Reddish-Blue 2,515 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 How can you have starting lineups for an entire season? Lineups are for matches, squads are for seasons. Obviously you'd have key players in those squads who will be relied on more but lineups depend on form, fitness and obviously the opponent.The starting lineups aren't for the entire season....it's more along the lines of what everyone feels will be the 'preferred XI/ strongest XI' next season (without accounting for injuries, form, opponent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 How can you have starting lineups for an entire season? Lineups are for matches, squads are for seasons. Obviously you'd have key players in those squads who will be relied on more but lineups depend on form, fitness and obviously the opponent.Oh look. Dr Serious has just got into the house. Run everybody. Run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Vs the small teams CourtoisAzpilicueta - Cahill - Zouma - LuisMaticFabregas - OscarWillian - Costa - Hazard Vs the top teamsCourtoisAzpilicueta - Cahill - Terry - LuisRamires - MaticWillian - Fabregas/Oscar - HazardCosta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Vs the small teams CourtoisAzpilicueta - Cahill - Zouma - LuisMaticFabregas - OscarWillian - Costa - Hazard Vs the top teamsCourtoisAzpilicueta - Cahill - Terry - LuisRamires - MaticWillian - Fabregas/Oscar - HazardCostaDon't think there's any point in trying to suggest a team vs the smaller teams and one vs the big teams TBH. I mean, it's not like Mourinho specifically played the 4-2-3-1 against the smaller teams last season and then switched to 4-3-3 when playing the top teams. He'll assess the circumstances and decide which is best to use. Against the top 7 last season, only thrice he started with the 4-3-3 in 12 matches - against Arsenal(A), Tottenham(H) and Liverpool(A). And let's not even forget he set us up in the 4-3-3 away against West Ham, one of the lesser teams, and won with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Don't think there's any point in trying to suggest a team vs the smaller teams and one vs the big teams TBH. I mean, it's not like Mourinho specifically played the 4-2-3-1 against the smaller teams last season and then switched to 4-3-3 when playing the top teams. He'll assess the circumstances and decide which is best to use. Against the top 7 last season, only thrice he started with the 4-3-3 in 12 matches - against Arsenal(A), Tottenham(H) and Liverpool(A). And let's not even forget he set us up in the 4-3-3 away against West Ham, one of the lesser teams, and won with ease.And in none of those matches did Oscar play in the 2nd band... I don't know why people think that now because we have Cesc it means Oscar falls back into the CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Considering we also buy Costa and Luis, the formations above pretty much say how we should play next year.But there are few things known to Mou only:1.) Will he drop Ivanovic who is still very good in defence?=I guess he will because both Azpi (Mou praised him) and Luis are very good in defending, but also much much better in attack than Iva. There is always option to close down with playing Iva in certain games.2.) Will Ramires stay in starting eleven (if he stays in club)?= I think not because his form is very poor. Top Ramires would definately get spot ahead of Oscar (because Mou favours such type of player), playing next to Cesc and Matic. But current Ramires is realy bad and Oscar (should he regain form) will be ahead no doubt.3.) Who will play on wings?= Definite starters should be Hazard and Schurrle (if he has good WC). But since both play on same side best, unless Hazard gets moved into middle, Hazard and Willian will continue playing on wings, while Schurrle will stay on bench or right side.4.) Endless discussion Cech or Courtois...Thats pretty much it, it will depend heavily on who we sell and buy.There are few players (who could play in first 11) that might leave the club:-Oscar-Cech-RamiresAnd there are few players Mou could still be interested (if we sell Oscar, Ramires):-Pogba/Vidal/Witsel/other CM/Dm-Varane/Benatia/Mangala/other CB-Di Maria/Sanchez/Griezmann/....While Cesc-Matic-Oscar gives new dimension in attack, it leaves Oscar with even less freedom because Cesc isnt as hard worker as Ramires was, while Matic would become only real DM there and would have more restricted role. Thats why there is posibility that Mou might want to sell Oscar and Ramires to get Pogba or someone, but thats just speculation. I like Oscar and I hope things work out well, without selling him.As always WC will give few new football stars (like Ozil, Muller, Khedira,...last WC) and Mou might try to get one or two like he did back in Real with Ozil and Khedira.I genuinely hope we dont sell Lukaku aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Don't think there's any point in trying to suggest a team vs the smaller teams and one vs the big teams TBH. I mean, it's not like Mourinho specifically played the 4-2-3-1 against the smaller teams last season and then switched to 4-3-3 when playing the top teams. He'll assess the circumstances and decide which is best to use. Against the top 7 last season, only thrice he started with the 4-3-3 in 12 matches - against Arsenal(A), Tottenham(H) and Liverpool(A). And let's not even forget he set us up in the 4-3-3 away against West Ham, one of the lesser teams, and won with ease.The point i was making is we only need 1 DM (Matic) v the smaller teams and Ramires - Matic pivot against the top teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The point i was making is we only need 1 DM (Matic) v the smaller teams and Ramires - Matic pivot against the top teams.But the two teams you stated were lined up in different formations and even then, not sure why people always think just because we play the pivot, it's always 2 DMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empire of emotions 247 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 holy shit our strikers next season. one is a huge cunt, second can't score on an empty net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DROGBAtheGOAT 29 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I've got an interesting thought. Would it be possible for Cesc to occupy the #10 position and have Oscar move to a deeper #8 type role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I've got an interesting thought. Would it be possible for Cesc to occupy the #10 position and have Oscar move to a deeper #8 type role?That's what I've been wondering! I think he's better deeper and is deceivingly strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrcfc 461 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 What about moving Oscar back onto the right wing? He played there when we had Mata and Hazard, and was fantastic there for Brazil (motm). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hmm, let's see what would happen if I could have my way with the team:Cech/SchwarzerAzpilicueta/Ivanovic - Cahill - Terry/Zouma - Shaw/BertrandRamires/Mikel - MaticWillian/Salah - Oscar/Fabregas - Hazard/SchurrleCosta/Torres/BaRamires/Mikel in the pivot? Please god no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 What about moving Oscar back onto the right wing? He played there when we had Mata and Hazard, and was fantastic there for Brazil (motm).Not under Mourinho. Has already said he doesn't want Oscar to be chasing the fullback up and down the flanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Not under Mourinho. Has already said he doesn't want Oscar to be chasing the fullback up and down the flanks.Mourinho big fans of Ramires. Rather than seeing Ramires on RW, I prefer Oscar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Mourinho big fans of Ramires. Rather than seeing Ramires on RW, I prefer Oscar.Unfortunately, Mourinho is the one picking the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Wouldnt mind 3:5:2 in some games------------Courtois--------------------Cahill-Terry-Zouma?---------Azpi-Oscar-Matic-Cesc-Willian------------Costa-Hazard-----------Our defence wasnt too great when we didnt play defensive, besides Terry will get older and third CB could be great (Zouma would gain experience and his potential mistakes would be covered by Terry and Cahill).Azpi and Willian could be perfect wingbacks. Willian specificaly. Both can run for ages, Azpi is natural defender while Willian is more attacking. His crosses would be useful. Besides his ending product isnt that special, he would suit wingback profile. Midfield would be extremely strong, creative and with high pressing, we would boss midfield. With no Ramires, our defence would be more exposed, but with 3 CBs, and more midfielders, defence would still be strong. Finaly, our attack would be Costa, a target man and Hazard who would have more free role, could be second striker, winger, creator behind Costa etc. Would be worth a try in certain games. Chile and Netherlands have proved this formation can be very efective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Wouldnt mind 3:5:2 in some games------------Courtois--------------------Cahill-Terry-Ivanovic---------Azpi-Oscar-Matic-Cesc-Willian------------Costa-Hazard-----------Our defence wasnt too great when we didnt play defensive, besides Terry will get older and third CB could be great (Zouma would gain experience and his potential mistakes would be covered by Terry and Cahill).Azpi and Willian could be perfect wingbacks. Willian specificaly. Both can run for ages, Azpi is natural defender while Willian is more attacking. His crosses would be useful. Besides his ending product isnt that special, he would suit wingback profile.Midfield would be extremely strong, creative and with high pressing, we would boss midfield.With no Ramires, our defence would be more exposed, but with 3 CBs, and more midfielders, defence would still be strong. Finaly, our attack would be Costa, a target man and Hazard who would have more free role, could be second striker, winger, creator behind Costa etc.Would be worth a try in certain games. Chile and Netherlands have proved this formation can be very efective.I'm not a fan of 3-5-2 as a permanent formation but as a possible plan C, sure...Ivanovic would definitely get in ahead of Zouma in that set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm not a fan of 3-5-2 as a permanent formation but as a possible plan C, sure...Ivanovic would definitely get in ahead of Zouma in that set up.I think under Mou Zouma might become some player but if he wont get chance soon, he will never make it here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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