Cesc Fàbregas

[The Skipper 20,609]

The same Arsenal team that was constantly overrun in the midfield? No thanks.

It'd be so different here because he's next to Matic who is far more conservative than Song, plus Mourinho isn't as reckless as Wenger when it comes to midfield selection either.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Too slow to play next to matic. We need a mobile all round player there

[The Skipper 20,609]

Too slow to play next to matic. We need a mobile all round player there

Kroos, Rakitic etc. aren't exactly known for their speed either.

I think a Fabregas - Matic midfield would be identical to the Schweinsteiger - Martinez midfield Bayern had in 12/13.

[lucio 5,418]

Kroos, Rakitic etc. aren't exactly known for their speed either.

I think a Fabregas - Matic midfield would be identical to the Schweinsteiger - Martinez midfield Bayern had in 12/13.

i think cesc hates our manager though

[The Skipper 20,609]

i think cesc hates our manager though

And probably vice versa lol. I'm not saying there isn't bad blood between CFC, Mou and Fabregas, just merely stating that he would fit in here very well based on his abilities as a footballer.

[bushman 2,043]

i think cesc hates our manager though

Who doesn´t?

[The only place to be 11,313]

Too slow to play next to matic. We need a mobile all round player there

I agree that's the type of profile Jose seems to want there. Athletic players who can contribute at both ends like Matic or Modric.

Fabregas has always seemed a bit powderpuff to me, closer to someone like De Bruyne. More chance of us going for Song than Fabregas in my opinion.

[lucio 5,418]

Who doesn´t?

most non barca/liverpool players probably.

[bushman 2,043]

most non barca/liverpool players probably.

Some say, Jose is the most popular manager around, not anymore?

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Kroos, Rakitic etc. aren't exactly known for their speed either.

I think a Fabregas - Matic midfield would be identical to the Schweinsteiger - Martinez midfield Bayern had in 12/13.

But, martinez is a little faster than matic so the bayern midfield was okay.

If matic had essien's speed I'll have no problem with fabregas there. But I don't think its good to have that slow a pivot, risky.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

Kroos, Rakitic etc. aren't exactly known for their speed either.

I think a Fabregas - Matic midfield would be identical to the Schweinsteiger - Martinez midfield Bayern had in 12/13.

I think you're overestimating the potential midfield of Fibreglass and Matic.

[The Skipper 20,609]

But, martinez is a little faster than matic so the bayern midfield was okay.

If matic had essien's speed I'll have no problem with fabregas there. But I don't think its good to have that slow a pivot, risky.

In the same way, Fabregas is also slightly faster than Schweini - so you could say that counteracts that.

Besides - if we need speed in midfield (in the bigger games) we could always just hypothetically field a midfield three of Fabregas, Ramires and Matic, which is a very balanced three.

I don't think we'd necessarily need speed in midfield against the sides that sit deep against us - which is where a player in the ilk of Fabregas could become very useful if you get what I mean.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I think you're overestimating the potential midfield of Fibreglass and Matic.

I can understand why anyone would say that, but I personally just think Fabregas is a very fine CM and could easily be in the same class as the Toures, Vidals and Iniestas of this world if used properly but then again, I just really rate Fab as a player and I can perfectly understand why others don't.

[didierforever 7,349]

are we talking about the same fiberglass that has been hopelessly average in la liga against deep defences with a striker like messi?

[The Skipper 20,609]

are we talking about the same fiberglass that has been hopelessly average in la liga against deep defences with a striker like messi?

Yes, the same Fabregas that was probably up there as the best midfielder in the PL alongside players like Lamps when he was at Arsenal.

As I've said before, I strongly believe Barcelona aren't using him correctly at all and that the system over there strongly prohibits his performances but still, you obviously just have a very big dislike for him so there's no point in discussing his abilities with you.