diskoviolente 425 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Easy mate, he is an outstanding goalkeeper. Only because he hasn´t had a great deal of luck so far he is not falling out of the world class league for me. Even Cassillas makes mistakes. Don´t be fooled by Courtois form, it is still a way for him to replace Cech.I wouldn´t jump the gun like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 NO excuses!Childish mistakes like this proves that he is not the best goalkeeper in the world.Tittle still goes to Casillas and Buffon for me.He is a top goalkeeper that had a great season but that's that.I'd like to see you stand still with a huge defender rushing towards when you've had your skull broken before.And by the way, I'm a Juve fan and take it from me, as much as I love Buffon, he did absolutely nothing specially for the last couple of seasons. Casillas is also very prone to mistakes which often prove costly. He did not, by far, have his best season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 NO excuses!Childish mistakes like this proves that he is not the best goalkeeper in the world.Tittle still goes to Casillas and Buffon for me.He is a top goalkeeper that had a great season but that's that.He's had more than one great season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'd like to see you stand still with a huge defender rushing towards when you've had your skull broken before.And by the way, I'm a Juve fan and take it from me, as much as I love Buffon, he did absolutely nothing specially for the last couple of seasons. Casillas is also very prone to mistakes which often prove costly. He did not, by far, have his best season.I put myself in the position of the neutral which you are trying to do saying you are a Juventus fan, and thinking what would they say when you are debating if Cech is the best keeper in the world?And then he does that, not to mention letting 4 goals in his first game......oh and not forget the nice tournament he also had 4 years ago in the Euro 2008.I think Casillas, and Buffon would be winning the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If any of you remember the game International Super Start Soccer Delux on the SNES... and you are watching the Gre V CZE game then you will understand when i say this about Cech.KEEEPPPPERRR THUMBLLEEEEE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I put myself in the position of the neutral which you are trying to do saying you are a Juventus fan, and thinking what would they say when you are debating if Cech is the best keeper in the world?And then he does that, not to mention letting 4 goals in his first game......oh and not forget the nice tournament he also had 4 years ago in the Euro 2008.I think Casillas, and Buffon would be winning the race.Particular cases don't dictate the general rule:Buffon tried to dribble past the striker in the 85th min two games from the end of the season, he lost the ball conceded a goal and almost cost Juve the title.Casillas got him self unnecessarily sent off in the first 10 mins of the match (I think it was vs Levante). Real lost that game and their 5 point lead at the top was reduced which let Barca back in the title race.Every keeper makes silly mistakes, nothing can take away Petr's unbelievable performances this season or the ones he has had since he joined us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Particular cases don't dictate the general rule:Buffon tried to dribble past the striker in the 85th min two games from the end of the season, he lost the ball conceded a goal and almost cost Juve the title.Casillas got him self unnecessarily sent off in the first 10 mins of the match (I think it was vs Levante). Real lost that game and their 5 point lead at the top was reduced which let Barca back in the title race.Every keeper makes silly mistakes, nothing can take away Petr's unbelievable performances this season or the ones he has had since he joined us.So you are saying is still debatable?Cause for me Cech is a top keeper. One of the top but he is not the best in the world, and errors like this proves it.And the Casillas example does not seems like the best, compare to the bloopers that Cech give us, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 From a neutral perspective Cech is regarded as one of the best in the world. Top 3 definitely. You can't name many better than Cech. Justin_3d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 From a neutral perspective Cech is regarded as one of the best in the world. Top 3 definitely. You can't name many better than Cech.I think that's about right. Top 3 he is, but best in the world?Not for me.I take Casillas.Not to mention that when we play a high line, Cech is disaster as we learn from the time with AVB.Casillas has play under a lot of formation, including a tika taka high line with Spain and has been amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yeah, I'd probably only have Casillas over Cech, Iker is probably the best goalkeeper of his generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted June 12, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted June 12, 2012 A best GK discussion is useless due to the different requirements of different leagues. Van der Sar didn't do well in Italy but was incredible in England. Casillas is not a GK suited for the PL due to his weakness in the air.Cech made a silly mistake. It happened, move on. All GKs make mistakes, all of them. English Freak, xPetrCechx, Hysteria and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'd like to see you stand still with a huge defender rushing towards when you've had your skull broken before.And by the way, I'm a Juve fan and take it from me, as much as I love Buffon, he did absolutely nothing specially for the last couple of seasons. Casillas is also very prone to mistakes which often prove costly. He did not, by far, have his best season.Really???Buffon has been injured the last few years, but this season he was class.Didn't think people here would rate Casillas higher then Buffon, i regard Buffon a lot higher. For me he is the greatest GK of his generation and would defiantly go down as one of the best ever.i have mentioned many times, Cech biggest flaw is his distribution skills. others top him in that category.Right now i regard Neuer and Buffon as the best keepers in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Fair enough. Buffon is the exception. He's good at everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 So you are saying is still debatable?Cause for me Cech is a top keeper. One of the top but he is not the best in the world, and errors like this proves it.And the Casillas example does not seems like the best, compare to the bloopers that Cech give us, but oh well.You obviously like Casillas more and that is perhaps affecting your judgement. My point was keepers are not judged by their odd mistakes, because they all have those, but by what they are able to do well.Petr is the best in the world at positioning himself. He's the type of keeper that makes you feel it's all easy. In fact, some of Petr's most brilliant saves often go unnoticed because he makes them look like regular saves. His weakness is he is no longer as commanding in the air after his head injury and he sometimes lacks courage in his one-on-one challenges.Casillas is more "dramatic" in his keeping. He likes to make his saves look like they are in slow-motion while he jumps acrobatically in the air. His reflexes are, imo, second to none in the world, but his positioning is not comparable to Petr. His worst weakness, however, is that his FK keeping is nowhere near world-class. He often messes up the wall and is half of the times positioned poorly for a FK.As for Buffon, he was the perfect keeper in 2006. His skills have suffering with all the injuries and of course with him getting older. He had a bad season last year after he suffered a lengthy injury, he was decent this season but was never really tested much and was never forced to make many world-class performances due to the solidity of the Juve defense.Overall, I'd say that there is no doubt that Petr had the best season out of all of them which makes him the best keeper in the world currently. But the main point is: keeping is not just about making the spectacular save, but more importantly about taking the right steps and closing the angle so that you are not forced to make the spectacular difficult save but an ordinary easy one.That's what I think at least. Justin_3d and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0rb1D4S 84 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Petr Čech is curious goalkeeper.. In Chelsea he's world class, but he made some silly mistakes at our national team, just like today.. But he had really bad defenders in our team.. He's world class keeper and belong to TOP 5 in the world.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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