LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Luis deserves to go somewhere where he's going to play consistently. You have to respect him for not ever sulking or showing frustration at lack of game time, he must see that Dave is putting in some great shifts at LB. While the argument of whether he should have ever been signed might remain, the fact is he will leave here with a English domestic double to his name. mediator and RoyalBlues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 World class player. Unfortunately, the love story between Brane and Mou stopped him from stepping in the 1st team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Most underrated player in our team. Given regular play time, he would make us alot better IMO. But Mou thinks differently.If we sell him to Atletico, we better get Griezmann/Godin/Koke as part of deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It's not that he 'deserves' to be sold, as if being a fringe player at Chelsea is only slightly better than starving to death in Somalia; I mean everyone on here has almost certainly considerably worse fates to their lives than Luis if he sits another year on the bench.He should be sold because his market value is only going to drop exponentially if he spends another year on the sidelines, especially given his age. We should sell him because we'd lose a lot of money if we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If he isn't going to be a starter, it would be wise to use him as a makeweight for Griezmann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 What a run!!Nice little mean streak he has in him too. Nice to see he has it in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 we all know he is good in attack, its the defensive side of his game that matters.its all about balance. we want eden to have a free role (or as free a role as anyone can have under jose). so we need someone who is solid defensively, and azpi fits the bill perfectly. i dont want us becoming arsenal where both the full backs are in the opposition box while the opposition counters and scores. azpi gives us balance, luis simply does not.people saying that its cos of jose's lovefest with iva is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Good assisthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il7-8DstbV4 Madmax and DYC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Pls don't sell him Chels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Played well last night. Nice assist as well. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 we all know he is good in attack, its the defensive side of his game that matters.its all about balance. we want eden to have a free role (or as free a role as anyone can have under jose). so we need someone who is solid defensively, and azpi fits the bill perfectly. i dont want us becoming arsenal where both the full backs are in the opposition box while the opposition counters and scores. azpi gives us balance, luis simply does not.people saying that its cos of jose's lovefest with iva is ridiculous.Stop it lad. He's miles better than both Azpilicueta and Ivanovic and it isn't be a debate. Only a handful of fullbacks can pull off that assist yesterday. Juventus, Atletico, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern the elite teams all play with offensive fullbacks stop acting like it's a foreign concept in football that's only limited to Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Stop it lad. He's miles better than both Azpilicueta and Ivanovic and it isn't be a debate. Only a handful of fullbacks can pull off that assist yesterday. Juventus, Atletico, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern the elite teams all play with offensive fullbacks stop acting like it's a foreign concept in football that's only limited to Arsenal.Offensively. They're both better defensively IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Stop it lad. He's miles better than both Azpilicueta and Ivanovic and it isn't be a debate. Only a handful of fullbacks can pull off that assist yesterday. Juventus, Atletico, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern the elite teams all play with offensive fullbacks stop acting like it's a foreign concept in football that's only limited to Arsenal.oh.. thats true.. probably thats the reason that JOSE FUCKING MOURINHO has him benched behind both ivanovic and azpilicueta. like always, a LOL-MAX opinion from gilvorak.infact, i think he so many miles ahead that jose thought it unfair on the other wingers to play this god of a fullback. i mean he is so far ahead that we are thinking of selling him and replacing him with ake/toby. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sky Sports "sources" saying that we, quite rightly, won't sell Luis for anything less than the £15.8 million we invested in his transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted June 12, 2015 Filipe is not poor defender. Certainly no worse than Ivanovic. But his style of defending is based on pressing and intensity. I would compare this to Matic who is brilliant in intercepting the ball but when he defends deep in standing situation he's rather average. Filipe is average 1on1 defender, yes, but I don't think that Marcelo, Jordi Alba or David Alaba are better. I don't even think that Marcelo and Alba would play here either even though they're clearly top full-backs. Only Alaba but that's due to his physique, he is strong player.We have disorganized pressing and have too many passengers. Fabregas, Ivanovic, Cahill and JT are so poor in putting pressing, it's no surprise. Filipe in place of Azpilcueta doesn't make things better. Azpilicueta is a monster in applying pressure and in 1on1 situation, clearly the best in the world combining both things.But without him we're loosing the best presser so it doesn't make sense. The only way to utilize Filipe properly is to drop at least two of this band : Fabregas, Ivanovic, Cahill, JT.I don't understand saying that Filipe can't play because Hazard has free role. What is that, we allow Hazard to have free role ? So he didn't make 2 mistakes in Atletico game when he switched off ? He has free role apparently ...But second thing, Ronaldo is way lazier worker than Hazard and Marcelo is more offensive than Filipe, yet Mourinho allowed the pair to play on the left side for 3 years no matter what. So does problem really lay in Hazard ? I think we should look elsewhere. JT, Cahill, Ivanovic, Fabregas ...Just 2 days ago Mourinho said in BT event that one of the great quality of the manager is that he masks team flaws. So there you go, just what Mourinho does now when he has JT and Cahill as the pair of CBs.Therefore I think that Filipe should be used as a bargaining cheap, as much as I like him. We should land either of Koke or Griezmann thanks to him. Blue-in-me-Veins, Barbara, Peace. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Offensively. They're both better defensively IMO.Highly doubt that. Azpi is the better defender when it comes to playing deep and the reactive Mou plays, but when it comes to playing aggressive football and high pressure Luis every day of the week. Luis is better then Ivanovic on every aspect except set pieces. The Chels, Gilvorak and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Highly doubt that. Azpi is the better defender when it comes to playing deep and the reactive Mou plays, but when it comes to playing aggressive football and high pressure Luis every day of the week. Luis is better then Ivanovic on every aspect except set pieces.When you play on the counter, they are better options. Iva is a CB that has been played out of position for years. Remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Dave will never see the la roja jersey.....Gaya is the future lb of Spain. Could be argued he is better than alba already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted June 12, 2015 When you play on the counter, they are better options. Iva is a CB that has been played out of position for years. Remember that.Not really, there are two ways to play on the counter an aggresive way and passive way. Alti and Dortmund plays aggressively on the counter, allow you to get to a certain point and they aggressively pressure you to create counter. A passive way would be how we sometime play in big games wait for the attackers to make a mistake and counter.Ivanovic playing out of position does not make him a better option then Luis, and secondly he has played almost exclusively as a RB since arriving here. Who is to say to he is playing out of position? The Chels, Peace., Madmax and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not really, there are two ways to play on the counter an aggresive way and passive way. Alti and Dortmund plays aggressively on the counter, allow you to get to a certain point and they aggressively pressure you to create counter. A passive way would be how we sometime play in big games wait for the attackers to make a mistake and counter.Ivanovic playing out of position does not make him a better option then Luis, and secondly he has played almost exclusively as a RB since arriving here. Who is to say to he is playing out of position?Himself - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1336397/Branislav-Ivanovic-doesnt-want-Chelsea-wide-boy.html !Hazard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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