Cesc Fàbregas

[iseah100 5,612]

The way Barca play now, Cesc would have been a perfect fit for them.

Totally agree. Martino was an idiot, this direct style they have Cesc would thrive in, imo.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

cesc did play alongside iniesta (and xavi and messi) but was nowhere near what rakitic has been.

cesc has been good for us but needs to be more consistent.

Wrong. Fabregas barely ever played actual CM for BAR. Usually he was on the RW or as a no 9 because there was no space in the team.

He does need to be more consistent...but soe of the comparisons here are getting ridiculous.

[LAM09 7,043]

Good performance so far from him. Goal and assist inside 30 mins.

[didierforever 7,349]

barca changed there whole formation to give cesc a place in the mid. they even shifted iniesta to the wings (not cesc)

they changed from a well settled 4-3-3 to a 3-4-3 cos whenever cesc got to play in the mid, he was simply not good enough.

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/592999/Live

this was barca's formation when they played us and a lot of other times too. he did play thru the center and only cos he was poor as a CM or no where near barca level.

whats worse is people saying that this barca style would have suited him. no it wont have. rakitic gives barca speed, dynamism and that quick passing. cesc can put a clinical pass but i think he is way behind rakitic in the other aspects.

Wrong. Fabregas barely ever played actual CM for BAR. Usually he was on the RW or as a no 9 because there was no space in the team.

He does need to be more consistent...but soe of the comparisons here are getting ridiculous.

[illmatic 901]

For me:

* Vision

Cesc >>> Rakitic

* General Passing

Cesc >>> Rakitic

* Key Passes

Cesc >>>>>> Rakitic

*Work Rate

Rakitic >>> Cesc

* Physical condition

Rakitic >>> Cesc

* Consistent

Rakitic >>> Cesc

* Goal

Cesc = Rakitic

Set Piece (Corner, Free Kicks)

Cesc >> Rakitic

Conclusion; Cesc has better conditions and is more talented, Rakitic is hard-work. Even, Rakitic this year for me, not was a creative player, he was more a physic man, almost like a B2B. The point is that Rakitic has a fucking little man playing in his team that builds game better that any pure creative midfielder, so, he don't have the responsobility to be the "Creative man" like Cesc here. But Rakitic to be the "Creative man" like Cesc, is 100 ways worst.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The way Barca play now, Cesc would have been a perfect fit for them.

They play intensive high pressing, lot of work and running. One of major weaknesess of Cesc who isnt mobile much.

In everything else, yes he would suit them like a glove.

[dmode 113]

They play intensive high pressing, lot of work and running. One of major weaknesess of Cesc who isnt mobile much.

In everything else, yes he would suit them like a glove.

Cesc came to Chelsea, turned things around, and won the PL. Rakitic would never have that kind of influence in any other team than Barca or Real. He is playing behind Messi in God form and Neymar, Suarez. His main job is not to fuck up. He doesn't need to do anything special, but pass the ball to Messi or Iniesta. Cesc is 100 times more important to Chelsea and most other teams. Creativity, assists and goals wins you games.

[didierforever 7,349]

its like people have forgotten who we bought cesc from!!!!

[BlueLion. 21,491]

its like people have forgotten who we bought cesc from!!!!

But Cesc is an Arsenal player who went and played for Barcelona. He has Arsenal footballing DNA, not Barcelona footballing DNA. Regardless of the years he spent there as a kid.

[didierforever 7,349]

But Cesc is an Arsenal player who went and played for Barcelona. He has Arsenal footballing DNA, not Barcelona footballing DNA. Regardless of the years he spent there as a kid.

dont exactly know how that helps in the rakitic vs cesc debate.

the way people are shooting down rakitic's acheivements this season simply cos "he has messi and iniesta" playing with him while not taking into consideration the fact that barca were actually the best team in the world when cesc went there and heads and shoulders above any of the other.team on the planet. last year barca went trophyless and this season they won the treble. now i am not saying that only cesc was responsible for barca's downfall or that only rakitic is responsible for barca's brilliant season, but it does have some relationship. rakitic has been awesome for barca while cesc never looked comfortable.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Cesc Fàbregas

30 mins ·

A year ago today

[Special Juan 28,133]

Scored 1 and made 1....Well done son.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

dont exactly know how that helps in the rakitic vs cesc debate.

the way people are shooting down rakitic's acheivements this season simply cos "he has messi and iniesta" playing with him while not taking into consideration the fact that barca were actually the best team in the world when cesc went there and heads and shoulders above any of the other.team on the planet. last year barca went trophyless and this season they won the treble. now i am not saying that only cesc was responsible for barca's downfall or that only rakitic is responsible for barca's brilliant season, but it does have some relationship. rakitic has been awesome for barca while cesc never looked comfortable.

I'm making a point in reference to your own. "People are forgetting who we bought Fabregas from". Yes, Barcelona. But he was never really a Barcelona player. He's a guy with Premier League footballing DNA. No wonder why he's had such an incredible impact for us and made next to none over in Spain. It would be like taking another excellent Premier League midfielder in Lampard or Gerrard and expecting either of them to adapt to tika-taka after years of Premier League football. It wouldn't work.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

They play intensive high pressing, lot of work and running. One of major weaknesess of Cesc who isnt mobile much.

In everything else, yes he would suit them like a glove.

you obviously havent watched Barca play much this season.

[DYC. 7,542]

dont exactly know how that helps in the rakitic vs cesc debate.

the way people are shooting down rakitic's acheivements this season simply cos "he has messi and iniesta" playing with him while not taking into consideration the fact that barca were actually the best team in the world when cesc went there and heads and shoulders above any of the other.team on the planet. last year barca went trophyless and this season they won the treble. now i am not saying that only cesc was responsible for barca's downfall or that only rakitic is responsible for barca's brilliant season, but it does have some relationship. rakitic has been awesome for barca while cesc never looked comfortable.

You're on a Chelsea forum, Cesc is always winning this.

Agree with Alex. It's the same for Spain. He probably won't be a starter at EURO 2016, and I'm not mad at that.

Rakitic is not a Barca midfielder either, but he was capable and willing to adapt to Barca and sacrifice his individual game for the sake of the team. Rakitic was the creative man at Sevilla so he's proven to be versatile.