The "completed" Chelsea side and attractive football.

[Tomo 21,751]

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[Tomo 21,751]

The thing is defending must come first when building a team, yes a fair part of last season wasn't great on the eye but with it we built a solid foundation to kick on from now.

The perception of good football is teams like Brendans liverpool, but really is good football watching defenders make mistake after mistake? I squirmed seeing there goals conceded last year, it's bad enough seeing basic defensive cock ups in league 2, never mind a title chasing team of one of the top leagues in Europe, would players like Mingolet, Agger and Johnson with a league medal be 'good for football' given they were at fault for so many goals? I think it would have been a travesty.

The same way I hate big scoring games littered with defensive error's, if the attack outsmart the defence fair enough but games like United 8 2 Arsenal was cringeworthy, school boy defending from both sides and the game could have been 10 6. I have been involved in free for all 6 all draws and tight tactical 1 0s were we had to be smart to win, and I got much more enjoyment in the latter games, that's were im in my element playing football, the whole idea of the game is how hard it is to score, hench the mad celebrations when we do, there's a reason celebrations in Rugby are more withdrawn unless its a winner.

There has to be some sort of balance it pissed me off last season when people said Liverpool were doing things the right way, they were defending like school boys but got away with it due to a world class and very good striker both in the form of their lives, defending is part of football to

What I want to see from Jose is to keep the solid defensive base because as he shown in his first coming, do that and the attack and good football looks after itself, imagine the pressure off attacking shoulders if they know one goal will do eight times out of ten?

We will benefit from building a solid base next season, while Liverpool will still have a rubbish error prone defence with the reason they got away with it as much as they did at Barcelona.

oh well, as long as Coutinho and Sterling play a neat one two in the 50th minute, hey.........................................................

[The Rising Sun 711]

No excuses this season.

The puzzle is completed.

Attractive football will happen with Fabregas Hazard costa luis oscar willian schurrle and the rest.

Drogba is back as well for those moments where shit isnt working.

We shouldnt be winning ugly by choice, that is the only thing that bothers me. There is a fine line between the stupidity of going gung ho and attacking at Mancity, and then scoring a goal vs bottom 10 side, and then playing slower.

What i expect is to score a goal at city and be slightly cautious from then on, but score a goal at a bottom table team , and then score 4 more. 4 more.

[ChelseaFC12 134]

We're playing so glum football against a 13th placed german team. We can only dream of playing good attractive football under Jose. It will never happen.

[zolayes 14,489]

We're playing so glum football against a 13th placed german team. We can only dream of playing good attractive football under Jose. It will never happen.

I HOPE you are wrong But I FEAR you are right

[Shakez 755]

We're playing so glum football against a 13th placed german team. We can only dream of playing good attractive football under Jose. It will never happen.

Im fearing that also. Atleast we can't stick it on the players this year...

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

So what we lost? Its pre-season and Mourinho's side is always better in the second season. Always is.

He gave our team a balanced system last season, with clear instructions for the wide players to help the fullback and also off the ball work in a high block as well as a low block unlike what we seen from anyone before Rafa who vaguely set us up with 2 lines of 4, Mata free as well as Torres/Ba up top as a target man.

We conceded the least amount of goals in the PL. Sure if you want to outscore teams you can do that like Liverpool but personally I'd prefer us to keep clean sheets as well and you can't outscore teams forever. Look at Liverpool's balance last season, you could score goals against them for fun because they committed both fullbacks high up the park as well as having two central midfield players who could go forward as well as either two wingers and a CF or two CFs and a 10. Also Jose knew we were missing players last year, like Costa and Fabregas but also he was trying to improve the defensive side of our team and find his best team.

Anyway I think we will be a bit more useful with possession and in transitions with Costa and Fabregas in our team but that doesn't mean we are gonna see us playing 4-3-3 like Barcelona or Spain or Bayern or whoever else, with a very high line, both full backs very high and very little protection in midfield if we lose the ball. Not a chance but thats not a bad thing, Chelsea will always be very hard to beat under Jose and we all know that, he is in my eyes the best coach in Europe and tactically he usually gets it spot on. Even when we are chasing games he goes either 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 but its always got its defensive instructions as well as offensive ones (ok maybe not the 3-5-2 because that was usually Willian and Hazard as wingbacks but still).

Attractive football is really a term that annoys me sometimes, football is full of variety, there is not one way to play football and there never will be. People think if you play very very openly and have lots of passes and ball possession you are playing attractive but I watched a lot of Jose's Madrid team the season they broke the record for goals and Klopp's Dortmund side and the way they played intrigued me, maybe you won't consider that 'attractive' football but it was efficient and effective football. Also Jose's first spell here we were something different, 3 man midfield, very direct, very hard to beat, very physical and nobody could better us.

I just want us to go back to being a ruthless team that is very quick out of the blocks and will beat whoever the fuck is put out in front of us. We used to be like that, we've lost that 'ruthlessness' over the years that teams like Manchester United and now even Manchester City have got.

[ChelseaFC12 134]

So what we lost? Its pre-season and Mourinho's side is always better in the second season. Always is.

He gave our team a balanced system last season, with clear instructions for the wide players to help the fullback and also off the ball work in a high block as well as a low block unlike what we seen from anyone before Rafa who vaguely set us up with 2 lines of 4, Mata free as well as Torres/Ba up top as a target man.

We conceded the least amount of goals in the PL. Sure if you want to outscore teams you can do that like Liverpool but personally I'd prefer us to keep clean sheets as well and you can't outscore teams forever. Look at Liverpool's balance last season, you could score goals against them for fun because they committed both fullbacks high up the park as well as having two central midfield players who could go forward as well as either two wingers and a CF or two CFs and a 10. Also Jose knew we were missing players last year, like Costa and Fabregas but also he was trying to improve the defensive side of our team and find his best team.

Anyway I think we will be a bit more useful with possession and in transitions with Costa and Fabregas in our team but that doesn't mean we are gonna see us playing 4-3-3 like Barcelona or Spain or Bayern or whoever else, with a very high line, both full backs very high and very little protection in midfield if we lose the ball. Not a chance but thats not a bad thing, Chelsea will always be very hard to beat under Jose and we all know that, he is in my eyes the best coach in Europe and tactically he usually gets it spot on. Even when we are chasing games he goes either 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 but its always got its defensive instructions as well as offensive ones (ok maybe not the 3-5-2 because that was usually Willian and Hazard as wingbacks but still).

Attractive football is really a term that annoys me sometimes, football is full of variety, there is not one way to play football and there never will be. People think if you play very very openly and have lots of passes and ball possession you are playing attractive but I watched a lot of Jose's Madrid team the season they broke the record for goals and Klopp's Dortmund side and the way they played intrigued me, maybe you won't consider that 'attractive' football but it was efficient and effective football. Also Jose's first spell here we were something different, 3 man midfield, very direct, very hard to beat, very physical and nobody could better us.

I just want us to go back to being a ruthless team that is very quick out of the blocks and will beat whoever the fuck is put out in front of us. We used to be like that, we've lost that 'ruthlessness' over the years that teams like Manchester United and now even Manchester City have got.

Nah it's not about we've lost or we've won.

I'm talking about playing attractive football. We were playing so glum football against a team who have finished a merely 13th in the german league.

I could've accepted it if we were playing Dortmound, Bayer Leverkusen but against Bremen it was not acceptable..

If we play this way... yes we can win against team that attack us.. but we will struggle to beat those teams that will defend deep like what happened last season especially at Stamford Bridge...

And anyhow if team scores first against us we're even in more danger because their players won't even cross their half.

While on other hand teams like City, Liverpool just killed those oppositions in their home like 5-0 4-0 etc and yet we settled to a 0-0 at bridge. That's what the problem of negative football.

And yeah one more thing during Jose's first spell low table teams didn't used to park the bus like they do now. Now these teams just go and play with one objective just defend deep and don't concede and be happy with one point..

P.SThis is just my thoughts.. I have no hate towards Jose or anything. But we've got the squad to play some good attacking football(Well atleast against small teams). So why don't we do that? Our team can also kill these small teams just like City and Liverpool but they're not getting utilised.

Jose tactic of defend deep and hit on counters is very good I like it but it won't work against small teams..

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

So...attractive enough for you guys so far?

[zolayes 14,489]

So...attractive enough for you guys so far?

YES

[Myself 793]

Yeah.

[Bluelsthecolour 61]

Oh 100%. Schurrles goal against burnley - that was a really nice goal. Costas second against swansea to.

[The Skipper 20,609]

So...attractive enough for you guys so far?

Apart from the City game we've been very entertaining yeah.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

This squad is far from 'completed'. Whether from the existing set of development/loan players or through the transfer market, we need further serious strengthening at CB, CM, AM & striker.

- Up top we need a high quality 'technical' striker for balance. That player would replace Didier in next year's squad.

- At AM the "he's tired" excuse ain't gonna keep working for Oscar. He's great at part of the job but we are playing at the very highest level of football so we need a '10' who is great at the whole job.

- Also at AM we need someone who demands selection on the right in the same way that Hazard demands to be picked on the left. The reason we rotate people on that flank is that none of our current options is quite up to it.

- At CM we need a player who can match Rami's lungs and attitude but who is better in possession.

- At CB we need pace, power and poise.

[Tomo 21,751]

The thing is like greavsie said, this squad is not close to complete in fact this is just the start.

In Diego, Cesc, Matic and Eden we have key players for atleast the next 6 years, longer in Edens case, and there is still room for further improvement in the team and squad.

If we are prudent enough in evolving the team we will dominate for the next decade under Jose, City will always be around to keep us on our toes and will still win a couple, but Jose will always give us the edge on Pellegrini, lets say Jose is the new Fergie and Pellegrini is the new Wenger in that regard.

We should have dominated the recent decade but started screwing up in market, then Mou left and we appointed shit managers, learn from those mistakes and I can honestly see 6/7 more titles to our name by this time in 2024.