Pedro Rodríguez

[oldportblue 547]

Isco is not world class. We also had a much better player than Isco and Mourinho sold him to United in favour of Oscar. Genius move.

mata much better than isco? don't know about that one mate...

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Isco is not world class. We also had a much better player than Isco and Mourinho sold him to United in favour of Oscar. Genius move.

Isco is better than Mata, for once he does actually track back now. He bailed out Madrid a few times last season such as against Valencia...etc while Mata can hardly even start for MU for the majority of last season.

Isco might not be 'world class' but he is VERY VERY GOOD, that 2nd level below world class if you define world class as Suarez, Neymar, Messi, Hazard, CR7...etc but then 95% of other players in the world are not world class.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

So what? Kaka went to Real Madrid at Pedro's age and he was shit, by your logic that is supposed to be impossible just because Real are a 'better team'. Costa has a better goal scoring record here, that's even with being out for almost a third of the season. Hazard has improved his goalscoring record here. So I do not believe it is beyond the realms of possibility to say that Pedro can score 15 goals a season as a starter considering he's scored more than that at Barca. You think he's going to come here and suddenly turn into Willian for some reason? That is even less likely.

He's no willian, he has no intelligence! But playing in that Barca side inflates stats, so I'm very skeptical. And only those two seasons were stand out ones.

[The Mak 4,459]

mata much better than isco? don't know about that one mate...

Isco is better than Mata, for once he does actually track back now. He bailed out Madrid a few times last season such as against Valencia...etc while Mata can hardly even start for MU for the majority of last season.

Isco might not be 'world class' but he is VERY VERY GOOD, that 2nd level below world class if you define world class as Suarez, Neymar, Messi, Hazard, CR7...etc but then 95% of other players in the world are not world class.

Bar dribbling, Mata has everything over Isco. Finishing, assists, set-pieces everything. Isco plays for Real at their peak and Mata for United at their worst period in decades (with an idiot at the helm). I'm not going too into it because it's not either of their threads, but it seems some people have amnesia and have forgotten the 12/13 season when he dragged our entire team over the line and into the CL spots by scoring 20 goals. Here's a reminder of the goal that did it btw:

So yes, I believe Mata is much better than Isco. If I was to go further, I would say it was a mistake to sell him which resulted in even more mistakes in the effort to get the vast amount of goals and assists back that he gave us, i.e. gambling that Oscar would develop further, buying Salah, buying Cudrado etc. But I will leave it there...

[Chelsea? 892]

Football Manager has made people think negotiations are this simple. What about what the player wants? What the agent wants? What the sponsors want? Not as simple as ponying up and expecting all the other factors to vanish.

can we go 1 day without having to hear a video reference. negotiations are detailed but trust me, if Chelsea wanted a player and he was priced at a price we can offer, we offer that price and give the player a contract he agrees with. Negotiations aren't that complicated. If he doesn't wanna be here, we look else where. the details are for the lawyers and accountants, BUT that stuff won't stop a deal from happening

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

can we go 1 day without having to hear a video reference. negotiations are detailed but trust me, if Chelsea wanted a player and he was priced at a price we can offer, we offer that price and give the player a contract he agrees with. Negotiations aren't that complicated. he he doesn't wanna be here, we look else where. the details are for the lawyers and accountants that stuff won't stop a deal from happening

Agreed people think every football deal is extremely complicated rocket science stuff(most of it involves paper work...etc so I understand) but the simple truth is it is not if we want it to. For example Grizemann 40m release clause well documented, if we go and pay it tomorrow morning and call his agent, offering him £100k a week...

BOOM we can have a new signing within the end of this week. Sometime it is a lot more complicated if there is 3rd party involvement and such but nowadays if we really want we can wrap up 90% of the deals big or small fairly quickly.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Players are unattainable because the transfer fees would be outrageous and who knows if the player wants to go or if the club is willing to release them.

The problem is that RW is more tenuous than being the drummer for Spinal Tap.

There's not much available in terms of right wingers who fit Mou's style.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Are Diario sport reliable?

They say Mou has spoken to Pedro, but we haven't made contact with Barca. Isn't that tapping up? Seems unlikely.

He can spoke to Pedro and not to Barca...

[Chelsea4 1,521]

Isco is not world class. We also had a much better player than Isco and Mourinho sold him to United in favour of Oscar. Genius move.

LOL Isco is Messi for Mata

[Polo7 3,496]

We won the league since and people are still moaning about a player we sold a year and a half ago. Lol. Mata isn't some world class player.

[Diego 433]

Wonder who will eliminitate us this year in UEFA.

Sigh, it must be fun being a bellend and a troll

[Zakadinho 84]

[Special Juan 28,141]

Sigh, it must be fun being a bellend and a troll

Please stop it with the personal insults now please.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

Wouldnt surprise me if Pedro is our marquee signing this summer. Falcao, Begovic, Pedro and someone like Rudiger, John Stones etc. Not sure about a CM

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Why do people always respond with phrases like " like who" " he's not available" in virtually every transfer thread. Every single player bar messi and Ronaldo are available for a price. The question is whether A)we have the funds and B ) if we are willing to spend the amount it would require to buy world class players. Players like Isco,Pogba, Reus, Varane et al are far from unattainable.

Really? How much is JT available for? Thibaut? Hazard? Costa?

If a player doesn't want to leave, or if he has offers from other clubs he prefers then "he is not available".