Eva Carneiro Leaves Chelsea

[herzogian 148]

IMO Eva Carneiro has a problem of Super egocentrism and she is forgetting that she's just a doctor.

If she wants to go to the courts, OK, fine, but she is pathetic. She must thought that she was more important than Roman.

Your reaction seems more emotional than rational. Understandable since you're propably a huge Mou-fan, but a bit unfair towards Carneiro. As an employee she has every right to fight the way she was handled by her employer. While strictly speaking the employer is not Mou, he is in an important position and was instrumental in her departure from the club. Every employee has the right to challenge such situations be it the Chelsea team doctor or a factory worker. This has nothing to do with egocentrism or a cry for attention, it's about justice.

[supporter 3,088]

usually your posts have at least some value . This is possible your worst .. There is only ONE super ego in the club and HE is the cause of this shit ,,

BTW if you or a loved one was critically ill ,, would you say "She is just a Doctor " and go to Jose.?

Zolayes, when I say "She is just a Doctor" I do not want to discredit doctors or medicine. I have great respect for doctors. As it can not be in any other way.

What I mean is that Eva Carneiro is important as a doctor in the field of "medicine", but not in the field of "football" where important are the players, the clubs, the fans ... and maybe Eva Carneiro thought she was as important as our players, as Roman, or more important than Chelsea.

Right now we are in a horrible time and Eva Carneiro takes two months fanning the flames of our fire to worsen our situation with the support of the press.

But, please, we must be serious, Eden Hazard did not have any major injury and Eva and the another doctor were wrong. I think we can not trivialize this issue comparing what happened with Eva and say that when someone "attacks Eve for her behavior" is like make a critique against all doctors.

Doctors are probably one of the most important figures in our society and they deserve all my respect. But it is different the "medical field" than the "football field". And everyone has to know what their role is in their work. In the "medical field" are the doctors who generate information (an information which is unquestionable and indispensable through his work). And in the "football field" are the players - managers- clubs who generate information (a job which is less important to society than the medicine and the doctors).

But here we are talking about football. And Eva Carneiro is not a football star but she is generating information against us everyday. IMO Eva is wrong.

But, again, all my respect for doctors, for those who are lucky to be doctors in a great team like Chelsea, and also for those who are doctors in a neighborhood in London or Madrid, or those who fight day after day in Europe, Africa, Asia ... or anywhere to save lives. All my respect for them.

[supporter 3,088]

Your reaction seems more emotional than rational. Understandable since you're propably a huge Mou-fan, but a bit unfair towards Carneiro. As an employee she has every right to fight the way she was handled by her employer. While strictly speaking the employer is not Mou, he is in an important position and was instrumental in her departure from the club. Every employee has the right to challenge such situations be it the Chelsea team doctor or a factory worker. This has nothing to do with egocentrism or a cry for attention, it's about justice.

I respect the rights of workers mainly because I am also a worker and with my salary I have to help my parents and my brothers (which I do with a great pride because they are imporant for me) because right now in Spain is very difficult to find a work.

But in my work I know where my place is and I would never try to disobey my boss, and if I am relegated to another place, I accept it and continue working with my company (in my case a public company).

But Eva was relegated to not be on our bench and she did not accept it.

She has the right to go to court. Agree. But IMO she is wrong because the club didn't sent her away, was Eva who quit his job supported by the social pressure of the media.

[Clockwork 1,794]

She doesn't seem to realise that football is a business. Bayern's doctor of 40 years was sacked by Pep and took it with good grace. Have we heard Jon Fearn pipe up at all? Nope.

Eva rhymes with diva, afterall.

She has a right to complain for her demotion but Mourinho totally has a point: there is a game situation which physios must be aware of.

Medics have no obligation to the manager and the tactical side, their obligation is the players health. That is not a interpretation of their job description, it is a stated truth.

I would like you to consider what happened with Fabrice Muamba who suffered a cardiac arrest during a game, and Piermario Morosini who died during a match. Ultimately Medics are aware of these rare cases, a prompt response could be the difference between life and death. Preventing such incidents should be avoided at all cost.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I respect the rights of workers mainly because I am also a worker and with my salary I have to help my parents and my brothers (which I do with a great pride because they are imporant for me) because right now in Spain is very difficult to find a work.

But in my work I know where my place is and I would never try to disobey my boss, and if I am relegated to another place, I accept it and continue working with my company (in my case a public company).

But Eva was relegated to not be on our bench and she did not accept it.

She has the right to go to court. Agree. But IMO she is wrong because the club didn't sent her away, was Eva who quit his job supported by the social pressure of the media.

lets get this right...unless it stipulates in her contract she specifically has to be on the bench on matchdays (and being on it is regarded as a higher position than not being on it) then she was not demoted or relegated.

She kept her job title and just didnt turn up for work for the next few weeks before leaving the club.

Whether that was down to being traumatised due to the alleged treatment by Jose and the club.....who knows...it will come out in the wash.

There is also the issue that this was just the tip of the iceberg regarding her ( again allegedly )

At the moment, she hasnt claimed for any type of discrimination (hard to prove with Jon Fearn involved ) but we do not know behind the scenes what has happened, so if constructive dismissal is what she is after then I suggest that this is not about the money/compensation but rights and self esteem

[Fulham Broadway 17,334]

End of the day she is after money and a pay off like most of us.

To be honest if Man city or Arsenal want to be cute and capitalise, what better snub than to have her running on to mop Girouds brow or rub Agueros bollocks when we play them

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Medics have no obligation to the manager and the tactical side, their obligation is the players health. That is not a interpretation of their job description, it is a stated truth.

I would like you to consider what happened with Fabrice Muamba who suffered a cardiac arrest during a game, and Piermario Morosini who died during a match. Ultimately Medics are aware of these rare cases, a prompt response could be the difference between life and death. Preventing such incidents should be avoided at all cost.

That isn't what I'm saying, and they do have an obligation to the manager as they are part of his backroom staff. Eva didn't understand the game situation. By going onto the pitch to give treatment, it meant we'd be reduced to nine men. She misread the game situation. There is a difference to being aware of anaphylactic shock, cardic failure, etc., and realising someone has gone down to con the referee into giving a cheap free-kick.

[11Drogba 2,000]

Bayern's doctor of 40 years was sacked by Pep and took it with good grace. Have we heard Jon Fearn pipe up at all? Nope.

Showing a pushover's silence as if it is a good thing is a typical argument bullies frequently use.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Showing a pushover's silence as if it is a good thing is a typical argument bullies frequently use.

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[xPetrCechx 13,573]

She doesn't seem to realise that football is a business. Bayern's doctor of 40 years was sacked by Pep and took it with good grace. Have we heard Jon Fearn pipe up at all? Nope.

Eva rhymes with diva, afterall.

She has a right to complain for her demotion but Mourinho totally has a point: there is a game situation which physios must be aware of.

Frean is still here Btw?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Frean is still here Btw?

As far as I'm aware, yep.

[nowhereman 7]

game situation my ass. she was asked by the referee himself twice to come in and treat Hazard. if she had declined to obey his order, she would have broken a doctor's professional code of conduct.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

game situation my ass. she was asked by the referee himself twice to come in and treat Hazard. if she had declined to obey his order, she would have broken a doctor's professional code of conduct.

I cannot believe that the incident you mention and the aftermarth are the 100% reasons why she left the club.

There just has to be more to it and if rumours are right, this had been simmering all summer and that incident was the straw that broke the camels back for everyone involved

[manpe 10,861]

That isn't what I'm saying, and they do have an obligation to the manager as they are part of his backroom staff. Eva didn't understand the game situation. By going onto the pitch to give treatment, it meant we'd be reduced to nine men. She misread the game situation. There is a difference to being aware of anaphylactic shock, cardic failure, etc., and realising someone has gone down to con the referee into giving a cheap free-kick.

She's a doctor, not a coach or a manager. Her job is to treat those who are injured, not understand game situations. Hazard appeared to be injured indicated by the ref evaluating the situation and calling on the medics. If Mourinho was so sure that he was faking it, then the first thing he should have done was turn to his bench and TELL his staff what they need to do... you know, actually MANAGED instead of going berzerk at people who were fulfilling their hippocratic oath. He considers himself to be the biggest genius of all time, does he expect other people to be the same? Or is his ego too big to share his brilliance with those who he's working with?

In my eyes this situation was 100% on Mourinho. Absolutely unnecessary and now he's reaping the "rewards" for his big mouth and telepathic powers. Father, son, husband, manager, psychic.

Tbf we should reserve judgement until we learn something from the actual trials. Right now it's all thin air speculation and our best source is a fucking lip reader.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

She is forgetting that she's just a doctor.

She's a doctor. Mourinho is 'just a football manager'.

If you get a heart attack tomorrow and both are in the same room with you, think about which one has the most valuable job.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

She's a doctor. Mourinho is 'just a football manager'.

If you get a heart attack tomorrow and both are in the same room with you, think about which one has the most valuable job.

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

I know, it's the way he's wording it. Still, she didn't make a mistake, she got called on the field by the referee and Mou acted like a complete lunatic.

[Fulham Broadway 17,334]

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

Spot on. However much the media want peo9le to side with Carneiro, the bottom line is there are 20 000 doctors, one or two managers capable of raising millions of revenue for the business. Both employees, but one brings in more money. Thats all that matters when its boiled down

[supporter 3,088]

She's a doctor. Mourinho is 'just a football manager'.

If you get a heart attack tomorrow and both are in the same room with you, think about which one has the most valuable job.

This is a message to johnnythefirst but I can not give to "QUOTE".

To be honest, I'm bored with this issue. Here we are to talk about Chelsea and football, not to discuss if the medicine is more important than football. In life, medicine is more important, without any doubt, but here we are talking about football and everyone who is on a professional bench of a team in the elite must understand football, the "legal football" and the "other football", which is for smart people like when you are winning 1-0 and you lose time in a corner to gain time until the referee blows to end the match . That's the "other football.". And Eva (and the other doctor, which no one seems to remember him) did not understand how the "other football" works because we should not lose another player (Eden Hazard in this case) on the pitch when there were two minutes to finish the game and we had a free kick in our favor. That's all.

And let me tell you something, I think you can not trivialize on the subject of medicine. It seems to me infantile and inappropriate to compare what happened with Eden Hazard and when a player suffers a heart attack on the pitch during a match or when a person in his normal life suffers a heart attack. I think both situations do not have any relationship and is a very unpleasant comparison. You have to know that we are all people and some of us may have suffered the loss of a dear person in our family / friends and is unpleasant to hear how someone compares a heart attack with a player who simply received a kick.

I think All of us must be serious, respectful and adults. No one can trivialize with some issues.

And finally, I apologize if I've upset someone with some of my comments because it was not my intention. I hope I have clarified in this post what I think on this issue and I will not continue any discussion. Sorry if I upset someone.

For my part, this issue is totally finished and I will not discuss with anyone else about this because I want to talk about Chelsea and Football. GO BLUES!

[nowhereman 7]

Of course you're bored, cause your idol Mourinho is undefendable in this situation. I hope one day someone close to you gets fired/demoted because they just did their job professionally when requested by a person in authority TWICE.