We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 You have to be stupid to compare his goal stats to other wingers without taking into account the fact hes spent alot of his career in defensive positions ala BaleHe also played striker quite a bit though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I trust Jose about this signing, he could sign Joey Barton if necessary as long as we could win some trophies at the end of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I've been checking around a few oppositions forums and they all seem more worried about us signing him than our own fans are excited at the prospect. The same happened when we signed Cesc. Other PL fans promoted us to #1 favourite for the title if we sign him, but so many of our fans were complaining and wishing for us to sign someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think he'll benefit from not being the main outlet in attack. The ball is always on the left wing when Chelsea play, so when it's finally switched to the right side, there's usually acres of space to operate. And with his style of play, he'll be direct and dribble into the box to get a pen or take a shot.This is what I had hoped for with Willian, but he's clearly not a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 We need a centre back and a super star RW who can score goals. Since we're cooperating strictly with FFP, it seems a waste to spend almost £30m to only marginally improve the squad.Superstar RW's are few and far between. Especially right now. We could get Reus, not sure why Jose wouldn't want him? He puts in a defensive shift as well as being just as dangerous as Hazard attacking and he is a set piece specialist, something we don't have. If we don't get Reus or Varane in the summer, cause I don't think they're going anywhere in January, it will be a huge disappointment. Keep in mind that the standard of opposition Willian is up against is much more difficult than what Cuadrado faces. These stat charts are pretty meaningless.Lol then how do you compare players? If you have only seen so much of them you have to go off stats. Cuardado is absolutely better than Willian, he was as important as James in Brazil and was wanted by Barca and United. He's very good and if he moves to a better league he will step it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 He also played striker quite a bit thoughHow is playing out of position a good thing? Look at the amount of excuses being made for Di Maria for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm not sure how I feel about Cuadrado's potential acquisition yet. He's a proper RW with pace and dribbling/crossing/shooting ability, but his raw technique levels (ball control/passing) appear to be below Willian's, he's less physically strong than Willian is, and his workrate can hardly be superior to Willian's either. From what I have seen of his style of play (not much admittedly), he looks like the sort of player who will struggle with the physicality of the PL; the combination of excellent dribbling and decent-but-not-outstanding technique with a lack of upper body strength suggests to me a player who (similar to Schurrle) is going to lose possession A LOT during domestic games. And yet he IS a genuine RW (unlike Willian, Schurrle, Reus, Turan etc.), and that could possibly make enough of a difference for us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I really haven't seen enough of him to offer a sound opinion but there were times when I tuned in to a Fiorentina match to watch Jovetic and I always ended up paying more attention to Cuadrado. I have reservations about spending that amount of money on a player who seems to be a marginal improvement on our options for right wing but the thing is, if City are able to retain the premiership, it'll be the 6th season we haven't won the league and the gap between ourselves and them, in terms of commercial revenue, brand appeal etc will widen further. So the people who are saying that we should wait until the summer for someone like Reus need to consider what the possibility of City retaining the title and winning it for the 3rd time in 4 years will mean for us in terms of being able to compete for the best players and also retaining our best players, i.e Hazard. I think the board should do all they can to put the team in the best possible position to win the league and having Cuadrado in place of Salah will strengthen the squad considerably. 26M seems like a lot to spend on him but the implications of not winning the league, I feel, would be more costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Loving the fact Cuadrado has a great strike on him. Generates so much power on his longshots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm I the onlyone that actually believe Willian is better than him or at worst, they are on the same level? from a technical and tactical standpoint. Even stats wise, last season was the only abnormally.My policy is very simple, if it doesn't improve us, don't buy unless it's for squad purposes and you don't spend £25 odd million on a squad player. Either get a player that's clearly superior to what we already have or don't bother.But he does improve us. He is better than schurrle and salah so now we have a dynamic high level squad player who can come in and have an impact on any game. Also at the level we are at now we do need to add high level squad players. Look at the likes for Madrid and Bayern, 25m for bench players is the norm now. We want to compete on that level right? If we don't get him and grab Reus, willian becomes our 30m squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dy-lan 142 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 For everyone saying why aren't we going after Reus, here's What I'd bet decent money on has happened.1- Chelsea have contacted Bvb and Marcos camp and have been informed that he is absolutely not available right now because of their league and CL situation. And come summer will be an all out battle for his signature. 2-Similar to the situation above, Chelsea have made contact, but have been informed the player already has a deal set up with another club for summer.Basically what I'm saying is, if Reus was even a POSSIBILITY right now you can bet Chelsea would at least have a dog in the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No, he has favourites.This quote from Ba applies to more people than just Mourinho:Sometimes when you are at a club with a lot of big stars, the name counts for more than the statistics. such utter BS from someone blinded by his love for a below-par player... yeah jose does has favorites, you know who? people who actually perform when given the chance! some fans lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 such utter BS from someone blinded by his love for a below-par player... yeah jose does has favorites, you know who? people who actually perform when given the chance! some fans lol...If you can't handle the truth, don't read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Well everything will be clear when he is starting to play for us (he has to be signed first though, lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Youre racist if you compare Cuadrado to Willian. They couldn't be anymore different. Sick of seeing that comparison when they couldn't be anymore different. It's so incredibly lazy.Willian just holds unto possession and recycles the ball. Cuadrado is by far the more direct player. He's completely different in the way he approaches the opponent. He will replace schurlle as our direct player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Back in the start of the season, when opponents didnt know how to play us due to new signings, we banged goals for fun. They tried to stop Hazard, but we had Costa and he scored shitload of goals. Eventualy opponents started close mark him too and our performance drained a bit. With Cuadrado, opponents will probably stretch their defence even further and it will be very beneficial for us. Its clear that Willian almost never runs at defenders, crosses etc and it makes him easier to stop. With Cuadrado, story will be different.I was doubtful about Salah and even Willian when we signed them, because I thought they aint proven enough. Im doubtful about Cuadrado too, maybe he aint perfect fit, but he is certainly quality player.35m is steep, but lets face it; if Schurrle/Salah leaves, we NEED another player and Cuadrado is best pick in january.I admit, I dont watch every Fiorentina game, I only watched them about three times this season, he had his ups and downs in those games, but what I like is that Cuadrado takes a fucking shot and isnt afraid to do it again and again until he scores. Im fucking tired of our attackers passing passing passing and no one takes the shot. And the good part here is that Cuadrado is actualy good shot taker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Willian just holds unto possession and recycles the ball.Cuadrado is by far the more direct player. He's completely different in the way he approaches the opponent. He will replace schurlle as our direct player.Yeah, and a direct player who's far better defensively than Schurrle (and who can play as a midfielder or even as a RB if needed). I haven't watched Serie A much in the last couple of seasons, but other Milan fans I know who still watch Serie A regularly rate him highly. Some rate him higher than Sanchez(and they obviously have seen Sanchez a lot since he also used to play in Serie A). They say this season Cuadrado just seems a bit demotivated after not having been sold in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Plot twist: Mourinho will play Cuadrado on RB with Ivanovic being our new world class right winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 DEAL AGREED FOR 23M...According to the Expresshttp://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/553610/Chelsea-Juan-Cuadrado-Man-Utd-Fiorentina-Andre-Schurrle-Mohamed-Salah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 DEAL AGREED FOR 23M...According to the Expresshttp://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/553610/Chelsea-Juan-Cuadrado-Man-Utd-Fiorentina-Andre-Schurrle-Mohamed-SalahGet in there, if it's right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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