11Drogba 2,000 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 you get to know exactly how shit the player has been by the kind of excuses and arguments people put in his favour. remember when people used to say that torres runs a lot?It is an important stat for players in double pivot and fullbacks imo. You need dynamic, mobile players in those positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 It is an important stat for players in double pivot and fullbacks imo. You need dynamic, mobile players in those positions.he played 60mins as a CAM against porto if i am not wrong.and even then, i would say, its not. tackles won, aerial duels won, chances created, interceptions made, are far far far more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 he played 60mins as a CAM against porto if i am not wrong.and even then, i would say, its not. tackles won, aerial duels won, chances created, interceptions made, are far far far more important.I don't think Torres example is relevant. You can't do those things only by positioning yourself at the right spot if you are playing in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I don't think Torres example is relevant. You can't do those things only by positioning yourself at the right spot if you are playing in midfield.cesc's "ground covering" and "workrate" is exactly like torres' "workrate".cesc is a defensive liability. always has been, always will be. his "running/jogging around" does not help the team in any way yuvala and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 cesc's "ground covering" and "workrate" is exactly like torres' "workrate".cesc is a defensive liability. always has been, always will be. his "running/jogging around" does not help the team in any wayHe becomes a bigger liability when he runs less. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Well, it's clear that we have different expectations about effort. A player may cover more distance than his teammates but what's the point in that if that person doesn't do anything else to make the running count? Any Tom, Dick and Harry can just run around on the pitch. This is just like how people used to praise Torres for looking sharp, moving himself about etc even though he ultimately contributed nothing in matches.I wasn't praising him per say. Again, I didn't say he was good or effective. I said he put in the effort. 'Effort' doesn't take football skills. I don't know how else you can define it as it literally means to work hard. Im surprised people still throw that shit out. He is lazy and joggs for 90min. Thats how he gets 11km. With slow jogging whole game. He doesnt sprint, doesnt chase oppoonent when he loses the ball, anyone gets easily past him and all he does is jogging. He cant mark opponents because they sprint and he doesnt. He moves twice slower than anyone else.But he got 11km. He is in fit shape for grannies marathon. Great.HOW do you cover 11.4 K m while being lazy? Literally to cover 11.4Km during 90 minutes means his average speed was 2.11 meters per second; that's without taking into consideration the time he is not running during the match. And you're seriously suggesting that he covered all that just by jogging??!!! And not just suggesting, but declaring in any incredibly shitty condescending and provocative attitude. But I guess after all ignorance is a prerequisite for such condescension. DYC. and LDN Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Should be absolutely ashamed of himself for the Southampton equaliser, just wandering around the field minding his own business while Ramires races round the pitch doing the work for two. Fuck sake. Sir Mikel OBE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Should be absolutely ashamed of himself for the Southampton equaliser, just wandering around the field minding his own business while Ramires races round the pitch doing the work for two. Fuck sake. Thats the most disappointing thing about him. They got on top of us mostly because they figure if they pass around him he can't get in position to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 get him out of the team please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 i thought he "controlled the mid today" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 can't create and can't defend. Barcelona have been vindicated didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 can't create and can't defend. Barcelona have been vindicatedstop scapegoating... did not u get the memo.. he is "irreplacable" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue.Llama 7 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He came last season to get the medal, he got it now he is donewalking on the pitch crossing it right to the keeper a ghost!he is a gunner he will never play for the badge, just here to collect his wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Simply ridiculous that he didn't get subbed off today, particularly given the way that Mourinho chose to humiliate Matic. King11Didier and Blue_Fox_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 what sucks is that he is 50% of the reason that jose will lose his job. someday i hope jose clarifies why we bought this fucking cuntish assholic loser instead of someone like rakitic!!!fucking hopeless piece of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He is anti footballer. He will end at stoke or worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He needs to get sold in January imo. We need a more energetic midfield. I hope we can get Isco to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 what sucks is that he is 50% of the reason that jose will lose his job. someday i hope jose clarifies why we bought this fucking cuntish assholic loser instead of someone like rakitic!!!fucking hopeless piece of shitYeah it's not like he contributed with 15 or so assists last season to help us get the EPL kc_blue and LDN Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Yeah it's not like he contributed with 15 or so assists last season to help us get the EPL Didn't you hear? Last season never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Think he's lost his magic hat TheIceMan and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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