to sell their papers? Come on... They'd look like fools if someone comes in three years time and reveals those players' name and none of them is Eden, Cesc and Diego Costa.

Azpilicueta has not bombed forward that much since his Marseille days and you tell me it's not Mourinho's fault? Give me a break.

He's restricted so many players from offensive duties and now that he's gone they felt it's the right moment to relax for a bit and play their natural game, but still it's their fault right?

HOW THE HELL WAS CHELSEA SUPPOSED TO PLAY LIKE THEY DID YESTERDAY IF MOURINHO DID NOT LET THEM PLAY LIKE THAT? They should have what? Tell Mourinho they are not following his 19th century tactics and will play the way they want from now on? Would not have that been a dressing room riot as well?

Oscar was all about backheel one-twos and rabona crosses yesterday. His best game in a long while. Wonder why is that? It's so easy to play your game when you have a plethora of teammates in front of you and you're not made to run like a rabid dog in defense over and over again.

Read Rummenigge's statement on Van Gaal's sacking at Bayern, especially the attitude part. You could as well replace "Van Gaal" with "Mourinho". It's the exact same situation. It all stays in the attitude - managers like Mourinho and Van Gaal have to have success. Otherwise they loose everything because of their disgraceful antics.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Not a fan of there anymore... last time I went in there with my dad this ginger prick behind told me to sit down and stop singing and my dad got sent out for having a fag at the back!

Since Jose had a pop about atmosphere ...we are allowed to stand all game now.

MHL 12 and 13 can be a good crack...even the stewards have been laid back

[Starman60 1,343]

I've been thinking this through and I came to realize that it's Mourinho's fault. At least most of it. He clearly lost it at a certain point. He lost it. Things were going great, we won the league, we were good. But something happened. And I tend to put the blame on him because I remember most of the times when he made all of us look like pathetic fools by giving scandalous statements after we lost games. Remember how many times he blamed the referees, the opponents, the pundits, the players, basically everyone else but himself? Imagine if he's like that in the locker room too. Imagine if his tactics prove to be wrong, but he blames you, as a player, for everything. You can't just accept everything. At a certain point, things go too far. Just like Mourinho went too far with his press statements. And looking back at these two and a half seasons, one league title and one Capital One Cup don't seem to be enough. It just doesn't justify all the sacrifices that we made under him. We sacrificed the club's image, we sacrificed enjoyable football, we sacrificed a lot. I am sorry, but that's how I see things. He's good, but not THAT good.

Good honest and factual post. And true.....Nice one.

[Starman60 1,343]

Bit late as I had to leave right after the final whistle. Happy with the win and happy with the way we've played.

I'm nobody to judge the loyal match going fans, but their attitude was wrong IMHO. Eden, Cesc, Diego Costa rats according to who? Some deluded journalists trying to sell their papers? Come on... They'd look like fools if someone comes in three years time and reveals those players' name and none of them is Eden, Cesc and Diego Costa.

Azpilicueta has not bombed forward that much since his Marseille days and you tell me it's not Mourinho's fault? Give me a break.

He's restricted so many players from offensive duties and now that he's gone they felt it's the right moment to relax for a bit and play their natural game, but still it's their fault right?

HOW THE HELL WAS CHELSEA SUPPOSED TO PLAY LIKE THEY DID YESTERDAY IF MOURINHO DID NOT LET THEM PLAY LIKE THAT? They should have what? Tell Mourinho they are not following his 19th century tactics and will play the way they want from now on? Would not have that been a dressing room riot as well?

Oscar was all about backheel one-twos and rabona crosses yesterday. His best game in a long while. Wonder why is that? It's so easy to play your game when you have a plethora of teammates in front of you and you're not made to run like a rabid dog in defense over and over again.

Read Rummenigge's statement on Van Gaal's sacking at Bayern, especially the attitude part. You could as well replace "Van Gaal" with "Mourinho". It's the exact same situation. It all stays in the attitude - managers like Mourinho and Van Gaal have to have success. Otherwise they loose everything because of their disgraceful antics.

It also helped that Sunderland were pure shite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

It also helped that Sunderland were pure shite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It did indeed but whould Chelsea have played the same football with Mourinho in charge? Me thinks not.

[Peace. 4,352]

During World War One, a lof of German officers were jews. Germany's defeat was a big problem for the German people because the were bred to the notion that Germans were the strongest people etc..., that is, they were the superior race. Since they were the strongest, how could they lose against those frog-eaters and tea-drinkers ? Two options : either because the 'German myth' was not true ; or they were non-German 'traitors' within the ranks. Since it was rather problematic for people that had presumed for many year that their country and race was the best, it was more convenient to opt for the second option, that is the non-German traitors.

For this purpose, jews were designated as these non-German traitors as they suited the role pretty finely. They were deemed as not 'fully Germans'. And because of that, they neither were strong enough (they were piano players, no conquerors—that is, they were 'pussies') and nor did they care enough to not let down Germany. So that's it, they were the culprits. It had to be them because it was impossible for the German race to lose against French or British (and these filfy slaves).

We are today in the same situation. You have people that label some of our players as 'rats', 'snakes' and 'traitors'. They do so because it is too difficult for them to accept the fact that the myth—i.e. the myth that Mourinho can do no wrong, that he is the best, that he is Chelsea and that he was here to create a dynastie—they believed in for the past three years is naught but a myth. Because it is too difficult to accept that what they dreamed to be true is no longer there, they come up with easy-made excuses : if it did no work, it has to be because of external elements, that is, non-Chels' traitors. And that's how people elaborate stupid theories such as 'Fabregas the snake'—a theory that is proven wrong a few hours after by Mourinho himself.

By the way, before anyone uses the 'offended' posture (i.e. 'you compare us with Nazi ?!!'), I am not implying that these people will end-up killing jews like Nazis. I am just comparing two tribal and primal reactions that make no sens at the exception of hiding one's desilusion. To be honest, this whole affair is pretty stupid and appealing..